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Well, pulled the proverbial trigger. Ordered online a P365X with manual safety and two 12 round mags.

I understand those mags are hard to fill, and I have a touch of arthritis in my hands. What's a good device to help with loading? Something that makes it easy.
P365 magazines are very hard to load to full capacity when new. But with an UpLULA loader it is very, very easy to load.

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Well, pulled the proverbial trigger. Ordered online a P365X with manual safety and two 12 round mags.

I understand those mags are hard to fill, and I have a touch of arthritis in my hands. What's a good device to help with loading? Something that makes it easy.
Omomea,
The Sig Magazines are difficult to load - I can testify to that. They are a lot of ammo in a small package - pretty much says it all. They will break in somewhat after loading a dozen or so times, but the last 3-5 rounds are tough.

EASY PEAZY SOLUTION: Get yourself a Uplula magazine loader! They run around $34 bucks and can be used for anything from .380 and up - regardless of brand. They work GREAT! You will rarely load another centerfire magazine by hand again.

HINT: Load the very first round in the magazine by hand, then use the loader for all the rest. This will alleviate any potential marks the metal tongue of the loader might impart on the nylon magazine follower. I don't like the marks even though they are pretty much cosmetic.

CONGRATS on the purchase!! I hope you love it! Send some pic's after you check it out.

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I'm sure many here are already familiar and own one of these, but for those who don't this is the best magazine loader you can get - IMHO.

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I agree with the comments about the P365 magazines being difficult to fully load. There is one more magazine issue that gives me pause. A full magazine is difficult to lock into place if the slide is closed. So a so-called tactical reload is problematic. If the slide is locked back, of course there's no issue. Just be aware that a backup magazine isn't very useful unless you run the gun dry.
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Have also noticed that problem with fully loaded mags.
Thinking of only loading 16 rounds in backup magazines.
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I have 2 365s. Both were manufactured in late 2019. Both have the manual safeties. One is my EDC and has over 2000 round thru it. Never a problem. The second is technically my wife’s. At first is shot low left, sent it back to Sig they replaced the barrel and put a new front sight on. The gun has fewer than 500 rounds thru it. Both guns are the TAC pacs that came with 3 12 round mags. I picked up 3 10 round mags also. So I started shooting her’s more, after a while I got a light hit thought it was an ammo problem. Took it out again and I got 3 light hits. Shot few different ammo manufactures. Lawman, Blazer brass and S&B. Mostly 124 gr fmjs. So I take it apart and the striker tip has a 45 degree angle on it.

Call Sig they say send it in, BUT now it’s over a year old and you have to pay 55.00 for shipping. I have a FFL dealer who could ship it but Sig wants him to call and set up a Return RMA address so I just send it in. While boxing it up I see the front Tritium insert has fell out. They say they will fix it. They did the replacement last June. I don’t know how 2 guns made a moth apart can be so different. Right now they are both on their way to sig, I figured that they better inspect my EDC and fix hers. I have only had one Gun maker make me pay for shipping and that was Les Baer.

As Far as Springfield Armory, I worked at a Gun store and sent a lot of their guns back for failures and other problems. They have been looking for a great pistol to market. Even the XD series is not their design. Nothing they make or have made impresses me. Just MY OPIOION.

I will not buy another Sig unless it is a hammer fired P series gun. Just look at the problems with the 320s. I can believe a lot of the ADS are shooter induced, but there are just too many to ignore, at least for me.
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Sounds like the 365 would be my choice if I did not have my CS-9 S&W. Glad I got one back in 99
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I agree with the comments about the P365 magazines being difficult to fully load. There is one more magazine issue that gives me pause. A full magazine is difficult to lock into place if the slide is closed. So a so-called tactical reload is problematic. If the slide is locked back, of course there's no issue. Just be aware that a backup magazine isn't very useful unless you run the gun dry.
Not really true if done in the following manner. Instead of just throwing the mag in and just tapping it from the bottom, put it in and use your middle finger and thumb to "squeeze" the mag into place. It's really very easy and is not that much effort! Hey, the very small mag's hold 10, 12, or 17 rounds - they're tight.
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I will not buy another Sig unless it is a hammer fired P series gun. Just look at the problems with the 320s. I can believe a lot of the ADS are shooter induced, but there are just too many to ignore, at least for me.
I have a Sig P365, P320X, P320 Compact and Sig M-17. I shoot them regularly and they have been accurate and reliable. To me the triggers are better than other striker fired pistols.
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Another vote for the Houge grip sleeve, the Uplula mag loader, and the Magguts conversion kits.

