Any Ortgies Owners ???

4T5GUY · Feb 14, 2023

I always wanted both the .25 and .32 examples to complement my other pocket/vest collection. Prices went up on them and my interest went in a different direction. I’m still interested enough to look out for perfect examples at low prices.

I watched a .32 on GB this last Sunday and didn’t understand the final bid of $3,077.02. Must be a very special one. The Germany marked grip panels to me is different. I’ve seen Germany marked on the right side of frames for importing, or is it exporting?

Any idea what makes this Ortgies so extremely special?

Jim

robertrwalsh · Feb 14, 2023

They are neat little guns. I don't think they are THAT neat however. I paid about $275 for mine a few years back. It is a solid, reliable and functional pocket pistol. I had no idea there was any collectors interest in them.

BLACKHAWKNJ · Feb 14, 2023

Perhaps it had a letter showing provenance, connecting it to a high ranking/notorious personage.
I have a 25 ACP, typical between the wars German worksmanship, finely finished, finely fitted.

Swiftflyer · Feb 14, 2023

Looks like a standard two line to me. I have them in all three calibers, blue, bright nickel, matte nickel, side safeties, and Germany stamped grips. Very nice little pistols but I can't imagine what would make one worth that much money.

erikpolcrack · Feb 14, 2023

robertrwalsh said:
They are neat little guns. I don't think they are THAT neat however. I paid about $275 for mine a few years back. It is a solid, reliable and functional pocket pistol. I had no idea there was any collectors interest in them.

Same story for me and my shooter grade 32. Like it a lot.

s&wchad · Feb 14, 2023

That's not your typical 2 line Ortgies. "D.W.A.E." marked guns are said to be extremely rare.

I have no idea if that was an appropriate price, but 2 people obviously thought so.

Alpo · Feb 14, 2023

"Side safety's"??

I have two, and the only safety either one of them has is a grip safety.

When you squeeze the grip safety, it locks in the forward position. When you push the button at the rear of the left side (where you would expect a thumb safety to be) it releases the safety, which pops back into the off position.

This button is also used in disassembly of the gun. But it is not a safety.

Your gun has a safety on the side?

4T5GUY · Feb 14, 2023

s&wchad said:
That's not your typical 2 line Ortgies. "D.W.A.E." marked guns are said to be extremely rare.

I reached out to David Rachwal, (Handguns Of The World,) and yes because of the DWA marked slide it is rare. He said it was the first .25 example he has EVER seen. (I mistakenly said .32)

David has seen thousands of firearms so that explains it.

Thanks for the replies.

Jim

AJ · Feb 14, 2023

A friend of mine used a .32 Ortgies as a carry piece. He liked it a lot. He broke the firing pin. Had my F-I-L tig weld it and I reshaped it so it fit. Carried it for as long as I know.

Gene L · Feb 14, 2023

I first saw this on another site. Asking why this pistol was so valued. The responder said it is "the ultra-rare 7th version" with the slide marked in a certain way. The pistol looks unfired, and the poster seems to be an authority. Still, a lot more money than one I'm willing to buy even at $300.

SHOOT1SAM · Feb 14, 2023

WOW! I missed the ‘t’ in the title & thought “WHOA! This dude is on the wrong forum…

Sam

LVSteve · Feb 15, 2023

SHOOT1SAM said:
WOW! I missed the ‘t’ in the title & thought “WHOA! This dude is on the wrong forum…

Sam

Sure it wasn't just wishful thinking?

OLDSTER · Feb 15, 2023

I've been an Ortgies fan for about 5 years. After reading as much as I could find about them, I finally purchased this nice .25acp ( 6th Variant ) in 2019. I'm constantly looking for nice examples of .32 and .380. So far the guns seem to be either poor examples or rare and special examples.

Goony · Mar 18, 2024

I've attached below a photo of mine, in .32 caliber. A quite ingenious design in many respects. Streamlined exterior, with definitely a minimalist aspect to it which is enhanced by its requiring no screws whatsoever to assemble.

Here's a really comprehensive article on these: https://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Ortgies/ortgies.html

erikpolcrack · Mar 18, 2024

I've got a run-of-the-mill 32 shooter. Like it a lot. It carries, handles, and shoots great.

AJ · Mar 18, 2024

LGS here has one every once in a while. Never sell them over the counter, always goes on line.

DWalt · Mar 18, 2024

Had one about 40 years ago for awhile. A .32. I think I paid about $50 for it. I remember it was missing some part, and I filed out a replacement that fit. I didn't shoot it very much. I never thought they were uncommon or very desirable as I have seen many of them over the years. Indeed, they have no screws, a fairly ingenious design.

Goony · Mar 18, 2024

I imagine this would certainly have to be the most expensive Ortgies ever sold: Deutsche Werke Ortgies Pistol 6.35 mm auto | Rock Island Auction

Swiftflyer · Mar 19, 2024

I have too many of them! All three calibers, all three finishes, and until just now I thought I had all of the slide variations. The side safeties are somewhat scarce and simply lock the grip safety in the safe position.

Swiftflyer · Mar 19, 2024

The first Ortgies exported were stamped Germany on the grips, the later were stamped on the frame.

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