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Old 09-20-2022, 08:47 AM
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For the better part of my shooting life I did not own a bolt action rifle. That changed in 2019 when I bought this secondhand Remington 700 SPS Tactical in .308. I really enjoy this rifle, it’s a very good shooter and great value at this price point.





Early last year I acquired a large stock of NOS ammo which included 2300 rounds of 223 Remington 55 grain Soft Point and a few boxes of Hirtenberg









I tried a few boxes in an AR-15 and in an M16. However the rifles did not seem to like this ammo as it jammed more than I like.

So when an acquaintance wanted to sell his late brother’s Remington 700 VTR in 223 I did not hesitate to buy it from him so I can make good use of this ammo















I am curious to see if it shoots as well as the SPS

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The 700 has always taken a lot of heat from the “claw extractor people.” I guess because I’ve never had a problem with any I’ve owned, and I’ve owned “several,” I’ve always been comfortable with them. There are other production-rifle actions I like better, but the 700 is not something I complain about. Nice rifles you have there. I always wanted to try a VTR but never did. How you got along without a bolt-action rifle that long amuses me.
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A nice pair of good solid rifles. I do not think you will be disappointed with the performance of the Remington 223. I am not sure what the rate of twist is in that particular model, but it should like the ammo you have there.
I have been involved in the police precision rifle community since the early 80’s. I have 40 years of experience behind Remington 700’s and As an instructor, have seen thousands of them go across my firing line in the past three decades.
The Remington 700 is predominately the rifle of choice for police SWAT snipers, usually in 308. The 223 also has a presence.
I spent last Friday shooting a Remington 308 police HB at 700,800 & 1000 yds.
Will look forward to a range report, enjoy your rifles.

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I sold my 1980's Remington 700 PSP in 308 about 12 years ago. It was a great sniper rifle with 173/175 & 190 grain Lake City Match ammo. Dime size groups at 300 yards.

In 1999 or 2000 my oldest son bought a used one that had been an Ohio Highway Patrol (basically the state police) Rapid Response Team sniper rifles. His gun shot well with 150 & 168 grain Federal Gold Medal Match ammo. About 8 years after he got out of the Army, his work moved from Florida to Texas. The Marine veterans got together one Saturday a month to shoot, they invited him so they could take his money and make him buy the beer!! The range was 100, 200, & 300 yards on a private ranch, and he showed up half an hour late on purpose! The Marines were shooting AR-15 custom guns. He started shooting at the 300 yard bullseye and had a 5 shot group that measured 3/4" on the outside. The Remington won all the cash and most of the beer!

I currently have 2 custom rifles on 700 actions. The first I bought was a 22 BR with a 25-inch barrel. A good load I got from AccurateShooting.Com is a Combined Technolgies 50 grain Ballistic tip bullet at 3900+/- fps into 1/4" groups at 300. (Benchmark powder, 205M primer, and Lapus 6BR brass formed to 22 BR.

My second is a 6mm x 284 Win. I hadn't worked with this gun before I had my stroke 11 years ago. I did get to shoot a "One Shot Shoot" with it. At an unknown distance everyone gets a shot at a "large" target only those the hit are allowed to advance to the next smaller target. It turns out the first target was a 2-liter bottle of Orange soda at 523 yards. Only 3 of 25 hit, The second target was a half-liter bottle of Coke-Cola at the same distance. I was the only shooter to hit it. So, I won all the $5 entry fees! Later cardboard targets were place at that distance. I grouped that gun for the first time beyond 100 yards. I shot about 1" (at 523yards.) This load was a 70 grain Sierra Blitzking over IMR 4831SC, 210M primer, and Norma 6.5x284 brass reformed. The data came from Accurate Shooting.Com also.

Remington 700 actions are a very good platform to build an accurate rifle on! (I like a 19-ounce trigger, both of these rifles are around 20-21 ounces. Since they already work so well, I won't be changing them!)

