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4:45 p.m. today I am driving through Norcross, GA and decide to stop at a gun shop on Buford Hwy. to attempt to purchase a spare magazine for my recently acquired Glock 36. A guy was locking the door, and told me they were closed. I pointed out he was closing early, according to the posted store hours, and told him I needed a Glock 36 magazine. He walked off, came back and announced they had one for $38.75, about $9.00 higher that other places, but no one had them in stock. I told him I would take it. He said the store was open by appointment only. I pointed out that I lived 32 miles away and couldn't come back on Monday to over-pay for a magazine when he could sell it to me then. "That is not how we do business" was his reply.

The Glock 36 is likely the fourth most disliked Glock, the three .45 GAP guns come ahead of it. That magazine is probably NOS at least twenty years old. It will hang there a while longer I suppose. I won't be going back after it.
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High prices & lousy service. Next the store owner will be whining about not being able to stay in business.
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Just a guess....was this at "David's Gun Room"? If so, I'm not surprised.

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4:45 p.m. today I am driving through Norcross, GA and decide to stop at a gun shop on Buford Hwy. to attempt to purchase a spare magazine for my recently acquired Glock 36. A guy was locking the door, and told me they were closed. I pointed out he was closing early, according to the posted store hours, and told him I needed a Glock 36 magazine. He walked off, came back and announced they had one for $38.75, about $9.00 higher that other places, but no one had them in stock. I told him I would take it. He said the store was open by appointment only. I pointed out that I lived 32 miles away and couldn't come back on Monday to over-pay for a magazine when he could sell it to me then. "That is not how we do business" was his reply.

The Glock 36 is likely the fourth most disliked Glock, the three .45 GAP guns come ahead of it. That magazine is probably NOS at least twenty years old. It will hang there a while longer I suppose. I won't be going back after it.
Based on your many years of confrontations/mishaps.
Do you look for this stuff or is it simply bad luck ?
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Don’t do business with a guy who doesn’t respect your needs or your money.


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I was thinking the same thing.
Sort of reminds me of the Al Capp character.

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Just a guess....was this at "David's Gun Room"? If so, I'm not surprised.

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Do you look for this stuff or is it simply bad luck ?
I don’t go looking for trouble. I have shopped there since I turned eighteen, never been turned away.
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There are numerous new factory Glock 36 mags on Gun Broker for $30 or 2/$50 shipped.
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I was thinking the same thing.
Sort of reminds me of the Al Capp character.

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I would have made the earliest appointment I could and then sleep in that day.
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The Glock 36 is likely the fourth most disliked Glock,


And its easy to understand why. This was my Gen 4 Glock 36. I bought it brand new.
I NEVER got thru a box of 50 rounds without is jamming 2-3 times.
I had two good friends, one of them who loves Glocks and recommend this one to me
tear it apart, inspect, clean and lube and nothing helped.

I gave it to another friend of mine who was aware of why I disliked it soo much.

My M&P .45 has performed flawlessly since day one.

Its the only gun that I have ever purchased from a LGS.
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There are numerous new factory Glock 36 mags on Gun Broker for $30 or 2/$50 shipped.
Try Aim Surplus. I've bought several magazines from them for my M&P .45

New, $21.95 Orders over $50 free shipping.
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And its easy to understand why. This was my Gen 4 Glock 36. I bought it brand new.
I NEVER got thru a box of 50 rounds without is jamming 2-3 times.
I had two good friends, one of them who loves Glocks and recommend this one to me
tear it apart, inspect, clean and lube and nothing helped.

I gave it to another friend of mine who was aware of why I disliked it soo much.
Even non fanboiz know the Gen 4s had some problems.
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Gunmag warehouse shows them at $24.99 plus shipping regular price, not sale price. So that gun shop was extremely overpriced. I don't know how shops like that stay in business.
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He said the store was open by appointment only. I pointed out that I lived 32 miles away and couldn't come back on Monday...
You may have had better luck leaving it at that and politely asking if you could make an impromptu appointment or do a curbside pick-up. You catch more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar.

