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Got mine Saturday and I love it. I paid $435.00 out the door.
I am impressed with it and find the recoil with 1325fps 00 Fiocchi buck quite manageable. I bought 100 round box of Federal 3dram game loads and ran 50 rounds of those through it. They actually felt stouter than the buckshot loads.
We set up a metal realtor sign at about 15 yards and by the time we were done we were placing most of the shot in the center.
I have done a LOT of shotgun shooting and one thing I figured out long ago is there is a tendency to shoot high hip shooting with a gun like this. My SIL was knocking **** put of the trees about 20 feet over the target.
At the short range we were shooting the wad is a good indication as to where the shot column is going. Much past that range, or if there is a heavy breeze it is not as good and indicator. I was running 6 through it as fast as I could stroke it and was bouncing the wad off the sign pretty consistently.
We took the wife's Toyota to the LGS so I got to play with it on the way home. I was pretty impressed with being able to maneuver it in that small car. I drive a bigger car or a truck and wouldn't have any problem in those vehicles.
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The guys who have shot them with sling attachment points between the grip and the receiver all say that eventually you're going to hit your hand against it.
I hear you can just thread a sling swivel into the end of the birds head grip. Not as strong but a lot safer for your hands. I'm going to try that when I get my Shockwave.
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Just picked up a Shockwave on Sat, and will be putting it through it's paces very soon.
I'll be going with the "eye level" sight picture, as hip shooting just seems a bad idea to me.
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Will it fit the Mossberg or only the Remington 870? You probably understand the purpose of the strap is to prevent your support hand from accidentally getting in front of the muzzle. I assume the product you linked to serves the same purpose? I understand there are versions of the 870 available in a configuration similar to the Shockwave but more expensive.
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AFAIK, it will only fit the Remington 870 and that is what I have. Like you said, I understand the purpose of the forend strap and have one sitting here on my desk that I haven't installed. I thought that this handguard might be used in lieu of the strap and serve the same purpose. I thought maybe with the handguard plate there would be less to get in the way when bringing my Gatekeeper II into action, while under extreme stress.
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Jay, Where did you get yours, I can't find one anywhere, sure are VERY popular.
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Just picked up a Shockwave on Sat, and will be putting it through it's paces very soon.
I'll be going with the "eye level" sight picture, as hip shooting just seems a bad idea to me.
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I think you have the right idea. I sent photos of my Gatekeeper II to a buddy and asked him a few questions. BTW, my buddy served for many years at the Firearms Training Branch of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. Here is one quote: "The USMS made a bunch of "WITSEC" shotguns just like yours and at 15 yards with a class of 24 in service students firing 5 rounds each, not one target was hit!! We could see that all were firing over the top of the targets."
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Jay, Where did you get yours, I can't find one anywhere, sure are VERY popular.
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If you're addressing me, I found it in a small gun shop in central NC.
I called around to many stores; one store had gotten one in the day before which was promised to a customer, but apparently he changed his mind so I bought it.
Some stores will put you on a "list" for when they get some delivered.
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I picked mine up today and like it.
Installed the OPsol Mini-Clip and it doesn't feed the mini-shells reliably so I'll just go 5 in the mag tube and 1 chambered.
Should be enough to do the job.
If you need a good laugh look at the big auction site. Unreal bidding going on for Shockwaves.
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Got to the range today.
Took slugs, buckshot, dove loads, and heavy #6 shells.
The gun is very manageable, but can be a real handful when shooting full power OO buck and slugs. I suggest wearing a glove on the offhand as the recoil causes the fore end to grate on that hand severely under heavy recoil with slugs and buckshot.
No handling problems shooting “from the hip” and with slugs/buckshot it was easy to hold the gun at eye level and use the front bead sight.
I also took some Aguila Mini-Shells in their buckshot load, which has seven #4 buck pellets and four O buck pellets.
I didn’t pattern the shot loads, but below are the Aguila Mini shotshells at 5 and 10 yards.
From some videos I’d seen I expected a wider pellet spread, but was pleased with the results.
From 5 yards I got a spread approximately 3.5” x 3.5”, and from 10 yards it was 6” x 6”; certainly adequate to put all pellets in a torso size target up to 10 yards.
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Just picked up a Shockwave on Sat, and will be putting it through it's paces very soon.
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I have simulated a variety of "eye level" sight picture firings, and I have yet to find one that I don't think will result in a butt stock to the eye. Let me know . . .
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Installed the OPsol Mini-Clip and it doesn't feed the mini-shells reliably so I'll just go 5 in the mag tube and 1 chambered.
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I used the OPSol clip and it shot/cycled 10 minishells flawlessly.