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Although I no longer shoot my '75-ish .30-06 700 ADL, it's not going anywhere.
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Remington 700 rifles are legendary for accuracy and reliability. I had two in 22-250 for Prairie Dog hunting. The accuracy allowed me to have 500 yard one shot kills. This is also why the U S sniper rifle has been Remington 700 basis for a long time.
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Remington 700 rifles are legendary for accuracy and reliability. I had two in 22-250 for Prairie Dog hunting. The accuracy allowed me to have 500 yard one shot kills. This is also why the U S sniper rifle has been Remington 700 basis for a long time.
Not the only thing they are legendary for...
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I worked at Remington as a production supervisor once upon a time. I became familiar with how a 700 was produced. I talked at length with the guys and gals operating the broaches, mills, cutters, and most importantly how the barrels were made and rifled.

We would receive visiting dignitaries (military and civilian) who spoke of the capability of the 700 out in the field. Let’s just say lots of bad guys ended up being statistics due to Ilion, NY craftsmanship and centuries of know how. Remington established 1816.

Yes, I own and shoot 700s and 721s, in .22-250, .244, .280, and .30-06. All very accurate.

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I have seen some severely buggered up 700's from new on the shelf, to pride and joy pieces that acquaintances never really tested until prodded to do so. Buggers hammered into the rifling, if anyone cared to look, half of the bolt locking lugs not making contact within the receiver lock up, screws to short to fix the barreled action to the stock inlet, rifling only visible on one side within the bore for the first inches forward of the chamber, deep bubble type gouges in the bolt face, lathe curls inside the bolt body where the firing pin striker lives. Some were very good, some were very bad, most in between. Could be why most serious shooters just buy a virgin action and build up from there.
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I get great accuracy from Remington bolt guns too, but out of the box 40X's!
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I had a 700ADL in the 60's in 22-250. Very accurate, especially with tuned handloads.

Also had a 700 BDL in 30-06. I had that customized into a light weight hunting rifle in about 1985, before lightweight rifles were popular. It has been passed to #2 son

The ADL was sold and replaced with a Ruger 77V in 22-250 in about 1976 or so. Still have that although it has not been fired in 45 years. I replaced the BDL with a Safari grade Browning in 30-06, and a 1954 Sako Mauser also 30-06. Love Mauser actions,

Actually I don't think any of my rifled have been fired in 40-45 years
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You got to admire how CLASSIC12 handles his ammunition situation. Cases (not boxes) seem to fall in his lap. Never forget his stash of .357 ammo of a few years back. My idol!

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But there’s probably an explanation for that. The bulk of my collection and shooting is with handguns, starting in January 1989. My first rifle was a semi auto bought in 1993



The next two rifles I bought in 2009 were also semi auto





I was in my 20ies and probably considered bolt rifles to be obsolete relics of the past. I know better now
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We are now experiencing the same situation as the US : a shortage of ammo and inflated prices, sometimes double

So I’m glad I started stocking a few years ago

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Classic12, in 223 it is important to match the bullet wt to your rifling twist. Several years ago, bought a mint used Browning X bolt 223 from my LGS, returned to the store because it just wouldn't group well. I had the same problem, using my 62 and 78 grain billets, and it wasn't great with 55 gr either. I looked up the supposed twist on Browning's website, it was listed as something like a 1 in 8 or so. But it checked the twist on my rifle with a rod and a little "flag" on the rod, and mine is a 1 in 12 twist. I think it was an older gun. And now I make up my own 40 grain cartridges, and it is supremely accurate. All my rifle needed was a bullet matched to the twist of my elegant Browning. I don't know how or why my rifle has a much slower twist than advertised. I suspect the prior owner just shot store bought heavier cartridges and gave up on the rifle. Works for me. SF VET
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I have no model 700s. I do have a bunch of model 600 and 660s. Same basic action and extractor setup. I have 1 in 350 Remington mag, 1 in 308, 1 rebarreled to 6.5 Creedmore, 2 in 6mm Remington, 1 rebarreled to 223. I also have 2 XP100s again same action. 1 in 6mm Remington and the other in 221 Fireball.

Not once have any of them ever failed to extract and they are all very accurate.
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My first thought after seeing a long and steady stream of select fire weapons that you’ve acquired at prices about 10% of the going rate in the US and with far less paperwork, expense and delay was a tongue in cheek “What? Bolt action rifles are legal in Switzerland?”

