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Remington model 25R 32wcf
I have an affinity for most things 32-20. I’ve acquired quite a few S&W target 32-20’s and a few rifles. The rifles are a model 92src, Winchester high-wall, #2 RB and a Savage 23c. But no pump action rifle a void in the collection that needed to be filled. I been on the lookout for colt lightning( had one stupidly traded it) l, Marlin 27 or a Remington model 25. An auction that I found online had all 3 in their lineup. To my surprise I won the 25R!!!
Remington made about 33000 model 25’s from 1923-1935 with about 10% being the 25r carbines. The carbines have an 18in barrel,hold 6 rounds and weigh 4.5Lbs. This one was made in April of 1925.
It did not feed correctly when it arrived home. So had to find the factory manual on eBay. After disassembling ,a detailed cleaning, tightening all of the screws and adjusting cartridge stop screw tension. It feeds slicker than s@$& thru a goose.
Now if it would just get above 30 degrees and the snow would melt. I could go shooting. I don’t want to risk loosing a brass in the snow.
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Very nice!
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I had one in 32 WCF for a few years. Mine was in 95% condition or above. Some snooping got me a Lyman folding peep sight for it as well. I shot a mule deer and an antelope with it before I got bored with it and sent it away. Every time I feel I am smart, I remember selling this rifle and become humble again.
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I had one in 32 WCF for a few years. Mine was in 95% condition or above. Some snooping got me a Lyman folding peep sight for it as well. I shot a mule deer and an antelope with it before I got bored with it and sent it away. Every time I feel I am smart, I remember selling this rifle and become humble again.
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I feel the same way about the Colt!!! What load did you use to take the deer and the the antelope?
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0P, where in the guts is the cartridge stop screw? I am a big fan of old Remington rifles, and own two model 25s. One in .25-20 and one in .32-20. One has a tang peep and red bead front sight, the other has a 4 leaf King rear sight and triple bead front sight.
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That is a nice rifle.
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0P, where in the guts is the cartridge stop screw? I am a big fan of old Remington rifles, and own two model 25s. One in .25-20 and one in .32-20. One has a tang peep and red bead front sight, the other has a 4 leaf King rear sight and triple bead front sight.
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The rectangular piece of metal in left side of the frame is the cartridge stop. The tiny screw in the front left side of the frame is the cartridge stop screw. When the screw was tightened down it caused the cartridge stop to not move freely. Throwing off timing of the action bar. I also had to adjust and tighten the cartridge dog spring and screw in the action bar(circled in red). Everything has to be just right to get it to feed smoothly.
There is very little information out there about these neat little rifles. One thing that seems consistent is that the cartridge dog spring breaks. Causing feed issues and jams. I was fortunate enough to find a complete action on eBay. I did put purple loctite on the spring screw to keep it tight. As simple as Brownings designs are Peterson seems to be intricate and complicated.
I’d love pictures of everyone’s model 25’s.
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I feel the same way about the Colt!!! What load did you use to take the deer and the the antelope?
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Owning and shooting/hunting with that particular rifle was 30+ years and 100 guns ago. I don't remember what powder charge I used but I do recall the bullets very bulk factory 100 grain Remington jacketed flat nose with a generous amount of exposed lead at the tip. The antelope was a spine/neck shot and went down instantly, the mule deer was a doe during doe season and was a broadside lung shot at @75 yards IIRC. I know she was not at all impressed with the killing power of the little round and it took some tracking to find her.
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I looked for a good m25 in 32/20 or 25/20 for years. Looked at many never found one in acceptable condition. I wish I had bought them anyway for the price they are bringing. Equally hard to find are the Marlin pumps in CF cartridges. The Marlin is even more of a PIA to work on.
I had small collection of 14 & 141s which is one of my top 3 favorites for eastern woods. A smoother pump action than old Remingtons has not been built. Those newer guns after WW2 went from bad to worse.
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DWH, thanks much for the info and photos on the model 25 inner workings. One of mine is very “ratchety” when cycling. I now have a good idea on how to make some adjustments etc. I will post up some photos on this thread once I return home from a trip.
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That's a good looking Model 25. I've picked up a few .32-20's over the years in pawn shops but a Model 25 has evaded me. Maybe one will show up one day.
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As promised, here are some photos of my 2 Model 25s. They are rifles and not the rarer carbine version.
The King rear sight has a removable square leaf that can be rotated in one of for different positions affording different sight notches, i.e. “v”, “u”, “U”, “straight”.
The triple bead front sight can be rotated to display an ivory bead (shown), a small silver bead or a large silver bead.
The other rifle is fitted with a Lyman tang sight and red bead front sight.
Back in the day you could order these type of sight options at a cost. Whether my guns came this way from the factory, I’ll never know, as the records were never kept by Remington. I will assume they were, as it makes me feel better, ha.
One was bought here locally near Ilion and the other came from Colorado. I have not come across any 25s in my years of searching that have the high original condition of these two.
At one point my collection centered around high condition pre 1950 Remington rifles (and model 51 pistols), but currently my interests go towards Smiths and Colts.
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A couple of photos of the instruction manual. A bit interesting that Remington advertised this rifle adequate up to deer sized game. I have an old ad stating that also.
The instructions also state that the rifle will operate perfectly fine with “shortened” cartridges, most likely caused by light crimps causing the bullets to seat deeper while compressed in a tubular magazine.
Can someone rotate these images? I have no idea why they get published that way, or how to correct it. Thanks.
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WOW! Those are amazing. You are correct it’s very hard to find those in that condition. It’s hard to find any depression era guns that condition. I suppose the were to busy putting food on the table. Thanks for sharing!
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A couple of photos of the instruction manual. A bit interesting that Remington advertised this rifle adequate up to deer sized game. I have an old ad stating that also.
The instructions also state that the rifle will operate perfectly fine with “shortened” cartridges, most likely caused by light crimps causing the bullets to seat deeper while compressed in a tubular magazine.
Can someone rotate these images? I have no idea why they get published that way, or how to correct it. Thanks.
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Lots of true hunters have taken deer with the .32-20. Get in close and it has adequate power.
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