Maybe you weren't holding your mouth right....
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Got to the range today.
Took slugs, buckshot, dove loads, and heavy #6 shells.
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Got to the range today.
Took slugs, buckshot, dove loads, and heavy #6 shells.
The gun is very manageable, but can be a real handful when shooting full power OO buck and slugs. I suggest wearing a glove on the offhand as the recoil causes the fore end to grate on that hand severely under heavy recoil with slugs and buckshot.
No handling problems shooting “from the hip” and with slugs/buckshot it was easy to hold the gun at eye level and use the front bead sight.
I also took some Aguila Mini-Shells in their buckshot load, which has seven #4 buck pellets and four O buck pellets.
I didn’t pattern the shot loads, but below are the Aguila Mini shotshells at 5 and 10 yards.
From some videos I’d seen I expected a wider pellet spread, but was pleased with the results.
From 5 yards I got a spread approximately 3.5” x 3.5”, and from 10 yards it was 6” x 6”; certainly adequate to put all pellets in a torso size target up to 10 yards.
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Did you shoot any 00 buck and/ or slugs while holding the gun extended, at eye level, using the bead sight?
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Wow... I am glad I shoot first and read posts later. We're all over the place here on what should work and what should not!
This is what worked for me.... tell me I'm cool, or tell me I'm an idiot... it won't make any difference.
Paid $399.
So far about 250 rounds of 4 buck, 00 buck, a few slugs and an initial handful of 6 shot. No issues. It has loosened up quite a bit. It was typically a little stiff at first.
The front bead works great for me beyond contact distance.
Hip shot.... 2 reasons... my target is close enough to grab it, or for longer targets, I want to look cool to the guys on the range. I don't play for that team. I do practice hip shots some for the first reason, but even across a room a slight extension makes good hits easier for me.
We ran it some from inside a car at ambush distance. Really shines on this although it WILL get your attention no matter which end of it you are on.
I put a QD stud on the grip and a simple sling. I did color coordinate the sling with my uniform. :-) This is all about fashion right?
Call me cheap but I like velcro on side saddles. Less expensive, easy to change out between buck/slugs/combo and use across multiple guns. I have it on my patrol 12, my home 12, and now this one. I never shoot more that one shotgun at a time, so having a carrier of each is all I really need. Never had an issue with them. One more sheet of velcro on this one and it was good to go.
The only real complaint I have is that the grip is a little slick. I am thinking baseball bat grip tape at the moment. I have used that before on other things and it worked well.
I did post another thread here of a case that fits it well and does not scream COOL TACTICAL DUDE HERE!
I am hoping to get approval to use as an entry gun. Even if that doesn't fly it will be my truck gun.
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Wow... I am glad I shoot first and read posts later. We're all over the place here on what should work and what should not!
This is what worked for me.... tell me I'm cool, or tell me I'm an idiot... it won't make any difference.
Paid $399.
So far about 250 rounds of 4 buck, 00 buck, a few slugs and an initial handful of 6 shot. No issues. It has loosened up quite a bit. It was typically a little stiff at first.
The front bead works great for me beyond contact distance.
Hip shot.... 2 reasons... my target is close enough to grab it, or for longer targets, I want to look cool to the guys on the range. I don't play for that team. I do practice hip shots some for the first reason, but even across a room a slight extension makes good hits easier for me.
We ran it some from inside a car at ambush distance. Really shines on this although it WILL get your attention no matter which end of it you are on.
I put a QD stud on the grip and a simple sling. I did color coordinate the sling with my uniform. :-) This is all about fashion right?
Call me cheap but I like velcro on side saddles. Less expensive, easy to change out between buck/slugs/combo and use across multiple guns. I have it on my patrol 12, my home 12, and now this one. I never shoot more that one shotgun at a time, so having a carrier of each is all I really need. Never had an issue with them. One more sheet of velcro on this one and it was good to go.
The only real complaint I have is that the grip is a little slick. I am thinking baseball bat grip tape at the moment. I have used that before on other things and it worked well.
I did post another thread here of a case that fits it well and does not scream COOL TACTICAL DUDE HERE!
I am hoping to get approval to use as an entry gun. Even if that doesn't fly it will be my truck gun.
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98% 2.75. I did run a couple of tubes of 3" and a couple of mixed 2.75 and 3 to check function.
No mini's. Sorry.
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I'm sticking with 2-3/4" 00 buck. The OPsol adapter I bought did not preform 100% with mini shells.
Don't want to have a mini shell jam if I need to use the shockwave in the future.
The firearm was designed for 2-3/4 and I plan to keep it that way.
