New love for .22 shorts

When I was a kid shorts were half the price of Long Rifle. So we shot a lot of them plinking and rat shooting at the dump. They also were good ammo for squirrel. Low noise and expended their energy in the squirrel.
I have a bunch of Peters 22 Short Krumble Ball. Was made for shooting galleries. Bullets made of compressed materials that come apart when they strike Target. Just the thing for whatever aggravates you around the house.

I related a similar story earlier. Back in my kid-hood (early-mid 1950s), we didn't have any supermarkets in my part of the world. What we did have was a multitude of small neighborhood grocery/general stores, most often run by older married couples (mom & pop). In my smallish rural Ohio town, there were at least a dozen of them, maybe more, and most of them carried a very limited stock of .22 ammunition and shotgun shells. Some of them would sell shotshells individually, maybe a nickel or dime each. A slightly unusual thing was that it was nearly always Federal ammunition, although I do remember one store which carried Remington. It's a fact that Federal's early marketing program was built upon sales of .22 ammunition and shotshells through those small m&p stores, gas stations, etc. (and also making house brand ammo for the chain stores, such as Sears and Montgomery Wards). As I earlier said, the going price for .22 Shorts then was a quarter a box (LRs were 40 cents), and I shot a ton of them. I never felt particularly undergunned, as those Shorts worked fine for everything I hunted, mainly squirrels, rabbits and even ducks (sitting ducks). My favorite time was early in the year when we always had flooding, and the rising water would drive rats and snakes out of the river bottom cornfields. It wasn't much of a trick to kill all the rats you wanted until you got tired of shooting. The .22 Shorts worked great on them.

Regarding the frangible bullet .22 Short gallery cartridges, they were for a time sold commercially at gun and sporting goods stores to anyone. At least by Remington. They were sold in a small 28 round (4 rows of 7) flat pack tray with a cellophane wrapper under the name of "Remington Rocket", and also under the Peters name, but I don't remember what name Peters used. I bought several packs of them, but didn't see much point in using them when regular .22 Shorts were much cheaper. They didn't last long.
 
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Several years ago I bought (from Brownell's, I think) a modified rotary magazine for my Ruger 77-22 for 22 shorts When fired through an AAC Scarab...talk about quiet. A head shot is required for bushy tailed tree rats.
 
Regarding the frangible bullet .22 Short gallery cartridges, they were for a time sold commercially at gun and sporting goods stores to anyone. At least by Remington. They were sold in a small 28 round (4 rows of 7) flat pack tray with a cellophane wrapper under the name of "Remington Rocket", and also under the Peters name, but I don't remember what name Peters used. I bought several packs of them, but didn't see much point in using them when regular .22 Shorts were much cheaper. They didn't last long.


You are talking about these? They are not frangible. On the back of the box it says "higher speed and greater power than ordinary .22 shorts"
 

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In deference to their ages I used 22 shorts in my 1907-1916 Stevens Model 35 Offhand target pistol and my 1931 H&R 922 revolver.
They'll handle Long and Long Rifle ammo but they're not everyday shooters and I prefer to treat them gently.
Shorts are also great in my old Remington 514 for small varmints and on occasion I'll run some through my Speedmaster just for giggles.
Ride Safe. Dr.Tramp.............
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AJ, just boxes or are they full? Nice either way!
Larry

Thank you!😀

Most are full, some are partially full and none are completely empty. I do not buy from places like Ward's Auctions (Ward's Auctions | Welcome). I get mine from folks at the range, the LGS and a few at gunshows severl years ago (they want to much now). The shadow box weighs about 15-20 pounds, has to sit on a shelf or on the floor, no hanging it up.
 
Short on Shorts

.22 Shorts are neat and fun to shoot. I bet I have
not shot any in maybe 30 years.

My collection of Remington .22 Shorts. I think the
plastic box is an old vintage Coast to Coast 50ct.
 

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.22 Shorts are neat and fun to shoot. I bet I have
not shot any in maybe 30 years.

My collection of Remington .22 Shorts. I think the
plastic box is an old vintage Coast to Coast 50ct.

Don't think I have ever seen a "Coast to Coast" box except in pictures.

Below is one from a draw full called Holiday.
 

