Picked up a Sig P210-2

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Well I wasn’t planning on buying another P210, but a really nice deal came to me at my local shop. I don’t own a P210–2 and these later –2 commercial variants are a bit rare. They were only built for a very short time, as far as I know. Not many were manufactured.

Here's a basic breakdown of its history. The Sig P210 was originally a military pistol. It was introduced in 1947 after being in development for a number of years (delayed by WWII). It was adopted by the Swiss army in 1949, finally replacing the Luger. While it doesn't quite have the service pedigree of, say, the Browning Hi Power, the P210 has a storied past and has been used by a number of countries for various functions over the years. From a quality and accuracy standpoint, the Sig always had the Browning beat by a landslide. The accuracy of the Sig is legendary and the Swiss army routinely used them out to 100 yards. These pistols were basically entirely hand built in Switzerland, starting from slides and frames that are machined from solid carbon steel forgings. All these fine materials and precision craftsmanship made the P210 a very expensive gun to build, which helped lead to its replacement by the P220 in the mid 1970’s.

Once replaced in its service life, the P210 lived on in a sporting role, with the target variants like the P210-6 and P210-5 becoming more popular. Production ended in 2005, primarily due to manufacturing costs. In 2010, Sig reintroduced the P210, as the German P210 Legend. The German models were very high quality and great shooting pistols. The Legend was built for a number of years. Now a more economical version of the P210 is being built at Sig USA. However, I’ll always prefer the old Swiss examples for their incredible old world build quality and durability.

As for the pistol itself, the Sig P210 is basically peerless. To me, the Swiss made Sig P210 ranks as the very finest handgun ever produced. In my carefully thought out opinion, no other automatic pistol ever constructed during any time period has combined the build quality, durability, accuracy, and service pedigree to the degree of this Sig. There are pistols that can match or maybe even exceed it in a one category or another, but when combined, nothing else comes close, as far as I’m concerned. In fact, the only handgun that can come close to matching it in all these criteria is a revolver, the Manurhin MR 73. :)

Changes happened through the years of Swiss P210 development. Forged frames and slides went away in the early to mid 1980’s in favor of being machined from bar stock via CNC. This happened just before the serial numbers switched to the 300xxx series. Due to the incredible precision of the equipment, these CNC P210’s required much less hand fitting than the earlier forged models. The forged models were always my favorites, because I value old world craftsmanship. However, I’ve never seen a reason to think the CNC models weren’t just as refined or as accurate. In fact, I know some folks prefer the CNC made P210’s. To the untrained eye, they look identical.

The P210-2 is basically the old military version, but sold to the public. The originals had black plastic grips and a Swiss Shield in front of the rear sight. It was basically the commercial P210-1 without the polished bluing or wood grips. This example is not one of those early P210-2 models. Instead it’s a later commercial model built just after Sig of Switzerland changed to Swiss Arms Neuhausen (SAN). Swiss Arms built the –2 variant for only a short period of time, possibly just 2002. Just about all Swiss Arms P210’s were built on the CNC Heavy Frame. I believe this short run of –2 models were the only standard frames used by Swiss Arms. I also believe this very short run of –2 variants are the only examples actually stamped as such. The original –2 models were not. I have attached a 2003 catalog of Swiss Arms, which does not include the –2. My thinking is that they saw no reason to continue producing it and instead just stuck with the target models. The uniqueness of it, coupled with the price is why I added it to my collection. I highly doubt more than a few hundred were made. It’s the first one I’ve ever seen. :cool:

This example (serial # P323219) was built in 2002 and remains in great condition. Handling marks are very few and the matte bluing shows no wear whatsoever. I tried by best to show the amazing precision of this pistol, right down to the roll markings. The –2 lacks the target sights that most –6 models have. It also lacks the target trigger and serrations on the front strap. It is good to see that it was built to the specs of the earlier P210-2, other than the plastic grips. Its also complete with the box, manual, and 50 meter test target. Incidentally, the 6-shot group is just 2” at that long distance. Not bad for a milspec model. At $2400 OTD, I did great!

Thanks for reading and please share your thoughts. :)









































Here it is with my others.

Left to right: 1954 P210-1, 1967 P210-6, 1975 P210-6HF, 2002 P210-2, and 2003 P210-6HF




 
Nice catch, and from a LGS?
You have a different class of shops in your area than I do!

If I'm not mistaken, another difference in the Neuhausen and later Swiss Arms P210s is the change from 10 shot to 6 shot 50M groups. Still, that's a great test target!

Glad to see none of yours have the "idiot scratch". Honestly, I can't see how someone can be hamfisted enough to cause that.

Quite a nice collection, and great write-up!

Jim

PS: I'm not a fanboy of the new ones, yet I'm glad they're out there in production. Perhaps they'll spark a renaissance of interest in the Swiss classics!
 
Great purchase, especially at that discounted price! I, too love the real SIG pistols from Neuhausen and just want to add that the P in the serial number indicates a privately owned gun while the A stands for Army-owned.

My closest comparable P210 would be a Swiss Army P49 in the A169xxx range that shows enough finish wear to make me comfortable using the gun as a range toy.
 
Nice catch, and from a LGS?
You have a different class of shops in your area than I do!

If I'm not mistaken, another difference in the Neuhausen and later Swiss Arms P210s is the change from 10 shot to 6 shot 50M groups. Still, that's a great test target!

Glad to see none of yours have the "idiot scratch". Honestly, I can't see how someone can be hamfisted enough to cause that.

Quite a nice collection, and great write-up!

Jim

PS: I'm not a fanboy of the new ones, yet I'm glad they're out there in production. Perhaps they'll spark a renaissance of interest in the Swiss classics!

Thanks Jim

I had a P210 years ago that had the idiot scratch when I bought it. I never understood it either.

No, I'm not a fan of the American P210A. Having said that, they are accurate shooting pistols, just not a P210, as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, the earlier models came with 10-shot test targets. My finest P210 is the 1967 -6 model. Its actually one of the custom kits Sig sold back then. Came with the matching 30 Luger barrel and the entire rimfire upper assembly (from the P210-7 line). Its got the very rare factory full checkered grips that I believe were only included in these package deals.

At any rate, its quite a gem. I never shot it, because I believe its unfired outside the factory. You can see the test targets, one being 22LR.


















My most valuable is the Heavy Frame from 1975. While the later CNC Heavy Frames are relatively easy to find, the forged Heavy Frames of the mid 1970's are a true unicorn. Only a couple hundred were made, with the vast majority being in Europe. God knows how many are still even around 40+ years later, but here's one of them in all its glory! :cool:












 
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Great purchase, especially at that discounted price! I, too love the real SIG pistols from Neuhausen and just want to add that the P in the serial number indicates a privately owned gun while the A stands for Army-owned.

My closest comparable P210 would be a Swiss Army P49 in the A169xxx range that shows enough finish wear to make me comfortable using the gun as a range toy.
Very true Andy

Yeah I shoot my 2003 -6 and the 1954 -1. Now I have another to shoot. I don't shoot the two pictured above, but I really have no reason to.
 
My gripes with the P210 in general is being a bit too big and impractical for CCW and a bit too expensive for a shooter. To say they are nice is an understatement. I've generally only seen the modern versions of the last several years.

It likely takes the title of the most finely produced service pistol of all time.

The current versions have become unnecessarily garish and gaudy.
 
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