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What is the gun with the best trigger out of the box?
What is the gun with the best trigger out of the box? Some say the Canik tp9. What's your take? Thanks, Bernie
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Kind of a broad question. I vote 1911.
However, with the latest greatest polymer framed guns, I hear H & K P30/VP 9, and the later Walthers, but I have not tried either personally.
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My Wilson Combat Beretta 92 Centurion.
My S&W 3rd Gen guns from the Performance Center.
Economy guns vs Factory vs Custom built guns makes it an open ended question.
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Not a well thought out question. Not much different than asking "what's the best gun?" Rifle, shotgun, handgun triggers?
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My Dan Wesson 15-2VH6 has a wonderful trigger.
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Anschutz 1827 Biathlon rifles.
Biathlon Models - Anschutz North America
You do pay for it though.
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I've had some 586/686 revolvers that were outstanding trigger pull wise right out of the box.
But it is a rather broad question.
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I’d say the the new Colt Cobra and King Cobras for revolvers and in general Springfield, Kimber and Colt 1911’s are very good straight out of the box. Polymer, no idea. The new Colt Pythons have excellent double action triggers too.
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The best trigger out of the box I've had is an older model Sig 229. It's also my most accurate handgun. The Canik the OP indicated would be a close second though. That trigger is just good right from the start.
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Dan Wesson Specialist 45 acp 1911.
Trigger felt great right from the factory.
Have never felt the need to adjust it.
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broad question...
SIG 210 (but the older ones, swiss made) for SA-triggers
H&K SFP9 for striker fired ones
S&W M27-2 1978 (personal preference)
you will get lots of different answers
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Originally Posted by Daimler1989
broad question...
SIG 210 (but the older ones, swiss made) for SA-triggers
H&K SFP9 for striker fired ones
S&W M27-2 1978 (personal preference)
you will get lots of different answers
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I'll second the comment regarding the Swiss P210's. Wonderful trigger pull as shipped!!
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To add to the confusion..................
CZ rifles with their Single set triggers... Model 453,527 and 550s
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For a revo, the 686-6 has a wonderful stock trigger. It’s MIM; so I don’t know how much it can be improved, but it is smooth and crisp, as is.
I’ll defer to others, regarding semis, but most 1911’s seem to have decent triggers, from the factory.
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Strange question to ask on this site. I thought that everyone knew that the best out-of-the-box trigger pull was the SA trigger pull on an S&W revolver, particularly an older one. Of course, some Colt SA trigger pulls were OK, but their DA was considered by most to be quite inferior. Also, Colt and High Standard were certainly competitive in .22LR, as were a few H&R pistols and some furrin offerings.
Was your question pointed in a slightly different direction from what I understand?
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You're right!
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Not a well thought out question. Not much different than asking "what's the best gun?" Rifle, shotgun, handgun triggers?
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You are exactly right, kind of did this off the top of my head, did get some interesting replies though.
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Dan Wesson Specialist 45 acp 1911.
Trigger felt great right from the factory.
Have never felt the need to adjust it.
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I have a Specialist in 9mm. Before I retired I was a Dan Wesson dealer, and every single gun they sent me had an amazing trigger.
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S&W 27-2
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broad question...
SIG 210 (but the older ones, swiss made) for SA-triggers
H&K SFP9 for striker fired ones
S&W M27-2 1978 (personal preference)
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I have a S&W 27-2 and it has the (lightest-best) single action trigger I have ever shot. Guessing 1 to 2 lb pull. Mine was also shipped in the summer of 1978,
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Strange question to ask on this site. I thought that everyone knew that the best out-of-the-box trigger pull was the SA trigger pull on an S&W revolver, particularly an older one. Of course, some Colt SA trigger pulls were OK, but their DA was considered by most to be quite inferior. Also, Colt and High Standard were certainly competitive in .22LR, as were a few H&R pistols and some furrin offerings.
Was your question pointed in a slightly different direction from what I understand?
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I have a S&W 27-2 shipped in 1978 & it's the best trigger I have ever shot. My model 10-5 is pretty good but nothing I have ever shot comes close to the 27-2
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SIG P210s made at Neuhausen. Nothing else comes close as far as a production gun. And that is a good accomplishment for a company to make a pistol with 1.5 inch accuracy at 50 meters along with military reliability. There may be some custom gunsmith jobs that might match the Neuhausen P210s, but they are few and far between and not at all "combat reliable," most being sensitive to grime, grit, a small piece of sand, etc.
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Top pistol triggers in my safe are a Star BM, all my Grand Powers (hammer and striker fired), and a Canik.
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Les Bair custom carry is the best I have had out of the box.
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My M&P 4" 10mm has the best trigger of any striker fired gun I've ever tried but Walther is pretty close. Almost any pre lock Smith K frame and up that I've owned has a great SA trigger and most have a good to excellent DA trigger. My Springfield Mil Spec .45 has a really great trigger, the rest of my guns have decent to OK triggers but my Browning MK III HP has the worst trigger.
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My American made Sig P210 Carry is fantastic in both the trigger pull and accuracy departments.
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For a revolver, My Python that was worked on by Austin Behlert.
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This is my 27-2.
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Nor me, but I workout my trigger fingers with an 1895 Nagant and an Enfield No.2.
