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On my list, was just looking at those the other night.
I love my Uberti's, here's my meager collection of SAA's so far.
T to B:
Rare Baretta Uberti, smoaked nickle.
Uberti Cattlemen, case hardened, brass and blued.
Ruger Vaquero, bright stainless.
Uberti Cimarron, case hardened and blued.
A common misconception is Uberti uses a chemical case hardening, but they don't, in fact, they use heat treated hardening.
The Cimarron Uberti's has the nicest action of the bunch, it still retains the 4 click Colt style hammer new Ubertis abandoned.
All 45LC
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Are you certain that Uberti uses actual color case hardening? I assumed everyone has been using the fake colors.
I have two Uberti SAAs, one in 45 Colt, the other in 44 WCF. Both have the 4 click hammers. I'll try to post pictures later.
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Are you certain that Uberti uses actual color case hardening? I assumed everyone has been using the fake colors.
I have two Uberti SAAs, one in 45 Colt, the other in 44 WCF. Both have the 4 click hammers. I'll try to post pictures later.
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Yep, watched a special on Uberti and how they were made. I assumed the same because my brother told me, but he was wrong.
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I’ve heard these Ubertis bind up with black powder (design differed from originals).
Any truth to this?
That combined with all the horror stories of awful customer service (I’ve had bad from Uberti myself in fact) plus lousy QC make this a hard ask for the $$$ these command.
But they’re nifty and pretty for sure. I imagine they’re much faster to get back into the fight than a SAA for reloading.
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I would ask on the CAS City forum. (I’ve heard the same thing about black powder but have zero experience with it.)
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Here are pictures of my two Uberti revolvers I mentioned my post #52.
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Black Powder rounds in Uberti revolvers? My pair of No 3 Russians do fine with my loads. Use FFFg and a lube cookie. Have gone 4 cylinders of 5 shots straight in each gun without any problems!
I have friends that shoot BP in SAA clones, a typical match is 30rounds in each handgun. Their load was 357 mag brass, 15 grains FFFg, a 1/4" thick paraffine cookie. and a 158 grain LRN bullet. Firing 5 of these had exhalent accuracy and paraffine dripping from the bore. Go a whole match with not one bit of cleaning or malfunction.
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Anyone else own one? Or Two? Any of the other variants of Number 3?
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Well, you did ask.
I've wanted one of them for years, but just not bad enough to actually spend the money for one. Still, I liked the look and the feel.
Then a couple of years ago, during the Covid shutdown, I found one I was willing to spring for. It came from Pyramyd Air, and shoots BB pellets and CO2 cartridges. I was bored when I ordered it, and it helped that it could be shipped right to me at home. The CO2 cartridge goes under the grips, the BB's load into a brass cartridge. The gun works just like the real thing. Opening the action slowly lifts the "spent" cartridges. A good snap, will eject them.
Made by Barra it's all metal (of some kind) except for the stocks. Weight is about 2 pounds. The trigger is surprisingly good. I've never actually fired it though, having bought it simply as a "prop"; a gun I'd like to have but knew I'd never actually buy.
They're also available with a 7" barrel, and with a "nickel" finish. Sort of fun for a 100-130.00 depending on barrel length and finish. If I still lived "up nawth" out in the country, it would be one of my "bumming around guns."
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Well, you did ask.
I've wanted one of them for years, but just not bad enough to actually spend the money for one. Still, I liked the look and the feel.
Then a couple of years ago, during the Covid shutdown, I found one I was willing to spring for. It came from Pyramyd Air, and shoots BB pellets and CO2 cartridges. I was bored when I ordered it, and it helped that it could be shipped right to me at home. The CO2 cartridge goes under the grips, the BB's load into a brass cartridge. The gun works just like the real thing. Opening the action slowly lifts the "spent" cartridges. A good snap, will eject them.
Made by Barra it's all metal (of some kind) except for the stocks. Weight is about 2 pounds. The trigger is surprisingly good. I've never actually fired it though, having bought it simply as a "prop"; a gun I'd like to have but knew I'd never actually buy.
