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Question about a stag folder handle
This unbranded folder is one of my top three favorite knives. The quality and craftsmanship is very unique. My question is about the handle - what type of bone (edit: antler) is this?
Edit to add: I believe the knife to be 1920 - 1950 era. Please correct me if I’m off base.
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Winterbone? Perhaps?
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Looks, to me, like some form of antler, not bone. Jigged bone has an almost mechanical quality to it. Those panels are purely organic.
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It is Sambar Stag, looks nice!!.......................................M*
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Looks like nice stag to me.
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I used to collect knives. It's very nice! May we see the blades, please?
This post may explain why it's not marked:
Vintage Unmarked Folding Knives - All About Pocket Knives
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If that knife was made in Germany might be Black Forest Stag.............................................M*
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Definitely appears to be stag not bone. No consistent size or shape with consistent jigging pattern. If it were bone it would almost certainly be the shin bone of a south American bovine. For some bazaar reason we can import cattle shin bones for knife handles, but we can't use domestic.
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Yes, it is stag (antler). When you post a picture with the blades open also give us the measurement of the length of the knife closed, please. Could be a Remington from the 1920s.
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Yes, it is stag (antler). When you post a picture with the blades open also give us the measurement of the length of the knife closed, please. Could be a Remington from the 1920s.
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I collect older Remington's and I just don't get that " vibe". Hope I'm wrong. These type knives give me sleepless nights. The master blade shows a long pull and at least one cut swedge and it could have two. Sure signs of quality over quantity of manufacture. But the bolsters appear to be steel, a mark of cheaper construction. I use the word appear as I cannot personally see the knife to know for certain.
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Question about a stag folder handle
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Well, to me the handle material looks like stag, maybe Sambar, who knows. The condition of the knife, the brass liners, blade condition, long pull, and bolsters tell me it’s a more recent manufacture than what’s been mentioned. If this knife is one of your favorite knives, I see no signs of use. The blades look flawless and no sign of sharpening. If the blades are carbon steel I don’t see any signs of patina. Maybe they’re Solingen steel. The brass liners look flawless from the backside and I just don’t see much age from carry. At any rate, it looks like a quality made knife from the pictures.
And the mystery continues.
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Looks like sambar to me.
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Well, to me the handle material looks like stag, maybe Sambar, who knows. The condition of the knife, the brass liners, blade condition, long pull, and bolsters tell me it’s a more recent manufacture than what’s been mentioned. If this knife is one of your favorite knives, I see no signs of use. The blades look flawless and no sign of sharpening. If the blades are carbon steel I don’t see any signs of patina. Maybe they’re Solingen steel. The brass liners look flawless from the backside and I just don’t see much age from carry. At any rate, it looks like a quality made knife from the pictures.
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I’ve only owned it about 6 months and bought off an auction site so no idea on history or previous use. But it’s definitely been “used but not abused”. I’ve gutted countless fish and a few deer so far.
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I like the shape of the master blade, I think I would give her a couple coats of Ren Wax, nice size for carry too........................................M*
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I like the shape of the master blade, I think I would give her a couple coats of Ren Wax, nice size for carry too........................................M*
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Everything I own has a coat of Renaissance Wax on it!
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If I may say so:
The stag looks great. Sambar stag, it seems.
The build? That's another story. It looks like 2 brass liners on one side, and one brass liner on the other. Seems odd. And the backspring looks too thick. It looks odd, to me. That's just my 2 cents. Your mileage may vary. I could be all wet. I've had "odd" knives before. I had a Puma with a funny blade. Never did learn why...
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This is a Puma Prince:
German manufacture, they call the scales "staghorn" or just genuine stag.
Close enough?
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If I may say so:
The stag looks great. Sambar stag, it seems.
The build? That's another story. It looks like 2 brass liners on one side, and one brass liner on the other. Seems odd. And the backspring looks too thick. It looks odd, to me. That's just my 2 cents. Your mileage may vary. I could be all wet. I've had "odd" knives before. I had a Puma with a funny blade. Never did learn why...
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I found the two “liners” ( that’s what you call them?) was odd also. It appears the blades required more room in the folded position as it doesn’t carry through on the blade side - see pic below.
Anyway, I like it - maybe just because it’s unique and beefy for certain uses. Plus I love anything with stag.
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I vote Sambar Stag too…….and BEAUTIFUL!
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If I may say so:
The stag looks great. Sambar stag, it seems.
The build? That's another story. It looks like 2 brass liners on one side, and one brass liner on the other. Seems odd. And the backspring looks too thick. It looks odd, to me. That's just my 2 cents. Your mileage may vary. I could be all wet. I've had "odd" knives before. I had a Puma with a funny blade. Never did learn why...
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[QUOTE=KalamazooKid;141957935]I found the two “liners” ( that’s what you call them?) was odd also. It appears the blades required more room in the folded position as it doesn’t carry through on the blade side - see pic below.
Anyway, I like it - maybe just because it’s unique and beefy for certain uses. Plus I love anything with stag.
The practice of two brass liners on one side is to allow a little more distance between the blades to prevent blade rub, especially opposing blades and single back spring folding knives. I have several Great Eastern knives, including 2 blade 1/2 Congress, and Calf Roper Stockman 3 blade that have 2 brass liners on one side to prevent blade rub.
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Here’s a Northfield (Great Eastern) Calf Roper Stockman, 3 blade, in Primitive Bone I’ve carried since 2011. Notice the 2 brass liners on the one side. These knives are notorious for blade rub because they are just 3 1/2” in length.
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Here’s another example of 2 brass liners on one side. This is a Tidioute (Great Eastern) Easy Pocket Congress, Red Jigged Bone, 2 apposing blades, with a single backspring like your knife has and it also has 2 brass liners on one side. I carry this knife also and I’m fond of the Warncliffe style blade. This knife is 3 7/8” in length when closed. What looks like a gap on each end of the backside of the knife is deceiving because it is the shadow of the backspring in the raised position due to blades being open. Maybe this farther explains the practice of the 2 brass liners on one side of your knife.
Your knife is a very good quality knife.
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I agree, possibly Sambar stag. I have several knives with Sambar and yours looks similar to them.
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I found the two “liners” ( that’s what you call them?) was odd also. It appears the blades required more room in the folded position as it doesn’t carry through on the blade side - see pic below.
Anyway, I like it - maybe just because it’s unique and beefy for certain uses. Plus I love anything with stag.
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Called a catch bit or spacer, It is normal for the secondary blade to be narrower and the spacer takes up the difference.
Nice knife; it had a Camillus vibe to it. Camillus made a lot of knives for other retailers like AG Russell and Blue Grass cutlery. Usually marked but un-marked ones are not un heard of. It may not be a Camillus, there were a lot of makers trhat had equal end patterns.
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Thanks to all who offered information about the knife! Don’t mind not knowing who made it or how much it’s worth (I paid $100 for it). I just like it!
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