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Revolver rifle on Gunsmoke
Watching an episode of Gunsmoke and they have a mountain man carrying a revolver rifle. Best I can tell it’s the Colt. Pretty cool detail none the less.
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Neat looking guns...I don't think I would want to hold one next to my face and shoot it though... ...Ben
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Neat looking guns...I don't think I would want to hold one next to my face and shoot it though... ...Ben
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My thoughts exactly
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El Dorado is one of my most favorite John Wayne films.
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Colt, Smith & Wesson, and other makers offered rifles and carbines based upon their revolver models during the percussion era and well into the cartridge period.
The original US Model 1860 Army Colt .44 revolvers were equipped to accept a shoulder stock attachment. With the 8" barrel the result was a very small carbine-type weapon.
Colt also offered some revolver-based carbines and rifles during (perhaps even before) the US Civil War.
Lots of innovation was going on, lots of new ideas and products.
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Berdan's Sharpshooters, of the Yankee army, received Colt's revolving rifles as their first issue arms. They didn't like 'em.
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Neat looking guns...I don't think I would want to hold one next to my face and shoot it though... ...Ben
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Holding one next to your face isn’t the issue. The problem with the design is that most shooters tend to put their left hand in front of the cylinder to support the barrel. I imagine they only did it once!
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I enjoy watching old westerns because when the property house sent out weapons, they were originals as the replica industry was decades away.
The originals might be altered a bit, Fess Parkers flintlock trapdoor, or they may be pure. Either way, fun to see.
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Having made and fired a revolving rifle in 45 colt. The problem is NOT your arm in front of cylinder. Your arm is crooked and below the bottom of the frame. The inside of your elblow is about a ft away from B/C gap and almost directly under the bottom of the frame. I have never noticed anything at all from the B/C gap wearing a long sleeved shirt. You do however feel a bit of light peppering on your face which is considerably closer to the cylinder than with a normal revolver. I can feel it but it is far from painful, but, I always wear glasses when firing mine
I still have not got around to bluing the barrel. I plan to replace the short cylinder with a long on made from a 44 mag cylinder first.
Modified Brazilian frame with adjustable sights added. 16 1/2" of Green Mountain .452 barrel. Yes, the original serial number is still there. I just used heat and a welder to reshape the grip frame.
I have cut the front sight way down since this picture. Unlike a normal revolver adding an actual stock stops most of the muzzle rise as bullet is in barrel as gun rotates just being held by hands.
It has a .004 B/C gap just can't see barrel shank because barrel is all still in white.
I thought it would be the ultimate whitetail rifle in heavy cover. Lift, aim, fire DA. No safety to click off, real short gun with a heavy bullet. But, really more of it would be interesting, I can, do it, so I will.
I have 2 Ruger Old Armies. Guess what I have planned for one of them.
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Rossi still offers them...
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A few years ago I purchased one new at a LGS. It was in .45 Colt. Looked decent enough. Fired OK but it was a spitter. Having had a single action revolver before (Ruger .44M) I made sure I was holding the gun correctly so no skin damage.
Cleaned it up put it back in the box and took it with me to the next gun show in my area and traded it towards a decent Springfield 03. Only lost a couple bucks in this adventure so it came out OK.
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Berdan's Sharpshooters, of the Yankee army, received Colt's revolving rifles as their first issue arms. They didn't like 'em.
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But the 21st Ohio held Horseshoe Ridge against Anderson's Mississippi Brigade long enough to aid the rest of Union forces' retreat from Chickamauga. The use of the Colt's revolving rifle certainly helped them.
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Revolving rifles are interesting, some people really liked them, some didn't in the old days. I have one of the Remington reproductions as well as a shoulder stock for one of my 1860 Army models. I actually find the 1860 more comfortable to shoot as the length of the stock keeps the flash farther away from my face. The shorter barrel also handles well. The Remington is very accurate but there is a lot of flame and blast very close to the face. It is light and easy to handle though.
The Colt revolving rifles of the Civil War period were 58 caliber, much larger and heavier than my Remington copy. Certainly required proper handling to balance the weight safely while shooting. Some really liked them and used them quite effectively. The Berdan Sharpshooters main complaint was the Colts were not what they were promised when they signed up and they didn't feel they were as accurate as the Sharps rifles they were expecting (let alone the heavy target rifles some brought with them). They did make good use of them until they finally got the Sharps rifles they wanted.
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Revolving rifles are interesting, some people really liked them, some didn't in the old days. I have one of the Remington reproductions as well as a shoulder stock for one of my 1860 Army models. I actually find the 1860 more comfortable to shoot as the length of the stock keeps the flash farther away from my face. The shorter barrel also handles well. The Remington is very accurate but there is a lot of flame and blast very close to the face. It is light and easy to handle though.
The Colt revolving rifles of the Civil War period were 58 caliber, much larger and heavier than my Remington copy. Certainly required proper handling to balance the weight safely while shooting. Some really liked them and used them quite effectively. The Berdan Sharpshooters main complaint was the Colts were not what they were promised when they signed up and they didn't feel they were as accurate as the Sharps rifles they were expecting (let alone the heavy target rifles some brought with them). They did make good use of them until they finally got the Sharps rifles they wanted.
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The wartime rifles were five shot .56 caliber.
Colt's Model 1855 Revolving Rifle in the Civil War | An Official Journal Of The NRA
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the problem with them was they were percussion,cap and ball .and just like the pistols ,sometimes you would have a chainfire,When most chambers go off at same time,If holding in front of chamber like a rifle you could shoot your own arm or hand. not a very good thing ,once cartriges were invented ,it cured that
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