Is anyone knowledgeable about Anschutz 22 Rifles?

Breadman1 · May 16, 2020

I’ve picked this up and it’s not my style, got it from a friend who bought it just to take off the scope. I know it’s makes 2007/2013, it’s a single shot left handed 22, appears to be in fantastic shape with everything shown. I’m going to either sell it or trade, but need to understand what I have and the value, any help would be appreciated.

federali · May 16, 2020

Super Accurate

The Anchutz target rifles are widely considered the most accurate .22 RF target rifles made and you'll pay handsomely for them. The problem is demand. Gallery style target shooting has waned over the years and many cities have dropped their high school rifle teams although those teams most likely used Mossbergs and Winchester Model 52 rifles as the Anchutz was too expensive for the municipal budget. However, college teams often used the Anchutz and families of means would provide their sons with Anchutz rifles where necessary.

A little-known dark secret to the Anchutz story (I'll make up some numbers here) is that each rifle was tested for accuracy using target ammo. The accuracy goal is 1/4" at 25 yards. But every once and a while, a rifle would shoot into 3/16th or possibly smaller. These rifles wee pulled off the line, and the sales force insured that they went to known, internationally recognized marksmen. This helped insure that the Anchutz name dominated the record books.

As to current value, I have no idea.

Ivan the Butcher · May 16, 2020

Anschutz has two major types of action. The best is a 54 and there is also 64 and the 2000 is a earlier variant of the 64.

New retail, that gun is a couple of grand! Used the market is the guide.

When pricing these rifles, the barreled action is the concern, then the stock. People change stocks to change the disciplen. Being left handed add 15% or so to the Value!

There are a couple levels of sights, they all are very expensive! I have one of their 1970's air rifle with a cracked stock worth $300 at most, those sights are worth $400, so they are on my last "2000" 22. New sights start around $500 and go up into the low $1000's

The right handed glove won't go with this gun at all!

I sold my last 54 actioned rifle about 6 years ago. It had a stock for prone shooting (no fancy hook) I paid $400 in circa 2002, used, and got $1600 in 2012. The stock you have is an expensive one, but no fun to use any position but kneeling and standing!

Lastly, These guns are very ammunition sensitive! 2 different lot numbers can shoot drastically different! I have a friend that is 2 time national champ, ammo that he finds acceptable shoot 10 shot groups at 50 Meters. It will shoot at 4 different torque setting (on action screws), a 10 shot group for each setting. (10 perfect shots, would have a 5.5mm group!) His acceptable ammo must not have a group exceeding 6mm! that was $25 a box ammo

My rifle would shoot about 3/4" groups at 200 yards from a rest! that was $10 a box ammo

I have a wife, an adult son, and so far 3 left handed grand kids. I wish I could make an offer!

Ivan

ETA: That is the standard target trigger! As an accessory that will run you $600! or more (depends of Euro/Dollar exchange rate!)

Ivan the Butcher · May 16, 2020

By the way. I have talked with members of the Anschutz family, they are fanatics about accuracy. Their complaint is that post 1990 ammo isn't accurate enough for their guns! Every rifle comes with the factory target. Look at targets from the 1970's compared to 2000 or later the factory groups are about double sized. For 6 years they made a square action target rifle, a friend of mine designed that prototype action, he has SN #2, and #6 & #14 (#2 was a gift from Dieter Anschutz personally) and Eely TENNEX (10 X) ammo from 1974 out shot anything in the world!

Ivan

H Richard · May 16, 2020

I have had a Model 1408, (54 Match action) for position shooting which I bought for my son back in 1981 when he was on the High School Rifle Team. I later used it with a 20X Unertle mounted on it for Prone 100 yard match's. When my Grandson turned ten I sent it to my son to teach him how to shoot.

I also have 64 Sporter, with a Burris 4-12 scope mounted which I used for Silhouette shooting. Can't say what either sells for as I haven't ever sold one. I do know reduction in use due to most all high schools going to Air Rifle only (Which Anschutz also makes the Premier gun).

I will attest to them being the most accurate rifles I have ever shot. These are just a few of some 100 yard prone match targets I shot with the 1403. Keep in mind I was only in my early 60's then. I doubt I could do it today.

ralph7 · May 16, 2020

Ivan the Butcher said:
Anschutz has two major types of action. The best is a 54 and there is also 64 and the 2000 is a earlier variant of the 64.

New retail, that gun is a couple of grand! Used the market is the guide.

When pricing these rifles, the barreled action is the concern, then the stock. People change stocks to change the disciplen. Being left handed add 15% or so to the Value!

There are a couple levels of sights, they all are very expensive! I have one of their 1970's air rifle with a cracked stock worth $300 at most, those sights are worth $400, so they are on my last "2000" 22. New sights start around $500 and go up into the low $1000's

The right handed glove won't go with this gun at all!

I sold my last 54 actioned rifle about 6 years ago. It had a stock for prone shooting (no fancy hook) I paid $400 in circa 2002, used, and got $1600 in 2012. The stock you have is an expensive one, but no fun to use any position but kneeling and standing!

