For a long time I resisted the purchase of any of the "Spaghetti Westerns" as I called them. Reproductions by Uberti and Pietta (are there any other Italian makers?). Didn't really fit in with my collecting interests, weren't "original", I didn't SASS shoot, told myself a number of reasons.

But none of them were really good reasons.

So I was looking for something different than the pre war shooters I normally am drawn to, told myself I just wanted something for fun at the range. And I was sitting on a bunch of 45 Colt so...I wander into one of my favorite pawnshops and I didn't wander out with a Colt clone...I wandered out with a Remington clone. 🙂

Anyone else like Spaghetti Westerns? Have your own clone(s) to share? Revolvers? Rifles? Cowboy rigs? Whaddya ya got?

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I haven't shot this one yet, I'm recovering from surgery and probably won't get to for another 2-3 weeks, but a couple of observations from a day of dry fire with snap caps plus a take down and cleaning.

This was a "new to me" Uberti, but previous owner hadn't fired it much. For the price point, this seems like a pretty well made and assembled revolver. Cylinder gap measured .003", and cylinder lock up is bank vault tigt with almost zero movement when in battery. All cylinders are in time.

Trigger pull was extremely crisp with a pull of 3 lbs, which because of the break, seemed lighter. Snap caps and previous fired empty shells didn't have any ejector issues or binding.

And the grips look like they were grown on the frame.

Again, haven't shot it yet but I'm not seeing any potential problems, and I even like the color. 🙂

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Only one I have is a Pietta 1860 Army black powder repro I bought back around 1990. I like it a lot but have not fired it in 25 years or so. Good solid piece of work.

I have a few.



A couple of Uberti 1861 to replace the pair of Colt 1861s I sold. A few Uberti 1860s, more of the Uberti Pocket Police…

Oh yeah, and an Uberti Remington 1875, Walker Colt and a few others stolen by my brother-ex-law.

Kevin

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And here as I noticed the thread title I thought you were talking about the Sergio Leone produced Trinity movies or a favorite of mine My Name is Nobody which has Henry Fonda in it
Yes, I have several Italian revolvers

My first is this #3 Schofield Wells Fargo model. Chambered in 45 Long Colt, my example is quite accurate and reliable

I also have this 3 1/2" 1873 El Patron from Uberti chambered in 357 Magnum that I took in a trade but liked it so much I kept in

A little on the heavy side, but a GREAT SAA revolver

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I have a Navy Arms replica Remington in .45Colt. Shown here with a couple Rugers, at the bottom.

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Just fyi, Uberti is owned by Benelli (another Italian maker, but not of reproductions) and Benelli is in turn owned by Beretta. So Beretta owns Uberti.

Beretta also doesn't directly make clones, but they have directly sold clones, that were all made by Uberti. 🙂

I've thought about buying one of the 4&3/4" Italian models in .45 Colt that Rural King has on sale fairly often but the reviews of them that I have read haven't been very favorable so I decided to pass. There are nice looking however.

Are you implying that the Stampede, Gold Rush and Laramie were not made by Beretta?

I know that Uberti supplied Stampede parts to Beretta, but I was told that manufacture, and finish were done by Beretta.

I never discussed the Gold Rush or Laramie with them

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My response begins with the caveat that is in the first paragraph of my first post, rather obviously saying that I'm not an expert on Italian replicas.

With that being said however, the Laramie is listed by multiple internet sellers as the Beretta/Uberti Laramie. And ditto for the Gold Rush. Multiple sellers.

Regarding the Stampede, there several threads on the High Road, and other sites,
discussing this very topic. The summary of them is that Uberti does manufacture the Stampede "for Beretta" and to specifications unique to Uberti in that it uses a transfer bar a la Ruger, "the only one Uberti makes". Additionally, multiple threads mention additional polishing for the models sold under the Beretta name. That makes sense considering Uberti being a subsidiary of Beretta and that Beretta is the marquee brand.

So...maybe you're right, dunno, but certainly others disagree. I certainly haven't "discussed" any models directly with Beretta And in the final analysis Beretta does own Uberti, so I'd assume they could do whatever they want.

With all that being said...if I stepped on your toes that wasn't my intent. I just want to see some Italian replica gun porn from other members. 🙂

So...got any pics of your Stampede? Or Laramie? Or Gold Rush?

When they first came out, back in the late 90s, I got a Uberti number 3 third model Russian. Sweet gun. The originals had Russian writing on the rib, and I noticed that this one also does. A friend of mine at the time had a Russian wife and Russian stepdaughter, so I took it over to his house and asked to have it translated.


It says NUMBER 3 RUSSIAN GUN FACTORY, A. UBERTI ITALIA


I thought that was cool.

