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Old 05-24-2024, 01:42 AM
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Whats your favorite go to pocket rockets?

Urban Dictionary: pocket rocket
A small caliber pistol that can fit in a person's front pocket.

Without a doubt the first one that comes to mind is the S&W 642! However sadly I sold mine to make ends meet. Im very sad over that...

I have to go with what I have currently and they are true winners!

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The Beretta Bobcat is a pistol I cant say enough good things about. It is super accurate and its a blast to shoot! No pun intended. Its been very reliable and if you just had to have a pocket gun in 22lr than without a doubt in my mind make it the Bobcat! The only thing I dont like about the Bobcat is I wish Beretta would make the 25acp version again! There is virtually no 25 autos on the market anymore and its sooooo sad very very sad...

Kel Tec never ceases to amaze me. Coming from a traditional classic firearms lover I always stayed away from gimmicky funky too inovative looking guns and for many years KT at first took me as ones of those companies. However I couldnt of been more wrong! George Kellgren is a genius! In my humble opinion he is up there with John Browning. He is still with us and still making guns and he is probably my favorite gun designer of all time. The P-32 is one of those lovely pocket rockets that can always be there when you need it in any kind of place and in any kind of attire possible. Its the perfect summer time fun gun. Most pocket pistols you carry often and shoot less but the 32 acp is a lot of fun popping cans on the range. Its actually quite pleasing to shoot the little 32 acp on the range with this gun. The P-32 is probably the most reliable lightest auto pistol in the world! The only thing I dont like is once again I wish they made more 32 acp pocket pistols. Its a wonderful caliber except for the dreaded rim lock issue but I stay away from HPs and I think you will never have that problem.

I would of never guessed in a million years that these 2 crazy little micro pistols would of ended up being the most lovely and fun guns to ever own! I highly recommend these two!
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P-32 ammo recommendations:

-Underwood Ammo .32 ACP +P 55 Grain Solid
-Fiocchi 32ACP 73 Grain Full Metal Jacket
(two of the best for range and self defense)

Beretta Bobcat:

-CCI mini mags
(the go too)

If any of you have ammo recommendations give me a shout! Post your replies. Thanks!
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Just to save my life mind you. My .357 magnum Herters derringer.
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Just to save my life mind you. My .357 magnum Herters derringer.
I really want a COP 357 derringer. Sadly it came out and vanished before my time.
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Never shot one of those.
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I really want a COP 357 derringer. Sadly it came out and vanished before my time.
They were during my time. The Pepper Box is an Idea that should be great. The COP were NOTORIOUS instead of famous! The worst problem they were notorious for was only shooting one shot and not rotating to the next. The were kind of heavy. and if you think a J-Frame has limited shots, The COP was at best 4 without speed loaders (Speed strips came out around the same time and were unproven.) Lastly, they were relatively expensive for the times.

sorry about your bubble.

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Old 05-24-2024, 05:39 AM
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I have a Berretta Tom Cat (3032) That usually get carried on my ankle. My every day carry is a refinished Model 49 (no-dash). Before model numbers the Name was "Bodyguard" the term of affection by owners is "Humpback". I also have a Model 36, Model 12-2 3", Model 15 2", a Colt Cobra all in 38 Special. A number of Derringers including American Derringers 357 mag (barrels shoot 17" apart a 20'), American Derringer's double action 38 Special (looks like a big High Standard 22 Mag model), a large stack of Davis 22 & 32 derringers.

I don't think of it as a Pocket Rocket, but more like a "Pocket full of Fun!", a model 629-10 PC (a 2 5/8" 44 mag), but most pants are skimping on suitable pockets these days.

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I have both of the OP’s caliber choices in the Seecamp version. Carried the .25 and then the .32 as backup gun in a back pocket. My wife has a .25 also. She also has her Browning .25
I wouldn’t mind getting one of the Beretta .22s. I had the .22 short version but traded it to Larry Seecamp for my first .25
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While I knew exactly what he meant, can't help wishing that the original poster had not used that term. Like Saturday night special and cop killer bullet, Pocket rocket is a term glomed on to by the anti-gunners, to define a type of gun that is evil and therefore scary. I myself do not use their terms.



I have both a 642 and a humpback. I believe I have a bobcat - 950 BS in 25. I have an American Derringer in 45 ACP, but I certainly would not carry that for self-defense if I had anything else available. Clumsy, awkward, slow to shoot, only holds two. Closer to a range toy than to defensive weaponry.
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Bought a Tomcat Recon a few weeks ago. It's pocket size but not as dinky as that Freedom Arms .22 Magnum!
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Don’t have them any more, but the Beretta 950 was an outstanding pocket gun; and the NAA mini pretty cool.

