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I just purchased a Winchester 69 from a buddy for $100. It has both the .22 short and .22lr. magazines. It is a first generation model with the "safe" & "fire" bolt. I read that they were made from March 1935 until Sept. 1937.
In August 1935, the bolt was redesigned to incorporate a "rebounding firing pin". I have no idea what a rebounding firing pin is. How would I know if my rifle has the original style bolt or the "rebounding firing pin"?
Any and all assistance will be greatly appreciated.
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That's easy. With the action closed and the trigger pressed to drop the firing pin, press forward with your thumb on the cocking knob. If you feel some spring resistance and when you remove your thumb the cocking knob comes back a little, you have the rebounding firing pin. You can also observe this if you cock it, pull the trigger on an empty chamber, and see that the cocking knob slams forward and then pops back a bit.
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just bought a 69a and a friend told me of your link on s&w. i found it extremely helpful. mine is like the second photo but there is no hood it is just a blade. everything else is like you have quoted. btw i got a 67 when i was 12 i like winchesters. jim kidd s&w member
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Winchester Model 69 and 69A rifles **UPDATED 12/03/12**
My dad made me save up for my model 69a to use in NRA. About 1955 I had enough to buy it, we went to a local hardware store in Springfield, Mass and i got the chrome bolt, trigger, and guard plus grooved receiver, with rear peep sight and hooded front sight. After he bought it my dad took me to the local 5cent savings bank and deposited matching funds. I was mad at first, but knew he was teaching me a valuable life lesson. We shot together every Saturday afternoon for some time, weather permitting. I'd go to work with him Saturday morning (he worked half day) then we'd have lunch and shoot at a nearby outdoor range the National guard used. He died very suddenly in 1958, but I still have the rifle in nearly perfect condition. My son, and daughter learned to shoot with it, and I will pass it on to them. It's a great rifle, with near perfect accuracy.
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My dad made me save up for my model 69a to use in NRA. About 1955 I had enough to buy it, we went to a local hardware store in Springfield, Mass and i got the chrome bolt, trigger, and guard plus grooved receiver, with rear peep sight and hooded front sight. After he bought it my dad took me to the local 5cent savings bank and deposited matching funds. I was mad at first, but knew he was teaching me a valuable life lesson. We shot together every Saturday afternoon for some time, weather permitting. I'd go to work with him Saturday morning (he worked half day) then we'd have lunch and shoot at a nearby outdoor range the National guard used. He died very suddenly in 1958, but I still have the rifle in nearly perfect condition. My son, and daughter learned to shoot with it, and I will pass it on to them. It's a great rifle, with near perfect accuracy.
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Your dad did indeed teach you some valuable life lessons.
When my sons were little boys, we used to pack a picnic lunch on nice days, and spend all day at my rifle club punching holes in paper and knocking down the steel silhouette targets. (We used to call the latter activity "poppin' piggies".) The boys learned safe gun handling, patience, discipline, hand-eye coordination, and the satisfaction of doing something really well. Your dad, I'm sure, imparted the same lessons to you...my condolences to you on his untimely passing.
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Winchester Model 69
I have a Winchester Model 69 in the original shipping box, never used, serial # 26754. How do I find out the year it was made. There's a 4 cent post card in the box.
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I have a Winchester Model 69 in the original shipping box, never used, serial # 26754. How do I find out the year it was made. There's a 4 cent post card in the box.
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Model 69s never had serial numbers from the factory; it may be a serial number was applied post-manufacture to satisfy some applicable ordinance for wherever it was used.
If you could post a clear picture or two, including a closeup of the area from the cocking knob to the front of the rear sight, and tell me whether or not the cocking knob rebounds with moderate spring action when pressed forward in the uncocked position, I could probably give you an estimate of its manufacture date.
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Great info I have a Model 69 I will have to dig it out of the safe for a look I believe the Take Down screw sticks out so it may be a earlier example.
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Have a Model 69 that was given to my mother by her father, it was her "rabbit gun". It was the rifle I learned on (after I was strong enough to take the safety off....practised for years...!).
What a beautiful gun. Accurate, nice wood...I even found a .22 short mag for it in a junk bin at an antique show for a dollar!
It will stay in family for as long as I have a say.