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Bought one of the current generation SIG P210s and it breaks really crisp at about 2#...
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If you like a longer, glassy smooth, non-stacking trigger with a clean break, that needs no work out of the box: Kahr.
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Tanfoglio Witness in single action are pretty good.
High Standard semi pistols too.
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Here are two of my votes for “best:” S&W Model 41, S&W 52. There may be equals, but hard to better these IMHO.
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Sig Sauer P226 SRT
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I know this is an 'other brand' thread....
....but I've mostly got S&Ws. I will talk about my 'other brand' guns.
I have mostly 'affordable' guns. Meaning I'm not likely to get a jewel right out of the box. HOWEVER. Most all my guns are pre-owned and have had to do work on some to improve them but I don't know what the prior owner did for sure in any case. The exception to this is my 686 that was very slightly used. It has a FANTASTIC trigger. I won't let anybody do a 'trigger job' on it because I'd be afraid that they would mess it up. I don't believe that it could be improved without blowing on it to make it fire.
Another good one is my DA/SA 5903. Yowie it is NICE.
My Mosin and SKS have terrible triggers, but that's what they are and would definitely need a lot of work. My Henry .22 has a rather hard trigger, but otherwise good.
The Colt .38 S&W New Police revolver has an OK trigger, nothing to write home about.
Of the two ARs I built one has a hard trigger (basic trigger components from Palmetto State Armory) and the other has a 'better' trigger (Daniel Defense parts). Neither one is really 'good'.
The Keltec pistol has a decent trigger for a DA gun and the Keltec carbine has a pretty bad trigger but it is what it is.
Something I've seen written a lot that I agree with is that the S&W Shield series has a great trigger for a DA pistol. My Sig is DA and the trigger is LONG but SMOOTH as is my 5943. My S&W models 36 and 10 both have very good triggers but not as good as my 686.
My Ruger carbine has a hard but decent trigger.
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From the moment I opened the box for the first time and every time I pull the trigger today. Both double and single action are an extension of my mind. It points naturally as pointing my finger.
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without question, as far as what I own; S&W model 41!
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I bought it used, and suspect someone had it worked on.
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Sorry guys, the “winner” is the Hämmerli Free Pistol.
Here’s the model 106, with five lever transmission set “hair” trigger.
It’s adjustable for trigger weight of anywhere from 100 to 5 grams. That’s a little less than a quarter pound down to 0.18 of an ounce.
Trigger shoe position adjustable for length, angle, and axis rotation.
Free Pistol is no longer an Olympic event. But, over the event’s history, no pistol has been used to win more medals, and more “clean sweeps” (taking Gold, Silver and Bronze all in one game) than the Hämmerli 100 series.
This particular Hämmerli has the very rare Reiny Ruess Mirror Sight. Only about 50 made. They were given initial approval by the UIT but then quickly banned as an optical sight.
The front sight is a parabolic mirror whose focal length is equal to the sight radius. The rear sight image is projected on to the mirror, then you focus towards the 50 meter target, putting sights and target both into sharp focus.
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There is a difference between light and crisp!
I have two Savage "BA" series Sniper rifles with Accu Triggers. The instructions and specifications for both say 4 pounds, out of the box the 10BAS in 308 was 19 ounces and crisp as breaking glass. The 110 BA 338 Lapua came out of the box at 12 ounces, also very crisp. The only handgun anywhere close to these kind of triggers in my expierance are my T/C Contender actions.
I had a few Anshutz target 22's that got into the single digit ounces of trigger pull. Where creep and weight are more of an idea than a real thing! You can buy adapters to put those triggers on other rifles, but often the trigger can cost more than the rifle! They make 10 and 14 inch handguns in 22RF and small centerfire cartridges, when you adjust the trigger that low, unsupported you will most likely misfire. But I commonly see the uninitiated do the same with fine rifles. You can tune the gun for the style of shooting you choose. The trigger may not be light but a proper trigger will always be crisp!
On their field 22 trigger Anschutz comes with a 24-ounce trigger spring, there is a 15-ounce replacement, but it will be mushy without a little tension. That's why I set mine for 19 ounces. The target trigger can be crisp, sometimes, as low as 4 ounces! One rifle I saw that light would go off if you wiggled the rifle too hard! (I still set mine to 19 ounces) But it was still crisp! It would be horrible to use in a handgun, but you could!
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Running a box of 22Mags thru a High Standard Derringer,
will improve the felt trigger pull on all your other guns.
Our '79 K22M gets the most smiles from other shooters.
The old Gold Cup for autos.
The 460s are superb as well, if you can lift them.
Crisp at about 4.5lbs.
My USAF issued Win 52D, was a 200/18x prone rifle.
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5 in one ragged hole at 100yds, prone or elbows on bench.
Shot the group to POA.
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Best stock handgun trigger ! hum
I have a 1961 colt huntsman I learned to shot with at the age of 6 but never tested the trigger till a few years ago and it has what amounts to a no take up or over travel 2lb trigger with very little movement needed to fire . My DW 15-2's and the DW 22lr are in the 2lb 6oz to 3lb 2oz range , My lw commander has worked its way down to 3lb 6oz . I have a savage bv mkii that is all savage parts but tuned for a 12oz pull weight .
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