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Would you buy an AR 15 build by Red Jacket Firearms
Saw one for sale yesterday on the classified forum of Bayou Shooter and it brought back memories of the sorlid demise of the show with the owner getting several life sentences for rapes of little girls including his daughters. Why would one want a firearm with that provenance???
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The gun did nothing wrong ,many guns have been used in nefarious SP situations don't blame the gun;.
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After watching the show a few times, and seeing how stupid they were in relation to anything gun - I wouldn't buy any kind of gun from them. Not because of what he did in his personal life. I just wouldn't trust it to work.
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11-02-2023, 10:53 AM
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What Alpo posted.
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Never heard of the shop, the brand or the family mess. Ignore.
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You should be able to find a LVP
that can remove any evil spirits
that may exist in that AR.
Tia is based in New Orleans now
and takes medicare clients.
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They were a TV show because they're a gang of knuckleheads and weirdos, not in spite of it. No one would watch if it was a bunch of straight laced engineer types that drank milk with lunch and went to bed at 9pm every night.
No interest in their guns. I'd always wanted a Shootrite Katana (minimalist pencil barrel carbine), but when I found out that most of them had actually been built by Red Jacket, I ended up building my own similar rifle.
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Criminal activities of the cast aside, the impression I had of what they were "building" was that their guns were, at best, nothing special.
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I also have to agree with Alpo.
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I wouldn't go out of my way....
....to buy one. I'd rather 'build' it myself. The personal and 'reality' stuff on the show was stupid. I liked learning about guns, but that was it. 'Red Jacket' made and sold all kinds of guns. I don't know why any individual gun would hold a stigma.
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I remember that show. It was terrible. Did a disservice to the firearm industry and legitimate gun owners
Watched maybe 2 or 3 episodes  No I would not buy a gun made by them,
Then there was the other BS show with the young daughter that people perved over, and the guy delivered suitcases of money via helicopter.
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I hadn't even thought about Red Jacket for many years. When I saw the mention, I had to stop for a minute to search my memory bank. I wasn't a regular viewer. I remember the series with the hot young daughter (Paige Wyatt), but very little about it, not even its name (American Guns).
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I think the consensus is no...............
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Was that the jerk who did a resto on an Arisaka Type 38 and clearly had no/zero/zilch idea about what he was doing? He downloaded some 6.5 ammo because "You have to watch out with these old, foreign guns". Oh yes, that's right, the Type 38 was the one that P O Ackley rechambered to 30-06 but left a 6.5 barrel on it by accident. Recoil was unexpectedly sharp for some reason  , but the gun suffered no ill effects.
Then this joker was trying to close the bolt on an empty chamber with the trigger pulled. First thing you learn about handling an Arisaka is "Don't try decocking while closing the bolt like you would on a Mauser, the gun will probably lock up". The Arisaka uses a wonderfully simplified bolt compared to the Mauser and must be operated differently.
So, based on what I saw on that one show, would I buy an AR-15 (60k PSI NATO ammo, anyone?) built by these jokers? Nope.
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Short answer: NO. I wouldn't buy their builds; there are too many higher quality options available on the market.
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I remember that show. They treated their top gunsmith like ****, then smacked talk him when he left. Treated the idiot with favoritism. Will got the shop into to many problems because he couldn’t say no to any business ventures. Then the show disappeared. Found out later why. But the owner was extremely unpleasant to watch. I know a guy that claims to work for them.
No, I wouldn’t buy a rifle from them
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I hadn't even thought about Red Jacket for many years. When I saw the mention, I had to stop for a minute to search my memory bank. I wasn't a regular viewer. I remember the series with the hot young daughter but very little about it, not even its name.
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The latter involved the Wyatt family. They even got S & W to make a DAO model 637 with their logo on it.
Edit to add: Gunsmoke Guns and the show American Guns.
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The latter involved the Wyatt family. They even got S & W to make a DAO model 637 with their logo on it.
Edit to add: Gunsmoke Guns and the show American Guns.