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Even non fanboiz know the Gen 4s had some problems.
That gun was exactly why I never wanted a semi-auto pistol.
Perfect example of why I preferred to carry a revolver.
I do occasionally carry my S&W M&P .45. I trust it 100%.

I'm sure Glock makes some good guns but that's certainly not one of them.
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"Greg Cote LLC" appears to have Glock 36 factory mags for $22.95

I put 6 in my cart .......... then emptied it.


Been buying from him for years......................

Happy Mothers Day!!!
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You may have had better luck leaving it at that and politely asking if you could make an impromptu appointment or do a curbside pick-up. You catch more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar.
Adding this probably didn’t win any favor.
I disagree, it is a gun shop, not a gun museum. Every item in there has a price on it, implying it is for sale. If the salesman was willing to sell to me by appointment at a later time, why not then? I did not ask to come in and browse around, I wanted a particular item, which he pulled off the shelf to check the price. It was in his hand.

Covid-19 has shut down many businesses and forced others to alter their sales and service plans. I don’t need an appointment to buy a burger, alcohol, grocery shop. I didn’t need an appointment at the shop where I purchased the Glock 36; which is sixteen miles northeast down the exact same road.

A customer driving by and stopping for the first time will likely never return. I will never return. The shop does have extremely high prices and one of the highest fees to do a transfer. I have shopped there forty-four years. It is a shame it is being run into the ground.
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I disagree, it is a gun shop, not a gun museum. Every item in there has a price on it, implying it is for sale. If the salesman was willing to sell to me by appointment at a later time, why not then? I did not ask to come in and browse around, I wanted a particular item, which he pulled off the shelf to check the price. It was in his hand.

Covid-19 has shut down many businesses and forced others to alter their sales and service plans. I don’t need an appointment to buy a burger, alcohol, grocery shop. I didn’t need an appointment at the shop where I purchased the Glock 36; which is sixteen miles northeast down the exact same road.

A customer driving by and stopping for the first time will likely never return. I will never return. The shop does have extremely high prices and one of the highest fees to do a transfer. I have shopped there forty-four years. It is a shame it is being run into the ground.
I am in no way defending this shop, but having been in the retail business, I can tell you he may have had his cash register closed out for the day. If he sells out of his pocket, no big deal to sell you something. But if he has a computer cash register, opening it up and closing up again would not be worth a small purchase.
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And its easy to understand why. This was my Gen 4 Glock 36. I bought it brand new.
I NEVER got thru a box of 50 rounds without is jamming 2-3 times.
I had two good friends, one of them who loves Glocks and recommend this one to me
tear it apart, inspect, clean and lube and nothing helped.

I gave it to another friend of mine who was aware of why I disliked it soo much.

My M&P .45 has performed flawlessly since day one.

Its the only gun that I have ever purchased from a LGS.
The gun in that pic is not a Gen4. Looks like Gen3.
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Just another reason I won't own Glocks, or other Tupperware guns.
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If I were the shop owner I'd surely have made the sale, if the register was closed, book the next day.
On the other hand, the guy who answered the door may have been an employee maybe instructed specifically never to make a sale without ringing it up, or some other procedure, first.
Too bad either way.
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Some shops can be weird about selling magazines. There is an old "cop shop" near Boston that thinks their magazines are made of gold... but even at sky high prices they refused to sell me 3 semi-scarce S&W 3rd Gen magazines I wanted. They said it was worth more to them to keep them on hand for "good will" giveaways to their cop clientele then to sell them to me.

Another rather quirky gun shop down in Little Rhody refused to sell me any magazines which they kept hidden in a back room for some strange reason. Just plain nutz!

One Massachusetts shop had a 3rd Gen magazine I wanted, but the young female clerk was under instructions not to sell anyone a magazine without the shop owner present. Duh.

