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Looking to purchase one from a club member with a 7” barrel in .38 special. Wondering if these guns hold up over time. Are they accurate or just something that goes bang when the trigger is pulled? At 50 ft indoors, would like a nice group, not a shotgun blast looking group. Kinda like the break action in a big frame. The caliber is great because I load for .38 special currently, it’s the one caliber I shoot the most often. Would use light DEWC ammo in it. The gun has the box and everything it came with new. Has a set of antler grips mounted and the original grips and included. Will buy it Tuesday morning at the retired guys weekly shoot, but need to know about it first. Gimme you’re experience with them. He is at 750.00, it’s priced right. Larry
 
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I have one of them in the .45 Colt chambering. The trigger pull is horrible, breaking at 6 lbs 13 oz with a lot of creep. Others report good triggers out of the box or improvements after removing one of the hammer block components which I have not tried.
 
I just bought a 5” .38 Special Uberti/Cimarron Arms Schofield last week, new, up at Texas Jack’s in Fredericksburg Texas. I have not had the chance to shoot it yet. For $750, that is a great price, if it doesn’t have the hideous billboard markings that some importers used. That is one reason that I went with Cimarron. The trigger pull on mine is very nice.



I hope that it holds up as will as my two Uberti Colt SAA clones hat I have owned since the late 80’s and shot thousands of .45 Colt out of, they have been great guns, I also own two Uberti 73 Winchester clones and a Uberti Henry Clone that I have been very happy with over the years

 
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I have no experience with the .38 Special version, but I have a 5-1/2 inch Schofield in .45 and the Number 3 replica in .44 Russian. If you stick to modern smokeless ammo, the Uberti clones of the Schofield and the Russian are trouble free and pretty nice shooters.

Both shoot about as well as any skinny sighted revolver does for me. Four inch groups, offhand, at 25 yards take no great effort.

The only gripe I have with the Ubertis is the lack of a gas ring. This makes attempting to shoot black powder loaded cartridges an exercise in frustration. My Uberti .44 Russian is marginally better, but no combination of bullet lubes or cylinder pin lubricants has effectively controlled the fouling. Kind of a bummer if you want flame and smoke at the cowboy shoot.

In contrast, an original No. 3 Smith will easily fire a hundred rounds of black powder .44 Russian without getting gritty or binding.
 
I have a 45 colt Cimarron/Uberti Schofield also. The trigger is just OK, only shot it at 15 yards max and it shoots to the left by quite a bit. Biggest problem is the cylinder throats are horribly oversized. .455 lead bullets drop right through. Best I can measure with digital micrometer, all I have, they go .456-.457. Bought some swaged lead Hornady Cowboy bullets and hope they will bump up upon firing to help with the oversized throats.
 
A friend has a Navy Arms/Uberti Schofield in 45 Colt. I don’t know the exact round count, but he’s shot it pretty heavily over several years and it’s held up fine. He’s not shooting “magnum” handloads, just standard factory and handloads though.
 
Thanks so far, kinda excited getting the gun. It looks like a fun alternative to regular revolvers in .38. Really like the look of Glashaus’s 5” but the 7” available to me looks like the original New Model 3 another club member has. If I was to buy one new, it would be the 5”. Need to load some more.38 DEWC’s before Tuesday morning so I can shoot it. It will be the gun of the morning on Tuesday. Hope some more people chime in, so far they seem reliable. I played with it last Tuesday and the trigger is OK, maybe 4 lbs. Larry
 
I have had my 5" for 20 years now. I liked the look of the 5" over the 7" version

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It is chambered in 45 Long Colt

I find it to pleasant to shoot. The trigger is certainly acceptable considering the design era and the accuracy is great

I DO NOT run +P ammunition through it, just old standard 45 Long Colt stuff
 
I found these reproduction No 3 S&W's (Russian, American or Scofield) work and shoot best if your ammo matches what the original S&W was designed for. You don't have to use Black Powder, but use a bullet weight that matches 1870's ammo and load to that velocity. For Russian 44's that's a 246gr at 770ish fps, for 45 Schofield that is 230 gr at about 730 fps. 38 Special didn't exist, so try 38 S&W, 146 LRN at 750 fps.

There was a reason S&W wouldn't make a No 3 variation to fire 45 Colt ammunition; it was the torque of 255 grains at 810 fps! The new guns have better steel, but why mess with success!