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I bought a Remington 700 SPS Tactical seven years ago, mostly to use the action as the basis for a build as they were selling for a little under $500 at the time. I almost immediately removed the way too bendy Hogue over molded stock. The Hogue stocks with the aluminum bedding block are fine, but the pillar bedded version Remington used was way to flexible for serious use with a sling or bipod. The X Mark trigger was also rubbish.

But with a new Bell and Carlson Medalist stock and a Timney trigger, I was pleasantly surprised by how well the rifle shot with the factory barrel. The 3/4 MOA 5 shot groups were ok but nothing to brag on.

However, the very consistent 10 shot 1 MOA groups, including the cold bore shots were impressive as the barrel was incredibly stable as it went from cold to hot. Equally importantly it does it with magazine length rounds loaded on my Dillon 550B so it doesn’t require tedious hand loading methods to get an acceptable level of accuracy and consistency.

I’m not real respectful of the self styled “long range” shooters out there who can shoot a 3 shot half MOA group at 600 plus yards - after taking 3-4 shots to walk the first round on target under ideal known distance range conditions. That kind of “precision” doesn’t hold up well in real world wind, weather and terrain.

I’ll take extremely consistent 1 MOA accuracy with a cold bore shot that is on point of aim over 1/2 MOA or even 1/4 MOA shot group accuracy, after an off target cold bore shot, every time as in the real world, it’s the first shot that counts.

I have a couple other .308s that are solid half MOA rifles, one set up for hunting and the other set up for longer range work (over 600 yards using 175 gr bullets. But this 700 and it’s 20” barrel is extremely well suited to 168 gr SMKs out to about 700 yards.

I have thought about adding a detachable box magazine from time to time but I’ve just never seen enough need to bother.



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Classic12, in 223 it is important to match the bullet wt to your rifling twist. Several years ago, bought a mint used Browning X bolt 223 from my LGS, returned to the store because it just wouldn't group well. I had the same problem, using my 62 and 78 grain billets, and it wasn't great with 55 gr either. I looked up the supposed twist on Browning's website, it was listed as something like a 1 in 8 or so. But it checked the twist on my rifle with a rod and a little "flag" on the rod, and mine is a 1 in 12 twist. I think it was an older gun. And now I make up my own 40 grain cartridges, and it is supremely accurate. All my rifle needed was a bullet matched to the twist of my elegant Browning. I don't know how or why my rifle has a much slower twist than advertised. I suspect the prior owner just shot store bought heavier cartridges and gave up on the rifle. Works for me. SF VET
In some calibers, like .308 and .223, in particular it’s also important to consider how the barrel is throated.

For example, I have a Ruger 77 Mk II VT that is set up with a shorter free bore (as used to be the common practice) that works well with magazine length secant ogive 165-168 gr bullets that sit about .010” off the lands.

In a lighter composite stock, that trait along with a 26” barrel that gets the velocity of a 165 gr bullet up around 2780 fps makes it my go to open country hunting rifle.

I also have a Bergara B-14 BMP. It’s an accurate (.4 MOA) rifle but it’s longer throated and getting that accuracy with that greater free bore requires using either a long seated bullet that won’t fit in the magazine or a tangent or hybrid tangent/secant ogive bullet that will tolerate the excessively long jump to the lands.

My Remington 700 falls in between, but still shoots 3/4 MOA five shot groups with 168 gr SMKs loaded magazine length on my Dillon 550B.

In short, selecting the right bullet for the rifling twist rate and the distance to the rifling is important.

Personally, I’m not a big fan of the .308 chambered in a short action magazine fed rifles when have a long free bore that is clearly optimized for OALs that are well over maximum magazine length. They effectively become single shots, and you might as well have a stiffer solid bottom receiver. If you really want a repeater, set the free bore accordingly, and if the need is a repeater with long bullets, use a standard length action.