I carried various CCW guns over the last 65 years, ranging from 1911s, J,K,and N frames, and Kahrs. I was always looking for something better. When I picked up the 365, I quit looking.
It just felt right.

Loading the new magazines was tough but my Uplula took care of that and Magguts kits helped too.

The day I bought the gun I took it out in the pasture for my usual new gun test run.
I shot at cow turds scattered around me at various distances and hit every one. That little rascal shoots right up there with bigger and more expensive guns.
The grip sleeve and additional rounds in the mags just made it better.
Thirteen rounds pocket carry and 14 rounds in the spare is reassuring.

Like I said, I’ve quit looking.
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...Instead of just throwing the mag in and just tapping it from the bottom, put it in and use your middle finger and thumb to "squeeze" the mag into place...
Chief, so is your thumb on the bottom of the magazine and your middle finger on top of the slide when squeezing?


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Iggy, that you recommend the Magguts conversion kit is reassuring. I've been reading up on them and while most folks seem to like them, some question their reliability, especially over time.

I picked mine up today. 365X which is the standard bbl with the XL grip frame. Feels pretty good in my large hand, but I've also ordered a Wilson Combat grip frame based on my reading.

And an Uplula.

Man, this thing is compact!

Now to line up some professional instruction as I have no experience whatsoever with carrying a semi (and very little with even shooting them).

The adventure begins!

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Chief, so is your thumb on the bottom of the magazine and your middle finger on top of the slide when squeezing?


Iggy, that you recommend the Magguts conversion kit is reassuring. I've been reading up on them and while most folks seem to like them, some question their reliability, especially over time.

I picked mine up today. 365X which is the standard bbl with the XL grip frame. Feels pretty good in my large hand, but I've also ordered a Wilson Combat grip frame based on my reading.

And an Uplula.

Man, this thing is compact!

Now to line up some professional instruction as I have no experience whatsoever with carrying a semi (and very little with even shooting them).

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I prefer my thumb to be over top of the slide and my two middle fingers on the magazine base. Simply squeeze.
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Chief, so is your thumb on the bottom of the magazine and your middle finger on top of the slide when squeezing?


Iggy, that you recommend the Magguts conversion kit is reassuring. I've been reading up on them and while most folks seem to like them, some question their reliability, especially over time.

I picked mine up today. 365X which is the standard bbl with the XL grip frame. Feels pretty good in my large hand, but I've also ordered a Wilson Combat grip frame based on my reading.

And an Uplula.

Man, this thing is compact!

Now to line up some professional instruction as I have no experience whatsoever with carrying a semi (and very little with even shooting them).

The adventure begins!
Congrats!! Keep a firm grip too. Just keep in mind of you ever want to turn it into a really small pocket pistol (original Micro size), you can just swap out the grip-frame. They are pretty cheap these days.
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I teach and have all sorts of semi autos to try. I have a 365 X Macro that I love. it's a little larger than the small ones but it has a 17rd. capacity and shoots like a full size pistol. Mine has the built in comp and it really works. I own several striker fired pistols and this one is one of the best.
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Finally got to the range with my new P365X yesterday:





I hired an instructor I have used before for training with my revolvers. One hour.

We got off to an auspicious start with my having difficulty holstering the weapon and my instructor pointing out that I had the holster on upside down. This was followed by me fooling around with the uplula to load five rounds in my two 12-round mags. First time to try the uplula. (My theory being begin my intro to semi autos with no bad habits to unlearn.) Thought I had finally figured it out. Mags loaded 5x2. Drew, loaded, ready position, "up!", and..... something wrong.. Unloaded and my instructor looked at the mag, observing I had loaded the rounds in backwards...

