Randall Firearms 1911..

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Walked up on this at a gun show table this weekend...

NIB with all 5 mags complete with box and papers.
Don't run across these very often anymore.
Interesting short-lived history.
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Those thumbrest mags are interesting and valuable.

I almost bit on one of these about 8 years ago, but I wanted a shooter and it was too nice, plus all the anecdotes about galling issues with these and their 1980s brethren like the AMT guns.
 
Are Randall's decent guns? I read of these some years back but don't recall any of what I read. I don't believe I've ever seen a Randall.
 
I started collecting Randalls back in 1983 when they first came out. Collected them till I bought my first S&W M41 and M52. Still have 8 of them in the safe. Last few I’ve seen at gun shows run in the 1500+$ range. Great guns although most needed a little tuning when I got them.
 
Were they subject to the metal galling between frame and slide issue some early SS auto's had?

Nice looking handgun. I remember them from back in the day, but I don't believe I ever shot one.

Larry
 
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I had one of the early Randalls in the 80's. Shot it a lot. It was very accurate at first, both with factory ball and most of my handloads. Shot it a lot, loved it. But, the more I shot it, the worse it got. Started "rattling" when I shook it while empty, and often found metal chips in my cleaning swabs. The galling took it from me. It wore in more places than the frame and slide - the steel was just too soft.
 
Bought this 1911 'Combat' model new in the early 80's.

Always ran fine, no recall of any issues with it.
Kept it greased with RIG Stainless+, never showed any galling.

Shame they failed financially, they were quality built.
Every part in the firearm is stainless.
 

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The "all stainless" got me. The trigger and hammer sears got worn so quickly that it started double-tapping on it's own. Luckily it happened at a private range where everything was under control. It is a shame the company failed. When new, it would hit where pointed every time.
 
Were they subject to the metal galling between frame and slide issue some early SS auto's had?

Nice looking handgun. I remember them from back in the day, but I don't believe I ever shot one.

Larry

I bought an early A121 “Service Model” marked Combat Model in late 1983. The flat top sight ribbed combat model 1911s were initially marked Service Model like the regular round topped A111 service model but they added the “Combat” under the ejection port in early 1984 to avoid confusion. Those later combat models also had round rather than spur hammers and Pachmayr grips rather than walnut.

I owned, carried and shot it for years before selling it. Young and dumb and didn’t realize they made only around 300 of the service marked combat models, making them fairly collectible.

One of the major problems with Randall 1911s were the fact they made 24 different models in 12 variations and 3 calibers and never really had the production capacity to meet demand. If they’d have stuck with the full sized .45 ACP models - the A111 Service Model, A121 Combat Model and the A131 Service Model (a Combat model with a Millet adjustable rear sight) until they got their production legs under them, they probably would have survived. More models wasn’t better when they were never available.

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At the time the AMT stainless 1911s were well known for issues with galling from too soft frames and slides.

However, that was not my experience with my Randall 1911. I shot several thousands rounds through it and had no issues with galling or excessive wear. It was marketed as “the only stainless steel .45 fit for duty”. My experience with it certainly supported that claim.

It’s not surprising either as the company was an outgrowth of Ken-Air and aerospace company that used aircraft grade stainless steel in the Randall 1911s. They knew metal and knew precision manufacturing.

Randall was largely responsible for pushing Colt to come out with their stainless version of the 1911 in 1984. Those stainless Colts also held up just fine, and unlike the Randall 1911s they could reliably be found in stock in local gun shops.
 
Colt and S&W solved the stainless steel galling problem in two different ways. Colt gave the frame and slides different heat treatment while S&W specified different grades of stainless steel for the two parts. Each method worked just fine.
 
Remember them in Shotgun News in the early 80's when I was a kid. Wanted one really bad, still don't have one.
 
At the time the AMT stainless 1911s were well known for issues with galling from too soft frames and slides.

One of my Sgt.'s bought an AMT Hardballer and had problems with it. He tried every lubricant he could think of and still not joy. Finally he used 30 wt. motor oil and it worked.
 

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