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Nice SPS! I bought a used 700 SPS in 270WSM from a local guy a few years back. He bought it because he wanted a .270 and didn't know the difference with a WSM. Consequently he never got figured out what he had and sold it in disgust, luckily for me! It has taken a two antelope in the last couple of years.
I have a 700 BDL in 25-06 that I have had since the early '70s and has taken many Deer, Elk, and Antelope over the years in my hands and others. And then a 700 Classic in .270 that I got just because I liked it and it was in super condition.
I could care less what the anti 700 guys say, my life is based on my experiences not anyone else's opinion, and my old BDL has served me well for 50 years now, and I am quite fond of it along with its newer siblings.

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My 700 is an early 35 Whelen. It has taken bears, elk, deer, and coyotes. I've never recovered a bullet, even on a cow elk shot facing away from me - the bullet went in under the tail, out the brisket and continued on it's way. My grandson gets this one, along with the dies and brass.
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A few years ago? I started stocking up on ammunition and components during the Clinton Administration!
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But there’s probably an explanation for that. The bulk of my collection and shooting is with handguns, starting in January 1989. My first rifle was a semi auto bought in 1993


The next two rifles I bought in 2009 were also semi auto

I was in my 20ies and probably considered bolt rifles to be obsolete relics of the past. I know better now
I was late coming to the world of semi-automatic rifles because of the deer hunting laws in Pennsylvania. I think you will enjoy shooting some of the old classic bolt action rifles like the Springfield and Model 1917 Enfield.
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This .308 Model 700 has been totally reliable and amazingly accurate. I call it my "flea flicker" because I think it's fully capable of flicking a flea off a dog's butt at 100 yards. I've also made good shots out to 500 yards with it. No complaints.

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Classic12, that case of primers is worth what a decent used car goes for now days! As far as reliability and the non claw extractor...I will only say that the U S Military hunts the most dangerous game in the world with a 700 Remington! In my long relation with 700's I have seen 1 bolt handle fall off and 1 extractor break. It happened when the dimwit using it with his handloads and stuck a case in the chamber. He got the bolt open but it was frozen so he stomped it with his boot and the rest was history!
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I have two 700 BDL's, bought them both new in the early 80's. A '06 that is my go-to deer rifle, and a 222 I bought for wood chucks. Will never part with either.
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700 Rem is good rifle but it’s main reason for taking over the market was manufacturing processes which made it profitable. The design of it lends itself to simplicity.
The American bolt action others were judged by was pre 64 Win 70. The reason for its demise was cost. All the excellent BAs built on M98 pattern
were expensive to produce. Also the customizing of Rem 700s was much cheaper due to design. They became the 10/22 of BA CF rifles. Now 700s are loosing to Savage. Like everything else in todays world, backwards.
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Some great pics posted and thanks. Mine is a just a regular 700 ADL I paid around $330 back in 84 but does have walnut and some truly great bluing still. I know the current Rem-Arms is again coming out with the 700 line including the BDL but I imagine the cost is pretty steep for the old black walnut glossy bluing these days.
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I’ve never had a 700 in my keeper rack. I do have a Rem 722/ 222 that is good shooter with K10x. I also had a Rem 721 with Lyman receiver sight that was excellent shooter. Shooting wise not that much different than 700 but liked the stocks better, kinda m70ish.
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Back in the early 80’s, I sold a Colt 7MM to send the kids to summer camp…With the money I had left, I found a 700 BDL 7MM….after saving up for a Scope, and using factory ammo, I couldn’t get it to group under 2 inches@ 100yds….., I sent it back to Remington and asked them to check it….I got a letter advising “Barrel mildly eroded and Trigger adjusted out of spec”…

I called and asked for the Service Manager and advised I was willing to pay for any parts/ labor and that the 700 in .308 with 3x9 Leupold was the USMC Sniper Rifle and would hold an inch @ 100 yds…He asked if I had received the Rifle back and I advised I had not…He advised When the UPS truck showed up, to refuse delivery and put return to Remington and add his name, Kevin…a couple weeks later ,I received a letter advising my Rifle would have a new barrel and receiver with a new serial….all @ N/C……I received the Rifle back, re-mounted the Vari-X 111 3.5 X 10 and went to the Range….Shot lights out…