What next?!

Well, it got better after that. We were practicing drills, drawing and firing two, back in the holster, repeat, etc. Moved to five at a go. Tap and rack. 10 rounds. Etc. This was at 21 feet, on an eight inch circle. I was just as accurate as I am with a 4" revolver, meaning that I keep my rounds inside the circle. Not bullseye by any means, but acceptable for SD.

I was trying to adapt to his teaching me a semi auto grip, the two thumbs forward, right on left. Felt weird as hell...

Anyway, while it does not feel natural yet, the semi, a good first session from my perspective.

Today, thinking on it, I don't think that's the right grip for me, especially on a gun this small with hands as large as mine:





Above, before my first training session, my first firing of the gun, I installed the Wilson Combat grip module. It is measurably and tactilely larger than the XL grip. Very aggressive, sharp, stippling though. Easy to dial back with some sandpaper, which I did, for those of us erstwhile paper pushers with soft hands. 400 grit, I think it was.

Sent him an email today, the instructor, and told him I thought better I stick with my revolver grip, thumb down and left hand thumb on right hand thumbnail. Just feels more natural, and a stronger, more secure grip.

He said that'd be fine, that some guys just do it that way. Old school. Reinforced keeping the thumbs bent, and clamping down for stability.

I have also found reassembly frustrating. Getting the takedown lever, slide release, and manual safety to cooperate. Spent some time on YouTube figgering that out.

I am gettin' there with this little guy.

Have ordered an extended mag release for an easier release, and think I will also go for an extended safety. The pistol is tiny in my large hands, and hard to manipulate the controls. But... for me anyway, meaning I am no bullseye shooter, I shoot it well...

Will report in again as I gain more handling confidence.

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Base of my palm to top of my middle finger is 8". Maybe a tad more.

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Finally got to the range with my new P365X yesterday:

I hired an instructor I have used before for training with my revolvers. One hour.

...

I was trying to adapt to his teaching me a semi auto grip, the two thumbs forward, right on left. Felt weird as hell...

Anyway, while it does not feel natural yet, the semi, a good first session from my perspective.

Today, thinking on it, I don't think that's the right grip for me, especially on a gun this small with hands as large as mine:





....

Sent him an email today, the instructor, and told him I thought better I stick with my revolver grip, thumb down and left hand thumb on right hand thumbnail. Just feels more natural, and a stronger, more secure grip.

He said that'd be fine, that some guys just do it that way. Old school. Reinforced keeping the thumbs bent, and clamping down for stability.


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Base of my palm to top of my middle finger is 8". Maybe a tad more.
You have spoken against the thumbs forward (AKA IPSC) grip! Expect torches, pitchforks and a tar boiler outside your house this evening.

Seriously, the guys at Front Site teach the crush grip that you are more comfortable with because it works with any gun and is better for those with limited grip strength.
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...the guys at Front Site teach the crush grip that you are more comfortable with because it works with any gun and is better for those with limited grip strength.
Good to know. I find in my 70s my grip strength is not what it was. (Hmm. Actually, I pretty much find that all of me is not what it was, unfortunately...) I also fundamentally don't like the idea of different hand grips for different guns, especially if my P365 becomes my EDC and is the only semi auto I am shooting.
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We got off to an auspicious start with my having difficulty holstering the weapon and my instructor pointing out that I had the holster on upside down. This was followed by me fooling around with the uplula to load five rounds in my two 12-round mags. First time to try the uplula. (My theory being begin my intro to semi autos with no bad habits to unlearn.) Thought I had finally figured it out. Mags loaded 5x2. Drew, loaded, ready position, "up!", and..... something wrong.. Unloaded and my instructor looked at the mag, observing I had loaded the rounds in backwards...
LOL holster upside down AND rounds in the magazine backwards? Auspicious start indeed!

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Yes, that's my intent in buying it. I just want to get comfortable with it before carrying it, so expect that to take several range sessions.
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