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Should I sell??????
Really on the fence about this one. Have a new never been fired Ruger old Army with 7 inch barrel fixed sights and bright stainless. Part of me wants to sell it simply because after 15 years of owning it, it looks like I just ain't gonna get into black powder shooting. The other part of me says hang on to it, as it might be the only handgun that might be allowable in the future.
What does the brain trust say???
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I would say that you have owned it long enough to be able to make an effort to use it... shoot it... get to know if Black Powder is something that you want to get into. After 15 years and your feeling that it's just not something of interest, then I would sell and use the money for your primary interests. You know that you would be able to buy a very nice Smith. Heck, you could buy another of your favorite Smith revolvers!
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What makes you think they will stop at black powder revolvers?????? Guessing they will ban black powder making your Ruger a club .
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What makes you think they will stop at black powder revolvers?????? Guessing they will ban black powder making your Ruger a club .
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Hard to effectively ban something that has been made for well over 1000 years. I have been making my own and the I wouldn't be surprised to find that strike anywhere match heads and a bit of heavy tin foil worked as a cap. But, by the tine they come for my cap and ball revolver I will be long gone.
I have 2 Ruger old Army revolvers. I keep thinking of making one into a carbine
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Hard to effectively ban something that has been made for well over 1000 years. I have been making my own and the I wouldn't be surprised to find that strike anywhere match heads and a bit of heavy tin foil worked as a cap.
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My great uncle (1880-1978) told me he once had a .32RF pistol. He used a buck shot for a bullet and filed a notch in the rim of the case where the hammer hit and used the head of a match for the cap. Larry
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Hard to effectively ban something that has been made for well over 1000 years. I have been making my own and the I wouldn't be surprised to find that strike anywhere match heads and a bit of heavy tin foil worked as a cap. But, by the tine they come for my cap and ball revolver I will be long gone.
I have 2 Ruger old Army revolvers. I keep thinking of making one into a carbine
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I believe there’s restrictions on Replicas and inlines in some states.
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I'd sell or trade it to get a gun you do want to shoot.
Black powder just seems like too much hassle compared to shooting metallic cartridge guns.
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Sell for a gun you’ll enjoy more?
No-brainer.
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Sounds like a yes.
Sell or Trade for a Gun you will actually shoot.
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The Ruger Old Army model is bringing very high prices now. Check Gunbroker’s completed listings. I don’t hoard guns or any other physical possessions so I would sell it if it was me.
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You could probably sell it at a profit at today's prices. Buy something you want now before prices get even higher out there.
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I would look into a cartridge conversion to .45 Colt or .45 ACP.
Cylinders around $300.
Ruger Old Army Conversion - Conversion Cylinders - Hand Guns
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I was curious and looked and am shocked to see GB "sold" auctions on a stainless Old Army are from $700 to a little over a grand. I would never buy one but apparently others are...
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Well, here's the thing to consider (place on tinfoil hat if so desired....).
BP revolvers of the Ruger Old Army and M1858 Remington repros have never had 'paperwork' associated with them, i.e., no Form 4473. They're BP firearms, sold like vacuum cleaners.
You can obtain an aftermarket conversion cylinder for them, allowing you to shoot CAS - level .45 Colt rounds. I have two friends that have done that on a few, and they shoot great.
Just a consideration. Good luck!
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Well, here's the thing to consider (place on tinfoil hat if so desired....).
BP revolvers of the Ruger Old Army and M1858 Remington repros have never had 'paperwork' associated with them, i.e., no Form 4473. They're BP firearms, sold like vacuum cleaners.
You can obtain an aftermarket conversion cylinder for them, allowing you to shoot CAS - level .45 Colt rounds. I have two friends that have done that on a few, and they shoot great.
Just a consideration. Good luck!
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That's what I was just about to suggest. There are a variety of conversion cylinders available:
Ruger Old Army Cartridge Conversion | Ruger Conversion Cylinder
Howell Arms — Howell Arms Ruger Old Army Conversion Cylinder
Ruger Old Army Conversion - Conversion Cylinders - Hand Guns
I find it interesting that Kirst and Howell even offer a .45ACP conversion cylinder.
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Shooting with a conversion cylinder is even slower that loading lead balls from the front. You have to take the conversion cylinder completely out of the revolver to reload it, and no extractor to help you. I'd trade my conversion cylinder for a second standard cylinder.
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I rotate my gun stock on a regular basis..
Keeping the ones I enjoy, selling the others and get something new..
I would have sent that Ruger down the road long ago...
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Really on the fence about this one. Have a new never been fired Ruger old Army with 7 inch barrel fixed sights and bright stainless. Part of me wants to sell it simply because after 15 years of owning it, it looks like I just ain't gonna get into black powder shooting. The other part of me says hang on to it, as it might be the only handgun that might be allowable in the future.
