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Old 02-17-2024, 05:24 PM
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AJ, I said it cycles properly but what I should have said is it fires properly but feels to extract sporadically with the light 115 grain ammo.

I've run some heavier loads through it and now going back to the 115s it seems to be better. Again, this is a new gun right out of the box. Hopefully it loosens up and extracts everything I feed it but if not I'll just experiment with a lighter recoil spring. Thank you by the way. The help here on this form is just amazing.
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Old 02-17-2024, 05:38 PM
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HUH? I thought it wasn't extracting? A gun that malfunctions in any way is not cycling for me.
Just seeing if you were paying attention!
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HUH? I thought it wasn't extracting? A gun that malfunctions in any way is not cycling for me.
If it is not extracting, then take the extractor out and examine it and if fine then clean it and try again...
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I keep toying with the idea of a 9mm 1911, but every time I do I peek in the safe and realize I have a bunch of single action 9s -- a Beretta 1951, BHP, Sig 210, Star BM (it's Commnader sized), and a Star Super B.

As I'm not going to carry a 1911 (too many other, better choices) about the only things missing between it and the others is the panache and the grip safety. The Sig has a great trigger right out of the box, the Browning had a bunch of trigger work done on it and it's slick, and the Stars are a fun shoot.

So any time the urge really grips me, I buy some ammo with the money and go blasting with the "alternatives." Besides, if I really want to shoot a 9 1911 I can always try to reclaim the Taurus I "loaned" my oldest (good luck to that!). (And even that had the grip safety disabled.)

Still, it would be nice......
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Your extractor may need to be tweaked a little. Easy to do. Videos on You Tube.

I don't recommend lightening the springs unless you're using light handloads all the time. Going to lighter springs with factory ammo will cause excessive battering to the frame and you'll be chasing brass into the next county.
If I change springs in a 1911, I always go 2 or 2.5 pounds heavier. Never lighter.
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Your extractor may need to be tweaked a little. Easy to do. Videos on You Tube.

I don't recommend lightening the springs unless you're using light handloads all the time. Going to lighter springs with factory ammo will cause excessive battering to the frame and you'll be chasing brass into the next county.
If I change springs in a 1911, I always go 2 or 2.5 pounds heavier. Never lighter.
This why you put in a buffer if you use lighter springs. That is what I mentioned before.

Had a bullseye Colt M1911 in .45 ACP. I used 3.0 grains of Bullseye with a 185 grain SWC. It would not cycle with a 16 # spring. Had to use a 12 # spring and a buffer to protect the frame.
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My 9mm 1911 is an STI "Trojan" with 5" barrel

I purchased mine a few years back with box/papers for $1,150

Nice gun and very reliable/accurate
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I've had a Colt Commander for about 8 years. In my experience, it is very dependant on magazines that actually work. I have the original two it came with and then about 6 Wilson Combat magazines. They have not been 100% though frankly. It is not in my opinion reliable enough for carry but is still a lot of fun at the range. But I have not extensively shot enough carry ammo through it and the range ammo (I prefer Blazer Brass 124 grain) is what I am primarily basing my opinion on.
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I've had a Colt Commander for about 8 years. In my experience, it is very dependant on magazines that actually work. I have the original two it came with and then about 6 Wilson Combat magazines. They have not been 100% though frankly. It is not in my opinion reliable enough for carry but is still a lot of fun at the range. But I have not extensively shot enough carry ammo through it and the range ammo (I prefer Blazer Brass 124 grain) is what I am primarily basing my opinion on.
I would have a gunsmith (a real one not the parts changers that most stores have) look at it. I have had magazines that did not work, and trashed them. But with good magazines the M1911 platform is completely reliable.
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Sorry you did all your due diligence and still got a gun that doesn’t function 100%.

I didn’t recommend this gun earlier because you specified a 1911, but a Sig P210 American fits your bill otherwise. Single stack, single action, all metal, completely reliable, and outstandingly accurate. At full MSRP it is more than your budget, but you won’t have to spend a fortune on factory ammo to find one that will work. They will all work. Used ones can be found with some looking.

I found this carry version for under $1000, used but with everything. I have 1200 rounds through it with not a single failure of any kind.

Sorry for the drift, but there is something to be said for a gun using the cartridge for which it was designed.

I bet once the Springfield is broken in it will be great.
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I would buy a Colt, preferably an original Series 70 or earlier , they had no MIM cast parts in them. And I would buy a .38 super and handload for it that makes it as cheap to shoot as the 9mm and you have more power.

Another option is the .357 Sig (its a necked down .40 S&W) and probably not available in a Colt but in many other pistols like the Sig 1911.
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I guess I'm still old school. my 1911's are 45ACP....My Chip McCormick .45 I've had for decades, great pistol and, very accurate. My .45 carry is a STI Spartan III that I've carried for years. No issues, guess I'll just stick with .45 for the 1911.
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YOU SIMPLY CAN NOT GO WRONG WITH SPRINGFIELD ARMORY PRODUCTS!!!
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I had to send my 9mm Ronin in. It wouldn't shoot smaller than about 6" at 10 feet. They put a new barrel in it and crowned it nicely. I haven't shot it to check the accuracy again.

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I had to send my 9mm Ronin in. It wouldn't shoot smaller than about 6" at 10 feet. They put a new barrel in it and crowned it nicely. I haven't shot it to check the accuracy again.

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I've owned both the 5" and 4.25" Ronins in 9mm as well as a Dan Wesson Vigil 4.25" 9mm. They all were great, fun pistols without any issues. I just prefer 5" and 4.25" steel 1911s in .45acp.

Now having said that one of the best deals I got was last summer, a pre-owned but unfired Springfield RO Compact in 9mm from 2015. After shooting it I swapped the rear sight to the one from the Ronin, threw on some grip tape on the frontstrap and just keep on shooting. It's also my warm weather edc. The pistol has been 100% reliable and accurate with every ammo type I've tried. It disappears under a t-shirt, love it.

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Its been a few days BHF, has the issue improved? As for springs, as mentioned above, Wolff springs sells a calibration pack with 3 spring weights so you could dial it in that way. I'm not a fan of 115 grn 9mm. My go to is 124 or 147 for practice. Although my carry ammo is light for caliber, high speed Underwood Xtreme defense ammo.
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I would buy a Colt, preferably an original Series 70 or earlier , they had no MIM cast parts in them. .
I think people get too hung up on MIM parts. Yes the S&W hammers and triggers don't look as nice as the old color case hardened ones but they seem to be working well. As for MIM in the 1911's, Kimber's early issues with some bad MIM parts that they used anyway has jaded a lot of folks against MIM. Myself, I would rather have a good quality MIM part than a poorly made machined one.


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I'm kind of partial to the EMP, in large part because it is scaled around the 9mm. The standard 1911 is scaled around the 45ACP, and the Super 38 works well because of the size, too. Some folks have had to do some work to get the 1911 to work well with 9mm.
I’m also an EMP fan. The way it’s scaled to the 9 mm just “works”. One of my favorites
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