The High Standard derringer gets think-outside-the-box points, but I thought it was awful in practice. Had to use my 2nd finger on the trigger!
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I've always thought the term "pocket rocket," when referring to firearms, meant a powerful handgun that would fit in one's pocket. In my case, e.g., a 640-1 (.357 mag.)

And I thought the proper term for the smaller caliber handguns that would fit in one's pocket was "mouse gun."

Not that it makes any difference, I suppose. "A rose by any other name..."
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I have both ends of the pocket spectrum covered.
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My Mk1.5 Ruger LCP takes some beating. I also have a no-name Ruby in .25 ACP that seems to work, although it weighs a ton for what it is.
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For me, it's always my Kel-Tec P32 32ACP or my Ruger LCP 380ACP. Accept no substitutes!
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I had one. It was the best 3 shot pistol I've ever owned.
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I saw a COP a while back and I remembered what I thought the first time I handled one, “dang this thing is heavy”. It feels like it weighs more than two airweight J frames with only %40 of the firepower. Long heavy staple gun esq trigger too. Cool novelty from a time gone by though.

I most often pocket carry a M36 or a 2” M10-5 as long as I’m wearing pants with a belt. Shorts and slip on shoes in the summer I’m more likely to slip my old High Standard D101 in my front pocket.

My wife has an S&W Escort and an LCP. Neither of which is any great fighting pistol but at least she’ll carry something.
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It's not a 25 ACP nor a 22 lr - a little smaller than the Baby Browning. Bernardelli in 22 Long.

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Thought I'd also post the original "pocket pistol" too. If you miss I suppose disappearing behind the cloud of smoke would be a good back up plan.

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oNE THAT SEEMS TO BE MISSING IS A sig 938 . mine sets well in a sticky holster in my pocket or on my hip.Has a mag that holds 8 +1 in 9 mm., fits my hand well.although the night sights are hard for my old eyes to see.AS IF YET IT HAS NOT GIVEN ME ANY trouble .Great summer carry.Fall.winter spring i carry a 1911 officers or l.w. commander in a holster
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My only "pocket" pistol. American Arms PX-22. Erma-Werke copy of the Walther TPH-22.
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Where I grew up an amazing number of the local farmers had either a Baby Browning or a Model 36 in the bib pocket of their overalls. Surprisingly, I would say the Baby Browning won out in the one most frequently carried. Also, any of the gentleman that I was fortunate enough to see use one, used it well!
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Also have several of the little guys.
One that hasn’t been mentioned is the Kahr PM9.
6+1 with flush magazine.
It’s thin, pocket carries well in pocket holster.
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I have several little pocket guns. The ones that have intrigued me over the years are pretty old designs. They haven’t much power and are not noted for extraordinary reliability or precision, but they are adequate, I guess, if only barely so. My favorites are the Baby Browning and the Walther TPh. My little Seecamp .32 is probably a better pocket weapon than either, but lacks the charm.
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The Seecamp was the darling of all the gun/shooting magazines, of the time. I got on the Seecamp waiting list, shortly after they came out. When it arrived I was still surprised by how small it actually was and it was extremely difficult for me to shoot. As a result it has only had about 1 or 2 boxes of the prescribed Winchester Silvertips through it. I did carry it a bit in my right rear pants pocket but was never completely comfortable using it. I also got on the waiting list for a couple spare magazines. I was completely surprised after several years had passed and I actually got a notification from Seecamp that spare magazines were finally available if I was still interested.

I bought the Kahr Arms MK9 to carry as a backup duty weapon and it was carried in either a Galco Ankle Glove or in a Strong Pocket Holster in my left front uniform trouser pocket.
The MK9 was an excellent weapon that never gave me a problem qualifying but it is a bit heavy. But that weight is a plus when actually shooting it.

After I retired, I was working in a local gun shop and a lightly used very early Kel-Tec P3AT came in on trade. I snagged the P3AT to carry in my right rear pants pocket as a backup to my EDC SA Micro .45 acp 1911. I shot the little mousegun quite a bit until 1 day at the range, I fired a shot and the trigger went dead. I contacted Kel-Tec, fully disclosed that I bought the pistol used and they told me to send it in. Kel-Tec replaced the entire frame assembly reusing the old serial number and I had it back in less than 2 weeks. Great service.

The Kahr P380 was purchased as a replacement/upgrade to the Kel-Tec P3AT. The P380 is a smooth shooter that is great for those occasions when I want to still be armed but it absolutely has to be completely hidden.

The Kahr CM9 was purchased simply because I was managing a gun shop at the time and I could get it at cost and it is considerably lighter than the MK9 but still fills the same roll, deep concealment. Plus it uses the same magazines and holsters as the MK9.
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Ruger LCP, LCP II, and Beretta Bobcat.