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Ok so I have about 300 rounds through mine now, mostly heavy target with a few slugs and different buckshot rounds mixed in.
A few observations so far.
As I stated previously when hip shooting the tendency is to shoot high. I have that pretty much mastered.
The grip needs modified somehow. When shooting long strings and heavy loads the grip slides through my hand and the safety rubs a whole in the web between thumb and forefinger. I am thinking a "bump" on top behind the safety would work, or finger grooves, or both. I am not afraid to experiment so I think I will get some glass bedding jell and do the aforementioned modifications.
I have mostly shot it from the hip, but I was playing with sighting down the barrel last night and found I was comfortable doing it with a "gangsta cant". Other words I turned it on its side slightly and got good effects without worrying about taking one in the teeth. Target was a 16oz beer can at about 15 yards and I was 5 for 5.
The little mother scooter is LOUD with slugs.
The heavy targets kick more than the 00 buck I have put through it.
I have had no issues with the for end other than I have forgotten to put my hand through the strap a couple of times. I still have all my fingers though.
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Yes, I shot about 20-25 of each at eye level and the recoil is pretty stiff with those loads. I did not shoot them on a target for "pattern."
Didn't even come close to bashing me in the nose.
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I removed the grip from my Gatekeeper II and pulled on a piece of bicycle inner tube. I haven't taken the gun out for a dance yet (maybe tomorrow) but it seems to make the grip a little less slippery.
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I was looking for something just like you suggested BE Mike. Ingenious.
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Got to the range today.
Took slugs, buckshot, dove loads, and heavy #6 shells.
The gun is very manageable, but can be a real handful when shooting full power OO buck and slugs. I suggest wearing a glove on the offhand as the recoil causes the fore end to grate on that hand severely under heavy recoil with slugs and buckshot.
No handling problems shooting “from the hip” and with slugs/buckshot it was easy to hold the gun at eye level and use the front bead sight.
I also took some Aguila Mini-Shells in their buckshot load, which has seven #4 buck pellets and four O buck pellets.
I didn’t pattern the shot loads, but below are the Aguila Mini shotshells at 5 and 10 yards.
From some videos I’d seen I expected a wider pellet spread, but was pleased with the results.
From 5 yards I got a spread approximately 3.5” x 3.5”, and from 10 yards it was 6” x 6”; certainly adequate to put all pellets in a torso size target up to 10 yards.
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As reported several weeks ago, with 3 on board here, we get results of 3 guns and many different shot loads.
These guns defy what we thought we knew about shotgun patterning. They regularly shoot tighter patterns than our 12 inch and 18 inch guns. Crazy???
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Aloha,
Does anyone think it will be produced in 20 ga?
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Only speculation, but given the high demand for the 12 gage, I would not expect to see a 20 in the near future.
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I removed the grip from my Gatekeeper II and pulled on a piece of bicycle inner tube. I haven't taken the gun out for a dance yet (maybe tomorrow) but it seems to make the grip a little less slippery.
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Bike tube.....that thought crossed my mind as well. Can you tell me what size the tube was that you started with?
Thanks in advance.
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Bike tube.....that thought crossed my mind as well. Can you tell me what size the tube was that you started with?
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I really don't remember exactly. I think it was 1.25", but it might have been 1.5". I picked up a couple of bicycle inner tubes of various widths from the local bike shop. Of course they were punctured and going to be tossed anyway. I called the shop up beforehand and asked them to hold a few different sized ones for me and they did. There are a few uses for old inner tubes. BTW, someone suggested using alcohol as a lubricant to slide the piece of inner tube over the grip. I just kept working it on and tugged and tugged. Someone else suggested removing the white powder before sliding it on. They both might be good suggestions, but they came too late for me.
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Thank ya sir. I will give this a try if the ball bat tape doesn't work out.
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You guys are just awful... here I was, minding my business and saying 'I don't need another gun' to myself but after reading this thread, I just placed an order for a Shockwave. Looks like it will be a BLAST!
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Here's my Mossberg Shockwave.
Awesome shotgun.
Only problem I found is the grips/forend is to slick.
So I stippled mine. Gave it a much better grip.
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Nice!
I've never been a fan of most (not all) of the stippling jobs I have seen on pistols, but that is pretty subtle in appearance. At first I didn't even notice it had been done. If it is effective I could go for a treatment like that.
Assuming you did this with a soldering iron... what tip did you use?
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I bought this Shockwave a few weeks ago and was surprised at the recoil flip. I'm usually not recoil conscious, but come on, It's a sawed off 12 gauge.