They're also available with a 7" barrel, and with a "nickel" finish. Sort of fun for a 100-130.00 depending on barrel length and finish. If I still lived "up nawth" out in the country, it would be one of my "bumming around guns."
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Your pictures and description fits my Umarex exactly.
Do your brass cartridges have a silicon-rubber nose (bullet) that you insert the BBs into?
If so it sounds like we both have the same toy.
FWIW, it seems to shoot flatter and more accurately (maybe higher FPS) than my Sig P365 replica.
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Yep. Same deal on the "bullets". I suspect they're the same gun, no matter what name is on them.
I've got a half dozen of these things and have never fired any of them. I've got a Colt SAA, an M&P semi, a 45 auto, and a Thompson M1A1. Might be one or two more around. Oh...Duhhhhh Two "Model 29's. An 8 3/8", and a 3 1/2".
A cheap "collection."
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The frame reminds me a bit of a Bisley. Anyone find them to be Busley like when they are shooting them
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Owned a Baretta made Umberti once. Fine pistol.
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Originally Posted by Glenn R. McMannly
I’ve heard these Ubertis bind up with black powder (design differed from originals).
Any truth to this?
That combined with all the horror stories of awful customer service (I’ve had bad from Uberti myself in fact) plus lousy QC make this a hard ask for the $$$ these command.
But they’re nifty and pretty for sure. I imagine they’re much faster to get back into the fight than a SAA for reloading.
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Yes, the reproductions do not like black powder. When they lengthened the cylinders to accept the 45 Colt and 44 Special it became much easier for the fouling to bind up the cylinder. Both my reproduction Schofield and Russian dislike black powder while my original S&W Russian is more tolerant. It is still not wonderful, more akin to a Remington New Model Army than an old Colt.
Model 3 Russians produced for the domestic commercial market, more or less 140 years ago. So black powder is all it sees.
The seven inch barrel has the standard Smith & Wesson legend in English, not Cyrillic.
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Kind of a mix between a Bisley and a SAA.
It's solid in the hand, but it does roll upward moderately on recoil. Different than the SAA though.
I realize that's ambiguous, but it's a unique to the Schofield feeling.
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Kind of a mix between a Bisley and a SAA.
It's solid in the hand, but it does roll upward moderately on recoil. Different than the SAA though.
I realize that's ambiguous, but it's a unique to the Schofield feeling.
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Thanks. I find Bisleys with heavy loads such as in my 454 are not to my liking. I am looking at getting a Schofield but in .38 so I am guessing it will be a little more to my liking
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Thanks. I find Bisleys with heavy loads such as in my 454 are not to my liking. I am looking at getting a Schofield but in .38 so I am guessing it will be a little more to my liking
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Going with 38 Special would work but...the pressure or recoil from 45 Colt "Cowboy Loads" averaging 750-800 fps are not even remotely prohibitive.
They're *****cats coming out of my Schofield and VERY pleasant to shoot.
Just my $.02.
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Got the Schofield out to the range last week. Only fired a few rounds, as I was having some issues with light strikes. I started with a two handed hold off the bench (shooting over my Garmin chronograph)... these are the six shots in the lower grouping. Then I went to a traditional one-hand target stance, and the POI came up to center for all the remaining shots. All shots at 10 yards with a center hold. Pleased with the results considering the imprecise nature of these sights. Now I just need to deal with the light strikes.
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I can only give Uberti info from me. They are good guns, well, mine was, but it was a Uberti Cattleman. .45 Colt. Bought it. under $100. I had to file the front sight down to get it to shoot point of aim. But the Uberti treated me well for a while. It's gone...$300!
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I can only give Uberti info from me. They are good guns, well, mine was, but it was a Uberti Cattleman. .45 Colt. Bought it. under $100. I had to file the front sight down to get it to shoot point of aim. But the Uberti treated me well for a while. It's gone...$300!
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I had to to the same with an Uberti SSA 32-20 revolver. I think the barrel and sight was same as a 45 Colt except for the hole in the barrel. It was a heavy revolver.
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