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The network required the wife and daughter to dress like trollops for the ratings.
I've heard that the Gunsmoke 637 is a fine piece but I wouldn't pay extra for one.
The engraving in that show was pretty laughable. It was all same-depth stuff and little more than stylized dog tag level work. Maybe it impressed non-gun people, but not me.
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Saw one for sale yesterday on the classified forum of Bayou Shooter and it brought back memories of the sorlid demise of the show with the owner getting several life sentences for rapes of little girls including his daughters. Why would one want a firearm with that provenance???
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The same kind of people who want guns that killed cops, or family members.
A guy I knew casually awhile ago, was driving a Mustang GT, and one day made a comment "This is the car my kid did himself in"
Someone later told me ( when I questioned the comment) his son shot himself in the head in the drivers seat. They told me he still had the gun too.
There are strange people in this world, that's why.
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If it’s cheap, why not buy it? I’ve owned guns that were used by various totalitarian govts - against the US. I’m sure lots of us have
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The latter involved the Wyatt family. They even got S & W to make a DAO model 637 with their logo on it.
Edit to add: Gunsmoke Guns and the show American Guns.
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Both mom and daughter were clearly into "upper body augmentation". I think the guy went to jail IIRC.
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The same kind of people who want guns that killed cops, or family members.
A guy I knew once casually was driving a Mustang GT, and one day made a comment "This is the car my kid did himself in"
Someone later told me ( when I questioned the comment) his son shot himself in the head in the drivers seat. They told me he still had the gun too.
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Former coworker kept the gun his wife used to commit suicide because of her apparently untreatable migraines. His comment when asked was something along the lines of "The gun didn't take itself out of the drawer".
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I attempted to watch second-rate gun programs some time ago and very quickly found out they are mostly unedited, unprofessional, and generally a waste of time.
Getting back to the subject, if you have no interest in ever trading or selling, the AR copies may be worth having. They may function well and may be quite accurate. However, consider spending a little more and buying something of known quality that will hold value and be desirable to others if you think you might part with the gun someday.
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The latter involved the Wyatt family. They even got S & W to make a DAO model 637 with their logo on it.
Edit to add: Gunsmoke Guns and the show American Guns.
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I was in that store a few time before they became teevee stars.He got crosswise with the law too
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The History Channel Gun Shows were all BS, as well as the Ginseng program and the one about the store in the swamp. Matter of fact I could go on and on about History Channel shows. They were all the same, the subject matter was soon offset by staged drama and such. The kind of stuff dim wits like.
The gun programs were no good will messengers to the public.
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I saw one episode where he tried to thread a barrel with a plain old die set. Silencer screwed on pretty crooked. They tossed the barrel.
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I'm sure it was like every other reality TV show, heavily scripted to create drama and excitement. Being a firearms oriented show, make them look like morons too. Nothing like a little negative image creation to get TV viewers onto the side of the anti-2A crowd.
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Sons of Guns and Red Jacket Firearms were back when the History channel ruined itself with “reality” TV shows like that one.
I ranked it right down here with Orange County Choppers. In both cases they presented an abusive muscle headed owner that was supposed to keep the show interesting.
I still cringe very time I hear the phrase “it’s going to be a real game changer”.
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There was one show on a few years back - I think it was "Top Shot"? A weekly one hour show that pitted a half dozen competitors against each other for score with a large and unpredictable series of guns & weapons in a variety of clever challenges.
It was interesting to watch, and thought it was one of the better produced shooting reality shows.
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With TV shows, "reality" generally means "loser", but apparently many like such shows.
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I own a Red Jacket AR-15 . It functions as well as any other that I've used . I toured the shop and talked with a couple of the guys . The old perv had nothing to do with the builds .
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Another Discovery Channel flop was American Guns. I soon realized it was more about the Wyatt women than guns.
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Never heard the discouraging word, nor saw hide nor hair of them... Thankfully!
Cheers!
P.S. I guess that means "Nope!"
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