I took my barrel to Magnaport and had it ported. I just picked it up today and shot it, expecting an improvement. I was pleasantly surprised at how little the recoil was, even with Magnum 00 Buck.
As I get older, the arthritis in my hand has had a negative effect on my grip. The Magnaporting is a God send.
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I bought this Shockwave a few weeks ago and was surprised at the recoil flip. I'm usually not recoil conscious, but come on, It's a sawed off 12 gauge.
I took my barrel to Magnaport and had it ported. I just picked it up today and shot it, expecting an improvement. I was pleasantly surprised at how little the recoil was, even with Magnum 00 Buck.
As I get older, the arthritis in my hand has had a negative effect on my grip. The Magnaporting is a God send.
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That sure looks nice. How much does Magnaport get for a job like that? Did they have to refinish the barrel? A very functional update to your Shockwave. Thanks for sharing.
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I may buy the Remington model when it comes out. I do not like the strap, nor do I like the location of the safety. I am a lifetime Remington owner. Nothing wrong with Mossberg, they make fine shotguns. I had two, sold them over the safety location.
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I was going to wait for an 870 since I carried one in my scout car since 1985, but I talked with several of my friends who own gun shops and they told me that the quality of Remington's have gone down since they became part of the Freedom group.
Magnaport did not have to refinish the barrel to port it.
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Found a Shockwave in an LGS today. It will cost me a few more bucks, but I'll be supporting a local outfit and the two fire fighters that own it. Fire fighters were always there for me and I'll be there for them. They're part of the brotherhood. Plus my niece married one. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
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I may buy the Remington model when it comes out. I do not like the strap, nor do I like the location of the safety. I am a lifetime Remington owner. Nothing wrong with Mossberg, they make fine shotguns. I had two, sold them over the safety location.
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It's all about what you get used to. I'm a Mossberg guy because I'm a lefty, although I've worked out manipulating a right handed Remington. Given the choice, I'll take the Mossberg dual extractors any time . . .
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It's all about what you get used to. I'm a Mossberg guy because I'm a lefty, although I've worked out manipulating a right handed Remington. Given the choice, I'll take the Mossberg dual extractors any time . . .
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What's lefty about a Mossy? I thought they were pretty much the same
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Picked up a mossy SW today but due to time constraints, was only able to run 3 rds. high-brass #8's, one #4 and one 00. Bucked a little but never felt a thing to my shoulder.
Seriously though, it wasn't too bad but it is a short barrel 12 gauge with no shoulder stock.
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What's lefty about a Mossy? I thought they were pretty much the same
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I don't know for sure. My old 870 had a push button safety on the trigger guard. Push to the left for off safe. The Mossbergs have the safety on the tang so easy to manipulate for right or left handers.
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I was going to wait for an 870 since I carried one in my scout car since 1985, but I talked with several of my friends who own gun shops and they told me that the quality of Remington's have gone down since they became part of the Freedom group.
Magnaport did not have to refinish the barrel to port it.
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I've owned a couple of Remington 870's over the years and carried and qualified quarterly with them. The quality of my Gatekeeper II compares to the older 870's. Of course there is plastic, but so are some of my handguns and they hold up just fine.
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I bought this Shockwave a few weeks ago and was surprised at the recoil flip. I'm usually not recoil conscious, but come on, It's a sawed off 12 gauge.
I took my barrel to Magnaport and had it ported. I just picked it up today and shot it, expecting an improvement. I was pleasantly surprised at how little the recoil was, even with Magnum 00 Buck.
As I get older, the arthritis in my hand has had a negative effect on my grip. The Magnaporting is a God send.
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That looks like a good solution. I bought some mini buck rounds from Nobel Sport. If they pattern well and reduce recoil to an easily manageable level, I'll probably forgo the Magnaporting, but if not, I may send my barrel off.
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What's lefty about a Mossy? I thought they were pretty much the same
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Like somebody else said, safety on the tang. Crossbolts move the wrong way for lefties to work without moving around a lot . . .
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Like somebody else said, safety on the tang. Crossbolts move the wrong way for lefties to work without moving around a lot . . .
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Gotcha. I'm a lefty but I'm so used to not having lefty friendly guns that I don't even pay attention anymore. Adapt and overcome!
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Gotcha. I'm a lefty but I'm so used to not having lefty friendly guns that I don't even pay attention anymore. Adapt and overcome!
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I agree, but it's nice when things work out. My only Remington shotgun is a LH model, as is my only bolt action rifle.
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I agree, but it's nice when things work out. My only Remington shotgun is a LH model, as is my only bolt action rifle.
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I have many surplus bolt rifles that I can use ok my one true rifle is a Ruger M77 3006 left hand.
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