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07-18-2018, 08:14 PM
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Here is a P7 that you don't see every day. It is the P7K3 which is a 380 with conversion barrels to 32 ACP and 22 LR. Fairly rare in the USA.
Here it is shown along side of a P7M8
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Wow. I never knew there is a P7K3. NICE !!! Does it come as the kit with all conversion barrels and slides or are the conversion parts separate purchases ?
Again, WOW ! very nice. (and I don't like .380s but I'll make an exception here).
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I've held and shot a P7 "squeeze cocker". They are excellent carry guns! But I couldn't help but notice lately what these guns go for used and unless you got the deal of the century, I'm guessing for what you paid for these guns you could have gone out & bought a somewhat decent used car.
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07-18-2018, 08:54 PM
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I've held and shot a P7 "squeeze cocker". They are excellent carry guns! But I couldn't help but notice lately what these guns go for used and unless you got the deal of the century, I'm guessing for what you paid for these guns you could have gone out & bought a somewhat decent used car.
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Well, I thought I did ok (but probably overpaid), but for the 4 shown ( 2 - P7's, a P7M8, and the High Power) I paid $5400, so yes, I guess I could have bought a decent used vehicle.
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07-18-2018, 08:59 PM
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The P7M8 is a really neat piece. I have shot them quite a bit over the years and found them to be an interesting weapon. Guys that like P7M8s tend to really be aficionados. I guess that makes sense, due to its' unique manual of arms.
That P7M8 with the nickel finish is a fairly rare bird. That would be worth picking up.
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Trust me, I would have liked to!
But after what I paid for these 4 (and the other P7 I haven't picked up yet), I couldn't afford the $3500 they wanted for it.
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07-19-2018, 02:21 PM
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Wow. I never knew there is a P7K3. NICE !!! Does it come as the kit with all conversion barrels and slides or are the conversion parts separate purchases ?
Again, WOW ! very nice. (and I don't like .380s but I'll make an exception here).
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I bought them from a Collector at one time. The 380 was in one box complete with magazines. The 32 barrel and magazines along with the 22 barrel, 22 slide, and mags were in a different box and unfired.
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07-19-2018, 05:11 PM
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Recently an ex army guy now working in security told me he took a course, working in tandem. The guy behind him had a P7, and kept squeezing and releasing the cocking grip. That clicking noise in his back made him extremely nervous
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That issue actually came up repeatedly over the years in German police discussions about the suitability of the P7.
Not so much because the clicking noise made anyone nervous, but because during situations like extended building searches it gave the positions of the officers away. Some police trainers pointed out that in low-noise situations, like a warehouse at night, you could almost map the officers' progress just listening for the clicking.
It is said (I have no first-hand knowledge) that this was one of the reasons why the GSG-9, which had adopted the P7 in the mid-80s, ditched it in the early 90s for the Glock 17. The lack of an accessory rail was another; Bavarian SWAT came up with an adventurous solution attaching a light to the magazine bottom. I guess you had to hope any gunfight at night was over before reloading became necessary
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07-19-2018, 07:33 PM
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Add to the above "clicking" argument, that the P7 or M8 only held 8 rounds, it's quite heavy, and it quickly heats up like a chimney, and I agree, it's probably not the tactical weapon of choice nowadays. But having said that .....
..... it sure is a blast killing paper at the range! I used to own 14 of these things, yes, quite a fanboy, when they were easy to pick up for $400 to $600. But my hand just wasn't big enough for the extra width of the M13s so those were the first to go. The incredible price jumps of the M8s prompted me to sell those next.
That left me with 3 original regular P7s - one to shoot at the range, while the other two cool down!
You're going to love your new P7s! But if you don't, you know where to find me. Congrats again.
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07-20-2018, 10:25 PM
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Regarding the P-7,
Why?
The loud " CLACK-CLACK " of the grip safety engaging and dis-engaging, and the way the gun's frame gets pretty hot to handle during rapid-fire drills have always been big turn-offs for me.
And have you priced extra magazines?
But unto each his own.
We don't alway have to be practical.
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07-22-2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothshooter
Regarding the P-7,
Why?
The loud " CLACK-CLACK " of the grip safety engaging and dis-engaging, and the way the gun's frame gets pretty hot to handle during rapid-fire drills have always been big turn-offs for me.
And have you priced extra magazines?
But unto each his own.
We don't alway have to be practical.
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Thanks for commenting!
Yep, I know the price of extra mags!
As to being practical, I've always wanted a P7/P7M8, and when these presented themselves I couldn't pass them up.
I am pretty well off with pistols and revolvers (I have plenty more of both then I could ever NEED, but what I WANT is a totally different story! ).
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I have to agree on the manual of arms statement.
A friend of mine just loves his and is always bragging that the P7 is the safest pistol made.
I have always felt that in the heat of a tense moment that the trigger could very easily get pulled at an inopportune time as you are "squeeze cocking" to fire.
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Not really; you have to squeeze it completely; you'd have a much easier time doing that with a 1911 or a Glock
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12-10-2018, 11:32 PM
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I own far too many things marked '9mm', but have to say, my P7/PSP is amongst one of my favorites.
Like Lobo/Ray told - I picked mine up at an LGS back when they were coming in for ~$400. I recalled when they were first on the market and completely out of my price range, so that was some of the impetus for getting one.
Did have a time getting a good holster - ordered one from Haugen Handgun Leather, long wait, but good quality.
It's always been very reliable, and as for accuracy - shoots like a rifle.
Can only agree with the takes of it being heavy for a single stack 9mm.
But, there's nothing out there like it either. Makes it interesting to me.
I don't chase bad guys anymore, so hi-cap mags and such don't concern me quite as much.
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Very nice.
I also like the HK P7, I have an M8 and a M13 NIB
And two HP as well
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Very nice classics you've got there.
I've got a few myself...
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