Called one of the Fruit Companies that picked and shipped Oranges and Grapefruit and shipped an order to the Service Dept. ….Got a nice Thankyou note from Kevin C. advising it came in time for their Thanksgiving feast…

The Target is 100 yds, using a front rabbit ear sandbag only…3 shots into .315, Center to Center…
Took the Rifle to Alabama and dropped a Buck @ 250 yards, 7pt….That was a few years ago…

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I bought a 700 in 7mm Mag in 1994, and equipped it with a Nikon Monarch UCC scope, still one of the best shooting rifles I’ve ever owned.

But I also have 2 Remington 788’s, both in 308. They were the low end version of the 700 when produced and according to some would out shoot the 700’s, hence they quit producing them. The Carbine size 788 is my absolute favorite, and if it wasn’t for the rattling magazine, would be about perfect (a little Alabama Chrome, duct tape, will fix the rattle). It ain’t purty, but it works.
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Always thought Remington should have brought back the 788 instead of introducing the 710-770 disasters when they were facing problems. Good to see some quality returning in more of the vintage models.
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I bought a 700 in 7mm Mag in 1994, and equipped it with a Nikon Monarch UCC scope, still one of the best shooting rifles I’ve ever owned.

But I also have 2 Remington 788’s, both in 308. They were the low end version of the 700 when produced and according to some would out shoot the 700’s, hence they quit producing them. The Carbine size 788 is my absolute favorite, and if it wasn’t for the rattling magazine, would be about perfect (a little Alabama Chrome, duct tape, will fix the rattle). It ain’t purty, but it works.
The 788 was significantly less expensive than the 700 but shot just as well and on some cases better than the 700. It was very, very accurate for a budget rifle.

I have a 788 in .243 and I also have a 540X in .22 LR. It’s clear they are based on the design. The lock time is also very fast which improves accuracy.

In addition, the rear locking lug design allows for a very stiff and simple to machine receiver. The narrow single stack magazine minimized the cut out in the bottom which again increased stiffness over a double column box magazine 700.

The end result was excellent accuracy.

It’s main weaknesses are:

- the potential for bolt flex that can cause the same effect as excessive head space with higher pressure loads in the larger case head diameter cartridges. (That’s also felt by some to be at least theoretically aggravated by the use of 9 small locking lugs that, so the theory holds, have a lower percentage of engagement than a traditional two locking lug system.); and
- a fragile bolt handle that has a tendency to break if you start trying to beat the action open after firing a round that was a bit too hot.

In any case it cut into Rem 700 sales and it was dropped in 1983.

I wasn’t a big fan of the 18” carbines in .308 and .243, but I always wish we’d they’d offered the 18” barrel in .223.


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I was the Navy Recruiting Zone Supervisor up in Northeast Tennessee back in the late 80’s. A guy came into the Bristol station one day wanting to sell his deer rifle, a 788 with very pretty wood, almost blonde. In any case he wanted $40 bucks, so I bought it, and killed a few deer with it, nice shooting gun. Ended up selling it, to my regret as usual. Took me years to find another one as nice, but I finally did and it’s become a safe queen. Still love the look of the carbine. Not very practical in 308, but it sure is pretty for a low end rifle (per Remington &#128513.

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The 788 was significantly less expensive than the 700 but shot just as well and on some cases better than the 700. It was very, very accurate for a budget rifle.

I have a 788 in .243 and I also have a 540X in .22 LR. It’s clear they are based on the design. The lock time is also very fast which improves accuracy.

In addition, the rear locking lug design allows for a very stiff and simple to machine receiver. The narrow single stack magazine minimized the cut out in the bottom which again increased stiffness over a double column box magazine 700.

The end result was excellent accuracy.

It’s main weaknesses are:

- the potential for bolt flex that can cause the same effect as excessive head space with higher pressure loads in the larger case head diameter cartridges. (That’s also felt by some to be at least theoretically aggravated by the use of 9 small locking lugs that, so the theory holds, have a lower percentage of engagement than a traditional two locking lug system.); and
- a fragile bolt handle that has a tendency to break if you start trying to beat the action open after firing a round that was a bit too hot.