Yet another Massachusetts shop owner literally took some Sig magazines out of my hands and sold them to another customer in the shop, apparently a personal friend. Bizarre.

Fortunately, there are many other shops that love my business and the above shops I don't bother with anymore.
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\He walked off, came back and announced they had one for $38.75, about $9.00 higher that other places, but no one had them in stock.
This place has them in stock.

I've bought 3 S&W M&P 45 mags from him, and a mag loader. Great to do business with, and he actually answers phone calls.

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If'n it was me I'd have taken the 2 $20's given you the mag and handed you $2 change. The $40 would go directly in my pocket. Joe
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The gun in that pic is not a Gen4. Looks like Gen3.
I was told it was a Gen 4 due to the two stage recoil spring.
He may have been wrong.

Still a piece of junk.
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rubiranch brings up a good point, the G36’s reputation for sporadic unreliability. I believe this is my twenty-third Glock and like all the others, it will go back to the factory for a physical and steel sights; as soon as the service is resumed.

Every time I visited the factory I have seen a service tech hand a Glock 36 and a bag of aftermarket parts to a customer and tell them it works now with factory parts. I ran a half box of cartridges through it at noon with no issues.
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Do you look for this stuff or is it simply bad luck ?

I asked him a long time ago if he was going to publish a book.



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Maybe the owner had an emergency that was none of your business and he felt saying "that's not how we do things" was a really nice way of saying "I've got more important business to take care of, and your $30 doesn't keep the lights on here, good day".
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I'm not defending the shop, but I don't know about GA gun shop restrictions, but maybe the shop owner has to abide but the "appointment only" restriction and he doesn't want to take the chance of you setting him up? Just speculation on my part.
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And its easy to understand why. This was my Gen 4 Glock 36. I bought it brand new.
I NEVER got thru a box of 50 rounds without is jamming 2-3 times.
I had two good friends, one of them who loves Glocks and recommend this one to me
tear it apart, inspect, clean and lube and nothing helped.

I gave it to another friend of mine who was aware of why I disliked it soo much.

My M&P .45 has performed flawlessly since day one.

Its the only gun that I have ever purchased from a LGS.
the 36 was the red headed step child. Some 36s are flawless,and some are turkeys. The first one I had was perfect the second one jammed with every mag,and I had several different mags.Finally got sick of it and sold it.If you have one that works,its a keeper
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...if he had it in his hand and could have saved you a 64 mile round trip...and still refused the sale...

...I sure wouldn't go back...
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I would have made the earliest appointment I could and then sleep in that day.
No.. I'd make it for the last one.. Make them stay late looking out the window.
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The place is difficult to pull in and out of so before I drove off a truck pulled in, the driver put his phone up to the door to show the employee the screen and he and his passenger were let into the shop.
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And its easy to understand why. This was my Gen 4 Glock 36. I bought it brand new.
I NEVER got thru a box of 50 rounds without is jamming 2-3 times.
I had two good friends, one of them who loves Glocks and recommend this one to me
tear it apart, inspect, clean and lube and nothing helped.

I gave it to another friend of mine who was aware of why I disliked it soo much.
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Gee.. From all the fanboy love, I thought all Glocks were 100% dependable and reliable.

I won't own one so I don't know.
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Having worked in retail sales, I can see why this happened, and can't fault him for it.

Granted that my experience is a good 9 years out of date, but assuming cash registers are still as slow to boot up as they were back in 2011 or the gunshop was using an older cash register, it makes perfect sense. All but one of the stores I used to work at would close a few minutes early if the parking lot was empty because last minute customers would always hold up closing out the store for some minor purchase that really wasn't worth the holdup.

So yeah, considering that the procedure for most gun shops during COVID-19 is to set up an appointment first since most gun shops are prohibitively small for social distancing, so they only allow one customer at a time inside the store at a time, and appointments help to enforce this. The store was closing early because they didn't have anymore scheduled appointments, the register was already closed out, would have likely taken more time to boot back up than the store was supposed to remain open, and as pricey as that magazine was at $38.75, it wasn't profitable enough to justify making an exception just to sell you it.