I find it uncomfortable to carry anything larger in the front pocket.
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That's quite often my ECD, but I carry my 640-1 AIWB, Beretta in the pocket.
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My Mk1.5 Ruger LCP takes some beating. I also have a no-name Ruby in .25 ACP that seems to work, although it weighs a ton for what it is.
I would like to see it... Mouse guns have been around for ever! Long live the pocket rocket!
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My only "pocket" pistol. American Arms PX-22. Erma-Werke copy of the Walther TPH-22.
I like it! It looks like an old Iver Johnson 22 auto.
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The Seecamp was the darling of all the gun/shooting magazines, of the time. I got on the Seecamp waiting list, shortly after they came out. When it arrived I was still surprised by how small it actually was and it was extremely difficult for me to shoot. As a result it has only had about 1 or 2 boxes of the prescribed Winchester Silvertips through it. I did carry it a bit in my right rear pants pocket but was never completely comfortable using it. I also got on the waiting list for a couple spare magazines. I was completely surprised after several years had passed and I actually got a notification from Seecamp that spare magazines were finally available if I was still interested.

I bought the Kahr Arms MK9 to carry as a backup duty weapon and it was carried in either a Galco Ankle Glove or in a Strong Pocket Holster in my left front uniform trouser pocket.
The MK9 was an excellent weapon that never gave me a problem qualifying but it is a bit heavy. But that weight is a plus when actually shooting it.

After I retired, I was working in a local gun shop and a lightly used very early Kel-Tec P3AT came in on trade. I snagged the P3AT to carry in my right rear pants pocket as a backup to my EDC SA Micro .45 acp 1911. I shot the little mousegun quite a bit until 1 day at the range, I fired a shot and the trigger went dead. I contacted Kel-Tec, fully disclosed that I bought the pistol used and they told me to send it in. Kel-Tec replaced the entire frame assembly reusing the old serial number and I had it back in less than 2 weeks. Great service.

The Kahr P380 was purchased as a replacement/upgrade to the Kel-Tec P3AT. The P380 is a smooth shooter that is great for those occasions when I want to still be armed but it absolutely has to be completely hidden.

The Kahr CM9 was purchased simply because I was managing a gun shop at the time and I could get it at cost and it is considerably lighter than the MK9 but still fills the same roll, deep concealment. Plus it uses the same magazines and holsters as the MK9.
I would agree with you. Kahr, Seecamp, and Kel Tec are still to this day the leaders of pocket pistols. The CM9 is one of the greatest, most affordable, and most reliable 9mm pocket guns EVER!
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-Kahr CM9
-Glock 43
-Kel Tec P-11
-Kimber Micro 9

All Super reliable but the P-11 is pushing it because its high capacity makes it almost too heavy for pocket carry and so does the Sig p365. Those two or more suited for IWB carry.
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Anything is a pocket pistol if your pockets are large enough.
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I've got this but I don't carry it. Not for SD, anyhow. It's an Astra 22 short.
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Here's my two "Mouse Guns" a Kel Tec P32 and a Glock 42. The P32 is carried a lot and shot a little. I don't reload .32 ACP but I fire a couple of magazines once in a while to verify function and reliability. It has never jammed or misfired. I shoot the Glock 42 quite a bit because I reload .380 Auto.

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Any combination of these on a daily basis. The Seecamps are carried in "Sticky" pocket holsters.



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Bobcat , 442 & a KAHR 380 (either the CW or the CT)...

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P.S. The PM40 would work, but has a Viridian laser so it rides in a holster that turns it on when drawn: it would be the ICBM of the pocket rockets IMHO!
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Ruger LCP for me. It goes everywhere with me.
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Urban Dictionary: pocket rocket
A small caliber pistol that can fit in a person's front pocket.

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This one has been in my front pocket continuously for many many years (20 plus)....
Has all the attributes I need - good cartridge (38 spl.) - great grip (Spegel boot grips) - 5 shot capacity (if I don't connect with 5, I'm running the other direction) - light and has the ability of SA of one should think that was a good idea (not me) - but has the ability to do a function check when needed (without touching the trigger).....

Yup, the S&W original Airweight Bodyguard M38.....

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I really want a COP 357 derringer. Sadly it came out and vanished before my time.
They're an oddity for sure. I had one back in the early 80's and traded it off in fairly short order. It was not pleasant to shoot with .357 rounds. The trigger was simply horrible, upwards of 20 pounds... hard to hit anything beyond 5 to 10 feet.

Just to add to a collection, maybe, anything else, a solid no.
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Bobcat , 442 & a KAHR 380 (either the CW or the CT)...

Cheers!

P.S. The PM40 would work, but has a Viridian laser so it rides in a holster that turns it on when drawn: it would be the ICBM of the pocket rockets IMHO!
I had a PM40 great pistol and 40 S&W has some of the best defense lods ever except one problem. The snappy recoil and tiny grip made me hit the mag release button too often than not.
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