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If allowable is what you want sell it and pick up a TC Patriot
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Sell it,the novelty of black powder cap and ball wears off fast lol
If they do become the only allowable handguns in the future, everybody will be making them
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Caj', looking at the long run, I'd keep it and invest in a percussion cap tool and stock up on roll caps. As mentioned, the BATFE doesn't view BP arms as firearms, so no 4473.
Currently, we see where we stand with powder and primers being scarce. With a BP non-firearm, with the items mentioned above, you can make the caps and you can make black powder. It may be the last line of defense should buybacks and confiscation become the rule of the day.
At the moment, no one really knows what will happen after January 19th!
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Sell it and acquire something that you really want, like and can use. Paper weights are a poor investment.
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I'd keep it even if I doubted I'd shoot it because I think they are very cool. Makes a nice office or living room ornament. My little bro has one, and I wish I did.
If you're only keeping it because you really worry BP might be the only allowable, legal type of handgun in the future, sell it. A handgun ban ain't happening in our lifetimes. (And I'd bet for a considerable time thereafter.)
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I agree. Sell it and move on.
In my own case, if BP is all we’re going to be “allowed” I’ll be leaving town to live in some warmer banana republic.
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I agree. Sell it and move on.
In my own case, if BP is all we’re going to be “allowed” I’ll be leaving town to live in some warmer banana republic.
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Having shot one a couple of times, and knowing what a PITB they are to clean...I say SELL.
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I keep a couple of black powder revolvers around in case a buddy comes over in the middle of the night and says it has to have a gun now.
Last year a buddy, who is on the liberal side. had a burglary that shook him to his boots. He thought he had a second breakin attempt 2 nights later as well. He was terrified of being seen as an easy mark at his advanced age.
After calming him down for an hour or two, I told him it was illegal to transfer a weapon without an FFL. I further told him that in his condition I thought he posed a danger to everyone and himself. I wasn't going to take the chance that he shot someone with the weapon I had given him.
After reviewing safety and bedroom barricade technique (no house clearing), I was convinced he wouldn't fire until he knew his target; and it was in their bedroom.
I then gave him an option on the black powder, but I insisted we go to the firing line the next day for safety practice. After several hours of discussing scenarios, he decided he wasn't up to the clear thinking in the middle of the night which was required. I convinced him a companion animal had many advantages. So off he went to the local animal shelter. Yea !!!
So that is my black powder story and why every shooter needs one to stay legal when approached by friends in the middle of the night.
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Regardless of whatever legislation comes down the pipe , I will never have a BP weapon as my only means of defense . And like others suggested , shooting one for fun gets old quick .
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I would sell it. I hated black powder so much I gave my guns away, for no money.
But what goes around comes around and I have a 58 cal rifle coming from a friend that just passed
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Just for grins I would load that thing with a shot load and see how it performs. Then MAYBE squirrel hunt with it???? I donno.
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I would keep it. Im hanging on to a Colt 1860 replica. It`s too much fun to shoot every once in a while,
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Really good idea to be thinking about what will be legal/available in the future. However by the time they get to outlawing bp, us of more experienced stature likely won't be around to worry bout it.
My reasoning for selling off firearms never is based on if i ever shot it or not, but if am likely to want to shoot it in future.
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I’d keep it. I received one from a departed relative last year, and it has the .45 Colt conversion cylinder. The conversion cylinder is a little slow loading, but I enjoy shooting it. It is a nice revolver to shoot, no problem knocking over bowling pins with it. I have three standing offers from friends to buy it if I get tired of it. One of these days maybe I’ll get around to trying it with black powder.
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Take it to the local LGS, probably trade it for a box of 9mm ammo.
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Hmmm, Black powder? Brings back lots of fond and miserable memories. Years ago before the wolves ate into the tag quotas around here we had a very nice muzzle loader hunt that was a ton of fun. I went 5 years straight killing my elk with a muzzle loader.
The down side to BP is cleaning them. Dirty job and you dare not procrastinate if you like your guns.
I found no satisfaction in the time between shots or the cleaning afterward.
I think you need to have a very nostalgic side to you in order to enjoy BP guns.
OH yeah, my advice, sell it and get something that is more enjoyable to you.
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If you sell I'd bet you make a profit on it. They are kinda hard to come by these days.
Black powder is fun to shoot and load. I've sold off most of mine, since my honey and I stopped going to rendevous about 20 years back. Don't really have the need any more, though I kept my plains rifle just in case I'm ever attatcked by a buffalo.
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The stainless black powder guns are not that hard to clean. I have 2 stainless Ruger Old Army revolvers and they aren't going anywhere.
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What about to buy another gun??????
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