Lastly, and I can't stress this enough... Fellas, for those of you who have never worked as a cashier, clerk, customer service rep, etc, please be aware that in most cases, those employed in such jobs are not in control of anything more than that. They aren't in charge of pricing, how many items are in stock, company/store policy, or any of the other things the average dissatisfied customer chews them out for. Now they won't tell you that, because then you'll just ask to complain to the manager, and then the manager will just blame them for the customers dissatisfaction anyway, so either way they're going to get chewed out by someone, and they'd rather it not be their employer.
So yeah, as a man who was previously employed as a cashier, customer service representative, and other such underpaying, thankless jobs, I ask that folks cut these poor guys some slack, and unless they're actually doing their own job poorly, spare them your frustration. They already have to work their butts of for meager wages under less than adequate conditions and deal with difficult customers all day long, they don't need the added stress of having to bite their tongue while being blamed because their ****** employer didn't stock enough items to meet demand and overcharges for certain products. You're blaming Bob Cratchit for the faults of Ebenezer Scrooge.
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Two cars and a truck parked by the side door. I recognized two of them so I seriously doubt he was alone. I never tried to enter, I just asked to buy the mag.
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I went to GT Distributors website and for some reason the G36 magazines aren’t even listed. Not in stock or out of stock, but they bought a bunch of used G36 and G21 magazines from the FWC a few months back. It may be worth calling GT’s for new or used magazines.
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hey now, i have a g38, that shoots well, with no issues, my g37 was a little large to conceal. a number of state police carried them, but the ammo cost them a lot. bean counters you know.
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No.. I'd make it for the last one.. Make them stay late looking out the window.
Reading the OP, I don’t think that’s going to happen.
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Reading the OP, I don’t think that’s going to happen.
I was saying make them wait, I'd be home having dinner. Oops guess I forgot.
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The place is difficult to pull in and out of so before I drove off a truck pulled in, the driver put his phone up to the door to show the employee the screen and he and his passenger were let into the shop.
I'd say they had an appointment.
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Just another reason I won't own Glocks, or other Tupperware guns.

I thought like that for a long time. One day at the local gunshow I came upon someone selling the Walther PPS M2 LE with 3 mags, 1 6rd 1 7rd and 1 8rd. for $269. Could not say no at that price. This little 9mm has eaten every kind of ammo I have fed it, from WWB to defensive ammo in various weights without a hiccup. It even shoots the infamously low powered Brown Bear steel case 9mm. Plus, it is extremely accurate. Any time I want to carry something besides my J frames I pick this one.

I also have a couple FN FNS-9 pistols that have been perfect from the time I bought them. Boringly reliable and accurate. I may not ever buy another polymer pistol, mainly because it looks like I will not need to. One of them rests in my bedside table with a TLR-7A on it.
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This reminds me to thank my lgs, next time I'm there.
I showed up there 2 weeks ago. Stuck my head in the door and asked if I could enter.
Owner said, " you have an appointment ".
Me, no, I didnt call.
Owner - " what you looking for".
Me - check for any old s&w revolvers.
Owner - well, snoop quick.

And I did. I left with a decent m18.
I'm planning on going again this week to. I'll call for an appointment this time.
Cause he has a decent m27 in nickel at a good price that maybe we can haggle about.
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Just another reason I won't own Glocks, or other Tupperware guns.
Glocks are generally reliable... and the SIG 2022 has a polymer frame and is very popular for it's combat brick reliabilty, but the SIG also has a hammer, as is proper for a handgun.
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Glocks are generally reliable... and the SIG 2022 has a polymer frame and is very popular for it's combat brick reliabilty, but the SIG also has a hammer, as is proper for a handgun.
I am also a fan of the Sig.
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Life is too short for ugly guns....
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