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I love a lot of the stories, but I’ve always found it distracting when the dubbed in voices and the mouth voices don’t sync up

I was brought up watching the old films , war films but especially cowboy films like 'Shane' and best of all....the Clint Eastwood movies. Allways wanted a collection of these guns shown in the movies but here in the UK it's extremely difficult possessing any form of pistol, or rifle for that matter.Even replica's and blank firers need a membership-permit-licence. As I'm reaching retirement age I thought I start a collection (mainly blanks and replica's) and turn it into a bit of a hobby. Researching the makes, models and history.....it's going to take me quite a while though. There fascinating items, items which you folk take for granted. Fancy being able to walk into a gun shop and come out with a real Magnum .357 , .38 Special or .45 SAA, etc, etc and shoot them on a range. Here in the UK have to make do with cast , plastic models or pictures of our favorite guns. I'm thinking of moving to the States :-)

Yes, I like the spaghetti westerns. Have watched them over and over.

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I love The Man With No Name Trilogy of films by Sergio Leone, but I haven't seen many others beyond that.

I would be pleased to own a nice Italian Cowboy Gun by Uberti or Pietta, but I've yet to have the money to spend on such a thing, so I'll settle for a cheap .22 Plinker...



This cost my father $130, which scratches the itch sufficiently at a cost I can easily afford. As a nice little bonus, Heritage Arms Rough Riders are made in the USA, same goes for the Ruger Wrangler.

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Like the Spaghetti’s.
Especially with Clint or Terance Hill.
Revolvers - yes again, have the itch for Bird Head Grip 38-357.
Get a cross draw Holster , why yes, I did go to Dental School.
Took it by correspondence from a Univ in Guatemala.

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Henry should have patterned their new revolver on the /OP's Remington.

I guess when I was growing up those repros were just coming out and didn’t have good reputations. The price was cheap compared to what they were copies of, but at that time you could take that money and stomp out a used original.
So being a gun snob I have never considered buying Spaghetti Guns. I still feel same way about buying them but do get them on trade. They just don’t have the class of an original, even if beat up. I just saw some repro Colt SAs that come in a Distressed Finish. Rule of thumb, if it sounds like it should come with order of breadsticks, I’m not interested.

Speaking of cowboys......here's a couple of holsters I've bought from Ebay recently to go with my growing collection of handguns. Shame there only replica pistols. Have just been given free another 3 pistols, early models together with a replica Colt 1855 ( Revolver Rifle). What a corker that is too.

I never saw Matt Dillon or John Wayne eat spaghetti.

Not a Spaghetti Western revolver......but a Pedersoli copy of an 1884 Colt Lightening slide action rifle Colt Lightning Carbine - Wikipedia Fun to shoot, and gets some attention at the range.

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I want a SAA and a Winchester 73

What’s not to love on the movies or the guns? Here’s my Taylor’s Smokewagon, by Uberti. She shoots and handles as good as she looks. Not quite Claudia Cardinale, but you get the idea.

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Pretty rifle.

Thanks for sharing it.

P.S. Obviously not a revolver, but still a "Spaghetti Western". 🙂

Yes, you should stop thinking about moving to the United States and do it.

Not trying to be disrespectful to Great Britain...but it seems obvious from both your membership and two posts on this thread that you really do belong on this side of The Pond.

But you have to promise to learn to drive on the correct side of the roadways. 🙂

Another Italian gun manufacturer that was in the business a long time is Armi San Marcos.

From the late 60's to the early 80's there were about 10 makers in Italy. Some only made Western reproes for a year, others several years. The company name is often not on the gun but, the proof marks always tell the truth. I have about 10 Cab & Ball revolvers and I'm down to 8 cartridge revolvers from Italy.

My advice in general is avoid any reproduction with a brass frame! There are exceptions with Cap & Ball guns with original brass frames! But if the company couldn't handle soft steel for machining, their heat treating is very suspect!

Dry firing is common by the uneducated, so C&B nipples get smashed! Getting the correct metric thread pattern is sometimes a problem, but often the rest of the gun is in good shape. I keep every pattern I know of in 6's for just such an occasion!

If the inside of the barrel is pitted, FREE IS TOO EXPENSIVE! Unless you are making it a wall hanger.

Most 44 cal C&B will hold 40 grains of FFg Black Powder. Plan on accuracy being 18 to 25 grains! Walkers will hold over 55 grains and some up to 70, 40 grains have been the more accurate loads. Dragoons hold more and 1861 ARMYs but less than Walkers.

There are several diameters of 44 caliber round balls; .451, .454. and .457 are the most common. I only buy .457"! When they get seated in the cylinder they will get shaved to the proper diameter anyway! They may weigh 5 grains more and have a few thousandths more bearing surface, it won't matter unless you use a smokeless powder! They will probably be a hair more accurate. On the other hand, too small of bullet is never accurate!