Lastly, These guns are very ammunition sensitive! 2 different lot numbers can shoot drastically different! I have a friend that is 2 time national champ, ammo that he finds acceptable shoot 10 shot groups at 50 Meters. It will shoot at 4 different torque setting (on action screws), a 10 shot group for each setting. (10 perfect shots, would have a 5.5mm group!) His acceptable ammo must not have a group exceeding 6mm! that was $25 a box ammo

My rifle would shoot about 3/4" groups at 200 yards from a rest! that was $10 a box ammo

I have a wife, an adult son, and so far 3 left handed grand kids. I wish I could make an offer!

Ivan

ETA: That is the standard target trigger! As an accessory that will run you $600! or more (depends of Euro/Dollar exchange rate!)

That had to have been an indoor range.

growr · May 16, 2020

I am very familiar with Anschutz and own several. My serious 3-4 position/prone rifle is an 1813 that was made for Lones Wigger Jr. and is SN 001, I alos have his 54MS Silhouette rifle.

Your rifle appears to be a 1913....maybe a 2013. It is truly a phenominal rifle, in outstanding condition as well. Should sell for 2000-2500.

shoot some Eley Tenex in it if you want to see what it will REALLY do.

Randy

old pipefitter · May 16, 2020

Look at the website Rimfirecentral. there is a subsection on Anshutz rifles

Ivan the Butcher · May 16, 2020

ralph7 said:
That had to have been an indoor range.

No that was the outdoor state range at Woodbury! That was the only true calm day I ever saw there! Perhaps the only calm day there in the history of the world. I had a 36x Leupold M-8 "Target Dot" scope on it, and I was lucky!
the Ammo was Eely "Club Extra", with the EPS bullet. That was a special or over run ammo. But it is marketed as "Team" in the dark blue label. It was also before my stroke!

Ivan

glenncal1 · May 16, 2020

old pipefitter said:
Look at the website Rimfirecentral. there is a subsection on Anshutz rifles

Ditto- those guys will tell you all you need to know. I have a couple Savage/Anshutz a 54 sporter in .22LR and a 141m in .22WMR. Great guns. The bolt on the 54 feels like it is running on ball bearings.

Minorcan · May 16, 2020

I know I can’t afford one, alas. I do have a CZ-452 With a 9x scope that regularly shoots the eyes out of squirrels in the highest Georgia pine. I know not related to Anschutz accuracy.

growr · May 16, 2020

The multi faceted adjustable butt hook on this rifle makes it a joy to shoot in ANY position of the 4 positions usually used in smallbore.....as you make the rifle fit YOU and not the other way around.

Randy

Qc Pistolero · May 16, 2020

While I don't own one anymore(sold it,dumb move)I happen to be the scorer at the club here in Qc.The guys in the .22 rifle league meet 6 times a year and 20% of them shoot Anshutz...and win the match 100% of the time(I must say though that no one has a Walther...it might turn out a little differently).

These matches are shot at 50 yds and 100 yds and like stated above,the ammo is quite expensive.Lots of testing has to be done and when a guy finds the sweet spot,he normally will buy a few thousands of it to make sure it is from the same lot.
I remember the first match I scored;at 100yds,I couldn't beleive my eyes.Many sub 1'' at 100.I thought that I was having an easy job but frequently need the magnifier to score the targets.
Up here in Qc,your gun on the used market would get you from $1000 to $1200 in the bargain spot and $1400 to $1500 in the regular,no bargain but no ripoff either price spot.

jeffrefrig · May 17, 2020

I don't know what you paid for it, or what your friend paid, but I believe it would be a little over-kill (but in a fun way) for clearing hay fields of ground hogs! Nice gun. Also, not to sound old and cranky, but most "kids now-a-days" have no clue what a great way to spend a morning sitting on the fence line of a grateful farmer's field in the summer...just sitting and watching/listening to the birds, etc. Did I mention nice gun?!

Rafterman · May 17, 2020

OK, Inquiring (snoopy) minds just have to ask...what kind of scope was on that rifle that your friend had to have? Must have been something really special.

Breadman1 · May 17, 2020

Unertl 16x, he’s a scope guy

Rafterman · May 17, 2020

Unertl was my first guess. That rifle is right up my alley but I'm a right handed. Couldn't afford it anyway. Thanks.

Dave_n · May 17, 2020

Well being from the UK I used a BSA International Mk II that unfortunately I had to leave in the UK when I "migrated" to the US in 1968. We frequently shot against people using Anshutz rifles from the 1960s era (do not ask me the model numbers these days) but we usually tied with them. These would be prone, iron sights at 100 yds outdoors. Dave_n

Big Cholla · May 17, 2020

If you want to really see just how good that rifle shoots, buy the 10 X Eely, put that barrel/action in a benchrest stock and get a good benchrest shooter to shoot it. With about a year's worth of practice and correct coaching you could be that benchrest shooter. Also, there are a few right handed benchrest shooters that shoot left handed bolt actions because it is more handy for them to load and work the bolt left handed.

BTW; I have a BR stock for that barrel/action that I would sell fairly reasonable.

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