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...Dayton Ohio Police Armament circa 1930...UPDATE post #17...
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Cool picture. I’d go for the Tommy gun too.
The big V8 car is nice too, anyone knows what it is ?
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Cool picture. I’d go for the Tommy gun too.
The big V8 car is nice too, anyone knows what it is ?
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...pretty sure it's a Cadillac...
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Playground equipment in the back would be considered too dangerous today.
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I wonder what's that neighborhood in the background. Looks like a school, maybe Belmont.
I got a lot of roots in Dayton. Great Grampa was probably an editor at the Dayton Daily News at that time. That was boom town back in the day. A place of great inventions.
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The Cadillac that took down Dillinger story can be found Hemings motor news . Armored car with reinforced bumpers to bust through walls
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Browning A5s?
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...the second one is...
...first one and last one look like Remington Model 8s...
...click on the photo if you haven't...it enlarges...
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I would bet on the shotgun being a Remington Model 11.
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The car is a Cadillac, the emblem is on the hub cap ! 
Like the weaponry, I’ll take a Thompson please and a sweet ride in the Caddy! 
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A 1929 Caddy. Not just any old Cadillac. V8 90 hp (from Cadillac history site)
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Given that Jeff Cooper was only about 10 year old when the picture was taken I think we can forgive him for not having invented the modern technique yet let alone taught it to peace officers in Ohio.
I like the chrome (or is it nickel?) plated armored radiator shutters and tubular bumper. There may be bullet resistant glass on the car too. I'll bet an original caption would make reference to a "flying squad" or other special unit for responding to auto bandits or other organized crime incidents. A Cadillac chassis would have the weight carrying capability to carry six well armed men, the modifications and still have the power to catch a stolen Ford.
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...could be since they seemed to be buying Remington Model 8s...
...the Remington Model 11 and Savage Model 720 were nearly identical to the Auto 5 but lacked the magazine cutoff found on the Browning...
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I like that they gave the motorcycle cop the Thompson. And my dad had one of those model 8 .35s... I never shot it.
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Neat picture.
Was this captioned or documented in any way? I’m always a bit wary of taking these old posed shots at face value. These could all be cops, or for a photo op the Chief could have let each of the city council members hold a gun and told them to look fierce standing next to him and one of his officers ... 
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Neat picture.
Was this captioned or documented in any way? I’m always a bit wary of taking these old posed shots at face value. These could all be cops, or for a photo op the Chief could have let each of the city council members hold a gun and told them to look fierce standing next to him and one of his officers ... |
...UPDATE...I found this extra info on the photo...
..."Quite a ride. In 1930 the Dayton Police Department obtained a Cadillac dubbed the “Bank Flyer.” The vehicle had bullet proof glass, impenetrable tires, customized racks to hold automatic weapons and a reinforced bumper and radiator shield. The car was specialized by the same Cincinnati company that tailor-made two cars for Al Capone and presidential limousines"...
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A 1929 Caddy. Not just any old Cadillac. V8 90 hp (from Cadillac history site)
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It's a 1930 Cadillac not a 1929.
The louvers go to up to the front of the hood. Not so in a 29.
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Don't bet. Could be a Savage 720 riot gun. 
Edit. Got beat on the draw by ParadiseRoad. 
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It's a 1930 Cadillac not a 1929.
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By golly, you may be right! Could have been a V16 engine. Cool. But the ‘30 had 4 large louvers, and this one has thin louvers.
(Hard to know if that wasn’t part of the customization)
1930 V16 Cadillac history
I gotta stick with ‘29 model
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That was the year the dust bowl started, extreme heat and drought. The grass in the back ground isn't looking too happy. It looks like a hot day. I guess that caddy probably didn't have AC.
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Al Capone had his done up by the same bodyshop. His was a 1929 model.
Desperate times called for desperate measures!
The year S&W introduces the Heavy Duty, April 1930
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By golly, you may be right! Could have been a V16 engine. Cool. But the ‘30 had 4 large louvers, and this one has thin louvers.
(Hard to know if that wasn’t part of the customization)
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Not a V16 for sure. in the plaque between the headlights you can clearly see V8(That's how I knew it was a Caddie ).
Edit. Example of a 1930 V8.
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I concede!
You’d look sharp cruising through Lisbon in that ride
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Yeah I would. if I could only afford it.
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