NEVER allow there to be a gap between the powder and the ball!

ALWAYS have some form of lube over the ball (or lubed felt wads right below the ball, to prevent Chain Fire! and the lube softens the powder fouling. (I like Ox Yoke brand lubed felt wads. or Crisco for lube on cool days)

These guns were made to be shot, so enjoy yourself!

Ivan

Love spaghetti and spaghetti westerns never gets old.

I don't have any Italian cowboy guns, but my favorite spaghetti western movie is Once Upon a Time in the West.

Here you go...

Huge fan of the Remingtons. I have a 44 BP remington and it is excellent. Sold a Colt to get it.

Yes, it is a pretty rifle. The picture does not do the wood and color case hardening justice. The only rifle that my wife said I should buy, she thought it was pretty too.

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All of my SASS guns are Spaghetti Western......the only execption is if I choose to use my grandfathers 1897 Winchester shotgun.

2 sets of 1873 Uberti .357 mag revolvers
2 sets of 44-40 1873 Uberti revolvers
2 sets of 1860 Reproduction Colt Cap and Ball revolvers
1 Uberti 1873 Rifle in 44-40
1 Uberti 1873 Rifle in .38 Spl.
1 Navy arms copy of an 1866 carbine in .38 spl.

So, you can see, I like them. Rarely give any problems....they just just keep on delivering form me.

Randy

Randy,

When you say two sets, do you mean two pair?

Kevin

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Yes, 2 pair as in one pair being 5.1/2 in bbl and another pair that are 7 1/2 in bbl.

This for both my .357 mag. revolvers as well as my 44-40 revolvers.

Randy

Randy, you have your own "Lee Van Cleef" Arms Room of Spaghetti Westerns going on there. 🙂

Got any pics?

Agreed, but it's one of my all time favorite Westerns too, no matter where it was made.

The scene where McBain's youngest comes out of the house to find father, brother, and sweet Maureen shot down by Frank's gunmen is just great filmmaking, Italian or not.

"What do you want to do about the kid Frank "?

"Well...now that you've called me by name..."

🙂

I've always liked westerns and the guns they feature. Unfortunately, the traditional SAA plow handle grip just doesn't get along with my banged up old hands.
I do have a Navy Arms/Uberti Schofield clone that I like. There's enough difference in the shape of the grip that it doesn't bang my knuckles like a SAA.
I've been considering the Remington clones for years and want to give one a try. Just haven't come across one for sale around here.

Those spaghetti westerns have some quirky characteristics though . All of the guns have that same weird sound . And the landscape is strange too .

You mean the standard Italian dubbed "pocka-weeeeee" ricochet sound, or the weird Italian dubbed "clickita-clickita" cocking sound?

🙂

Will the replica six shooters shoot for hour and a half without reloading?

Only in the movies. No auto pistol will shoot that long either.

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Here are my contributions. Both are Piettas. One is an 1860 Army and the other is an 1873 replica. I believe they look very nice.
Larry

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If you ask Alec Baldwin, they'll shoot without being loaded in the first place. 🙂

There are a few spaghetti westerns that I'm not crazy about but, for the most part, I love them.

As for that Remington replica, I will argue until I am blue in the face that the Remington 1875 is by far THE BEST LOOKING REVOLVER ever made!

Gorgeous gun you got there!!! Envious, Yoda is!!!

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Thanks for the kind words.

Don't want you to get blue in the face, but I think a pre war Registered Magnum is a pretty delightful looking revolver too.

But I can't afford one of those at the moment. 🙂

I can however provide you with another peek...

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I seem to remember being able to buy a special cylinder that would adapt to the BP Remington 44 which would enable it to chamber and fire 44-40 cartridges. Anybody have one?

That won’t work. The bore on the Remington is .451 or so. The bullet in the .44-40 is currently, .429. Lots of blow by, leading and inaccuracy. There have been cylinders bored to accept the 45 long Colt cartridge.

The pair of revolvers I post now,



are cut for the modern 44 Colt with .430 bore. I load them with a 200 grain RNFP cast bullet and as much 3f as I can fit in the case. They are fun to shoot and fairly accurate.

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I have a Ruger Old Army that has been fitted with a .45 Colt cylinder. As posted above, you can get a .45 Colt cylinder for most Remington STEEL framed percussion replica revolvers.

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S&W made a lot of gorgeous guns. I even have a few and I used to have many more. Still, just to repeat myself, nobody has ever made a gun as pretty as the 1875 Remington.

That includes the Colt SAA, and and all S&W Hand Ejectors, any Korth, any Ruger, any Manurhin, etc. Of course, the Remington Model 1858 comes close, as it should since it is the prdecessor to the 1875.

The S&W PC 986 tried to get there but it was just not to be.

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