In any case it cut into Rem 700 sales and it was dropped in 1983.

I wasn’t a big fan of the 18” carbines in .308 and .243, but I always wish we’d they’d offered the 18” barrel in .223.

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I like your rifles, both of them. I, too, have an SPS tactical in .223. I ended up putting mine in a laminated factory Remington stock, just because I like the look. It shoots as well or better than the synthetic one did. I took it last range trip and it is a reliable .75 at 100 yard rifle. Sometimes I can do a little better than that. Mine has a 4.5-14x Bushnell on it. One cool thing about this rifle, it seems to shoot better as the barrel heats up. Zero does not wander nor does group size increase.
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If Remington does indeed build the 700 again, I hope they free float the barrel to save me the trouble. All but one 700 I ever owned shot better when free floated except the 25-06 and it was a dog from the beginning. Some of them from the early 70's were true 1/2" rifles. Of course I traded them like the foolish young man I was.
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I also picked up my first bolt gun in 2019 … Also a Remington 700 …

A few differences from there though. LOL

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Just amazing what you come up with over there!!
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Classic12-Nice rifles and great score, on the ammo!

Not much of a long-range expert, myself, I'm happy being able to put a cold-bore shot, into Minute-of-Heart/Lungs. The BDL on the right is chambered in .30-06. It was my Uncle's, and, although he used it, he hated it, because it shot to the left, even with crosshairs adjusted all the way to the right. Once he left for that great deer camp in the sky, the rifle became mine. Took it to my gunsmith to see what the problem was. Turned out that the holes that were tapped for the scope mount were off-axis. A windage adjustable scope mount was the answer. Since then, it has taken 4 bucks, with 4 shots, ranging from 100 yards in a 60 mph cross-wind to slighlty more than 300 yards. If I do my part, and the range isn't too windy, it'll put a 180 grain SST into the bull every cold-bore shot, at 200 yards.
He also left me a bunch of .308 ammo; so, I did the only reasonable thing, and bought a BDL chambered in .308. It's also a great shooter, but I have a soft spot in my heart for the '06.
I also have an M70 in .223. Have not shot it enough to know for sure, but I am more accurate with the 700's.
I don't cycle enough rounds to comment on the reliability of claw v non-claw, but out of the 3, the Winchester would be the first to go.
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The worst I ever been hurt with a rifle was a Rem 700. A local businessman that didn’t hunt but was going on some kind of company socializing hunt came in to order a gun. He wanted 700 BDL 300Win Mag, Leupold 3x9 scope and wanted it strapped and cased. On top of that he wanted 2 boxes of ammo to go and wanted rifle sighted in.
I was sighting rifle in off sand bags and had my left hand laying flat on bench. Right under pistol grip. When I touched off it felt like somebody hit my hand with a sledge hammer. Swelled up like a boxing glove.
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My happiest recollection of buying a new rifle was when I ventured into Remington’s factory showroom/sales area at the historic Ilion, New York facility about 1996. That was after examining many rifles that were on display elsewhere in the building.

I had a desire for a 7 mm – 08 and thought this esteemed manufacturing plant might just be the place in which to acquire such. Indeed, that was true. In my conversation that day, the salesman, name forgotten, said “We offer these at full retail price; but since you buy from us we do put on a stock that is one grade of walnut up from standard.” I thought that entirely satisfactory!

I remarked that I would prefer to have a stainless barrel and action, but was not sure Remington offered that. To which he replied that they did not, but as a favor, he would be glad to supply stainless metal parts along with the higher grade walnut. Talk about customer service!

I received a message in about a month that the rifle was ready. When I went to pick it up, the same salesman greeted me and said “ I hope you’ll be satisfied with this rifle. When we test fired it it did not offer quite the accuracy we would like. So, we fire-lapped it, and now it’s shooting nicely under an inch at 100 yards with factory 140 grain ammo.”

So for well under $600 I received a very fine rifle, which with my handloads uniformly shoots under 1 inch at 100 yards for five shot groups. I still have that, my only BDL - and fondly recall the opportunity to interact directly with one of America’s then premier manufacturing companies.