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You are talking about these? They are not frangible. On the back of the box it says "higher speed and greater power than ordinary .22 shorts"

They are frangible - exactly the same as used in shooting galleries. The bullets are made of powdered iron in a phenolic plastic matrix. The higher speed is because the bullets are lighter, I think they are only about 15 grains. MV is around 1700 ft/sec. Try a magnet on your bullets.
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They are frangible - exactly the same as used in shooting galleries. The bullets are made of powdered iron in a phenolic plastic matrix. The higher speed is because the bullets are lighter, I think they are only about 15 grains. MV is around 1700 ft/sec. Try a magnet on your bullets.

Correct you are. I found a write up on them. https://www.wardscollectibles.com/22-box-id/USA/REM-Vol2.pdf No where on the box does it state sintered iron as the write up does . 1955-1960 for these.
 
I am a .22 nut . and have several short only rifles. The Winchester 1906 was produced short only for about the first 80,000 serial numbers. It went S, L, LR in late 1907. I have two. The Winchester 1890 was caliber specific and I have two 1890s in .22 short. A rare, or at least scarce is the Winchester model 56 in .22 short. and I was fortunate to find one at a garage sale. The chamber in it is still an unmolested .22 short. It also still has the short marked mag. I also have a military marked Winder musket in .22 short and just sold my1939 Model74 in .22short.

I have several Winchester boys rifles in .22 short and long and a couple marked Short, Long and Extra long. The Extra long cartridges are nearly extinct and only found at gun shows or collectors. The last box of 50 that I saw was $400.00, I passed. I have one box with 28 left in it and I paid to much for them.
 
Our local gun store always has plenty of shorts in stock and just bought 2 100 round boxes today. Dr. Thunder is always in good supply at Walmart also.
 

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Dr. Thunder is the WalMart house brand of Dr. Pepper. I prefer it to the real thing.

Regarding the .22 Short Gallery ammunition, one thing the frangible powdered iron composite bullet does is spark when it hits steel. If you are old enough to remember seeing the old carnival midway shooting galleries, you might remember seeing several sparks fly when the bullet hit a steel duck, rabbit, or whatever the targets might have been. I would love to find a set of the old shooting gallery hardware to restore. I was at the NRA museum in Virginia around 10-12 years ago, and in it they had a restored midway shooting gallery. Of course it was just on display, you couldn't shoot on it.
 
I think the real reason why .22 Short isn't as popular anymore is simply because it's generally less available, more expensive, and doesn't work in most semiautomatic firearms chambered specifically for .22LR.

Obviously it's a fun, quiet little plinking round that would perhaps make for the ultimate introductory shooting cartridge, but it's just not as accessible as .22LR these days, unfortunately.

Come to think of it, I believe that .22 Short was actually the first cartridge that I ever shot, but it's hard to remember because I was just a little boy at the time... If I'm not mistaken, the very first real firearm that I ever shot was my father's Winchester 62 loaded with .22 Short.
 
The Winchester 1890 was caliber specific and I have two 1890s in .22 short.

Back long ago, I had a friend who had an 1890 in .22 LR. We put some sort of plug, I don't remember what, maybe wood, in the cartridge carrier so that it would function OK with .22 Shorts. He also had an 1890 in .22 WRF with an octagonal barrel, but never had any ammunition for it. It apparently had been used in a slaughterhouse, and was in what I'd call highly distressed condition, but it was still functional.

"Come to think of it, I believe that .22 Short was actually the first cartridge that I ever shot"

I know for sure it was the first cartridge I ever shot. In the family gun - an old Marlin Model 100 single shot bolt action rifle. That, and an ancient H&R 12 gauge single shot, were the only guns we had for a long time, until I got into my early teens.
 
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Many think the little 22 short is fine to shoot in crowded areas, but one thing to consider, the 22 Long is nothing more that a short traveling at 100 fps faster. Same 29 grain bullet just going 1200 fps instead of the 1110 fps of the short. A single 22 long killed the largest grizzly bear ever in the 1950's. So be carful.
 
I don’t think there were many businesses in our town that didn’t have a few 22s. Even the Drug store had a few 22s. All the gas stations had them and one had good stock of ammo as well as fishing lures. Parental permission slips were suppose to be used?? Town Ordinance maybe? I had unlimited permission at Western Auto, as long as I didn’t put them on old mans tab.
 
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