My dad was given an Astra or Rossi, or some other make, can't remember what it was. Anyway, it was a copy of the S&W M19. I put it up for sale as he really had no use for it, and someone offered to trade a Ruger Blackhawk. Turned out it was a new model, 4 5/8 barrel, .357, in basically unfired condition. The really great part is that it had custom fitted Sambar Stag grips on it. I asked what he had in mind and he said that straight across worked for him. Worked for me too....