May you experience what the cowboys felt shooting at the Indians, and never feel how the Indians felt getting shot by cowboys!

Ivan

I own about 5000 45 Colt brass and 750 Schofield brass and a few 45 US brass (Schofield length/Colt rim) I was amazed my Rossi 92 chambered in 45 Colt will cycle the shorter brass with the larger rim. It allows 2 more rounds in the magazine.
ITB
 
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A number of my SASS friends use them and use them hard with no problems.

The longest owned set I know of are in 44-40 and all he and his wife shoot are full throttle Black Powder loads.

If they are having a problem we would all know about it.....

Randy
 
Get rid of the hammer block. The trigger pull wil be better instantly. I did shot a .45 after about 15000 round complete to pieces.

Accuracy was acording my first price troffees very good. I do love the .38 becouse there is more metal around the forcing cone. The .45 and the .44-40 gonna tear the forcingcone in time. Mine did had a rip of 3mm in the barrel. That is why I bought an other revolver.

A Uberti model 1873. But the Schofield did shoot better and I miss him.
 
Ivan the Butcher said:
... .38 Special didn't exist, so try 38 S&W, 146 LRN at 750 fps...
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The .38 Long Colt did exist and is actually the parent cartridge to the .38 Special. In terms of performance at the time, it was pretty much a wash.

U.S. Army Ordnance Department manual (1893), (p. 241) "The muzzle velocity of this weapon with the Frankford Arsenal cartridge, with 16 grains of powder and 150-grain bullet, is 708.3 feet-seconds"

U.S. Army Ordnance Department (1917), p. 12: "The muzzle velocity of this weapon with the Frankford Arsenal cartridge, with about 3½ grains of smokeless powder and 148-grain bullet, is 750 feet per second."
 
This is a Uberti I bought from a friend - it had come in used at the LGS where I used to work....

.45 Colt, 7" barrel....wish it was the 5". Paid ~$650 IIRC.
Came with these stags, with original wood grips in the box.

Trigger is fine. Accurate with most cowboy-to-standard .45 Colt ammo.
Shoots a little high, but centered. Sights are small and kinda hard to see with the skinny nickeled-silver front blade.

Definitely just a 'fun gun' that I'd never buy new. IMO, the retail price for these new is just over the top of reasonable.

Hope you enjoy yours..
 

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old tanker said:
The .38 Long Colt did exist and is actually the parent cartridge to the .38 Special. In terms of performance at the time, it was pretty much a wash.

U.S. Army Ordnance Department manual (1893), (p. 241) "The muzzle velocity of this weapon with the Frankford Arsenal cartridge, with 16 grains of powder and 150-grain bullet, is 708.3 feet-seconds"

U.S. Army Ordnance Department (1917), p. 12: "The muzzle velocity of this weapon with the Frankford Arsenal cartridge, with about 3½ grains of smokeless powder and 148-grain bullet, is 750 feet per second."
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I was recommending a S&W type load, for a S&W type gun. To some people Colt is a four letter word! :)

Ivan
 
mckenney99 said:
I have a 45 colt Cimarron/Uberti Schofield also. The trigger is just OK, only shot it at 15 yards max and it shoots to the left by quite a bit. Biggest problem is the cylinder throats are horribly oversized. .455 lead bullets drop right through. Best I can measure with digital micrometer, all I have, they go .456-.457. Bought some swaged lead Hornady Cowboy bullets and hope they will bump up upon firing to help with the oversized throats.
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Mckenney99, you might want to contact Uberti and see if they can do anything about your cylinder. Mine measures 0.452" at the throats measured with pin gauges. I bought it new in the box in June of 2016.
I do have some .45 Smith & Wesson brass that I intend on handloading for at some point just for the heck of it. I understand that moderate .45 ACP loading data with 230 grain cast round nose bullets should give good results and fairly close to the original .45 S&W loadings.
 
Very pleased with mine in 45 Colt. Has held up well to a few hundred cowboy loads and 250 gr Keith bullets over 8.0 grains of Unique. Would like to do something about the grips. Maybe refinish these or look at a faux ivory.
 
Have had several of these revolvers over the years, and still have two (2); one 7” and one in 5”. Only faults I found (I don’t shoot black powder) have been inconsistent barrel/cylinder gaps, which run from a good .005 to a less welcome .010. Mine have all been in .45 however.
 
They're extremely cool and I would like to own one, but I lack the disposable income to justify the cost.
 
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