Great company, great rifle, great service, great memories.
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Great to see so much enthusiasm for the 700

First shots, only 50 meters for now. I adjusted the scope at home by lining up the barrel and crosshairs. When I got to the range I was only abt 6 inches on the right and could adjust in a minimal amount of time with 3 shots

Might need to refine but I was running out of time




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I finally picked up a Remington 700.
Chambered in .243
Shot it at 100 and 300yds.
Nice rifle.
Wish I was a hunter.

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It is no secret, among my fellow shooters, that when it comes to bolt action rifles, I am a Model 70 Winchester fan. That being said, my one and only Mod. 700 Tactical rifle in .223 is no slouch!!

The rifle, with a Nikon 6.5 x 18 Target scope and my handholds with 69 gr. Sierra BTHP at 100 yard will deliver less that nickel size groups at 100 yards. It was a breezy day at the range.
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Funny - it took me a lot longer to obtain handguns than bolt action rifles. Anyway, not counting my dad's FW Heym .22 single shot bolt gun my first rifle was a Remington M788 in .308 Winchester. 1971 as I recollect. That geezer and this geezer took quite a few deer and many a one inch group was shot with it at 100 yards. Supposedly Remington's "lesser" model than the M700 but man oh man, it's a tack driver.



I did acquire a M700 ADL many years later, in .223, and it's a sweetheart. I bought it because I heard they were discontinuing the ADL series so I just had to have it. I have no picture of it. Sorry.

What I particularly liked about it was the fiberglass stock. I like fiberglass stocked rifles even if I don't like polymer handguns much. But I have a couple of those, anyway.
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Its amazing what a well built, blue printed 700 with do!

My Dad was a 98 Mauser guy, and at one time had several nice hand built rifles made on these actions. He is gone now, as are most of his guns.
I have one of his, best guns, chambered in 243, built on a Mk X action.
A beautiful rifle, that is also a pretty accurate shooter, the same as my 22-250 that is built on a 98 German action.

I have had a couple 700 Remingtons, and liked them both. One was in a light wight 700BDl in 6 MM Rem. This was a good deer rifle with acceptable accuracy for hunting, and I loved the 6MM Remington cartridge.
This rifle produced good accuracy, but one small problem, in order to get really good accuracy you had to set the bullet out to about 20/1000 of the lead, and then it was too long to fit in the magazine. I think the just cut the throat a bit deep.

Next was a 700BDL in 223, with a heavy barrel. It shots decent with my hand loads, but not until I glass bedded it.
It appeared that Remington may have used a Skill saw to fit the wood.
Really loose rough fit, but after I opened it up, and glass bedded it, it will shoot into a dime a 100 yards. I killed a lot of Prairie dogs with it.
Its more accurate than my gun smith built AR 15 with a Bartlein barrel and all the goodies to make it shoot. I should have had him do the build on the 700 that I had.

From what I hear older 700's are coming up in value a lot. From a friends last gun show report, about any thing that said 700 Remington on it was at least 700 bucks.
I suppose they are being made currently? Who knows about the quality?

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Yep making the 700 I see in ADL with synthetic and the BDL. Some nice stories and pics here by the way. Bought a 700 ADL back in 84 when walnut and high polish blue was the norm still. Changed the stock a bit with more satin finish than high gloss but included sling swivels, and a more flared forend and un-jeweled bolt. Good buy for $330 back then new. The older 700s should be worth a premium with the nice cosmetics like walnut and bluing. Probably the new made 700 BDLs will be a grand or more. A new 1100 will probably cost $1100
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I only have one 700 these days - a fairly rare 6.5 Remington Magnum with 24" barrel I stumbled across in a little gunshop in Collierville, TN years ago. It's extremely accurate, as is the 6.5 RM 660 carbine I bought later. Only 700 I ever had that wouldn't shoot well was an early ADL .22-250 I bought that turned out to have a pretty badly eroded throat. I do have a Bergara in. 308, which is basically just a really well-made 700 clone.
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