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Winchester model 69A
Looking for lead front sight for my model 69A rifle...can anyone tell me where I can order this part? Thanks
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My model 69 cocks on the bolt going back making it an earlier year model, maybe '35. but it does NOT have a rear buck horn sight on the barrel, it does have a rear sight that is adjustable for windage and elevation that is set in a dovetail behind the ejection port. Does anyone have any idea how or why it is configured like this? The barrel shows no work being done to fill in any sight attachment point at the point where it normally shows the rear sight in pictures i have seen of "standard Model 69's". To me it appears the the sight on mine is not original to the rifle, but my question is what would normally be on this as a rear sight?
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My model 69 cocks on the bolt going back making it an earlier year model, maybe '35. but it does NOT have a rear buck horn sight on the barrel, it does have a rear sight that is adjustable for windage and elevation that is set in a dovetail behind the ejection port. Does anyone have any idea how or why it is configured like this? The barrel shows no work being done to fill in any sight attachment point at the point where it normally shows the rear sight in pictures i have seen of "standard Model 69's". To me it appears the the sight on mine is not original to the rifle, but my question is what would normally be on this as a rear sight?
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Perhaps this will help. 69s and 69As had two particular versions of rear sights. The standard was the normal open sight mounted in a dovetail in the barrel. The second was a peep sight (Winchester 80A sight in the catalog), made mostly of stamped metal. Here are two views of this sight, which was mounted behind the ejection port. This one is on a 69A, but the 69 setup was identical. This sight was also used on the Model 72 and the 72A as an option. See the OP for an overall picture of a 69A with this sight.
Elevation was adjusted by loosening the large thumbwheel knob on the left, raising or lowering the sight, and then tightening the thumbwheel. The little screw on top could then be screwed down to contact the receiver; this would enable the owner to easily return to that elevation point.
Windage was adjusted by loosening the peep itself slightly, moving the sight right or left, and then tightening the peep, which was knurled to assist in turning it.
The zero scale could be adjusted with the 3rd screw on the right, to match the zero mark on the sight body once zero was accomplished.
If your sight matches this one, then it is correct. The 69s and 69As with the adjustable 80A rear sight had a ramped front sight (Winchester 97B); the ramp was made of stamped steel and was removable.
Hope this helps.
John
P.S. 69s cock when the bolt goes forward; the 69As cock when the handle is lifted.
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Hi, I'm new to this forum, was looking for some info on my model 69 that I bought from a garage sale for $90. It was missing the magazine, and the old guy that I bought it from said that he had it somewhere, but never found it. I had never had one of these old rifles, so when I bought it, without having the clip, I didn't notice that the magazine release assembly was missing. I thought that maybe the hole was for a screw until I went online and checked it out. I have had this gun for about a month and have not been able to find that release assbly ANYWHERE! I found a picture of it somewhere, (but out of stock) that's how I found out how much was missing, and the name of it. I think that they called it the "magazine release plunger spring assembly" or something like that. He probably had that somewhere too, but it wasn't with the gun. It was kinda hard to deal with the guy cuz he had Alzheimer's and kept losing focus on the conversation (his daughter takes care of him), so it didn't take me long to see that he wasn't going to be able to find the parts.
This is my first post, so I'm going to TRY to post some pics. Maybe one of you fine enthusiasts might be able to tell me more about it, and whether I got a good deal. Also, if anyone has or knows of the parts that I need, please let me know. I hope that this gun doesn't end up being a money pit.
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Hi, I'm new to this forum, was looking for some info on my model 69 that I bought from a garage sale for $90. It was missing the magazine, and the old guy that I bought it from said that he had it somewhere, but never found it. I had never had one of these old rifles, so when I bought it, without having the clip, I didn't notice that the magazine release assembly was missing. I thought that maybe the hole was for a screw until I went online and checked it out. I have had this gun for about a month and have not been able to find that release assbly ANYWHERE! I found a picture of it somewhere, (but out of stock) that's how I found out how much was missing, and the name of it. I think that they called it the "magazine release plunger spring assembly" or something like that. He probably had that somewhere too, but it wasn't with the gun. It was kinda hard to deal with the guy cuz he had Alzheimer's and kept losing focus on the conversation (his daughter takes care of him), so it didn't take me long to see that he wasn't going to be able to find the parts.
This is my first post, so I'm going to TRY to post some pics. Maybe one of you fine enthusiasts might be able to tell me more about it, and whether I got a good deal. Also, if anyone has or knows of the parts that I need, please let me know. I hope that this gun doesn't end up being a money pit.
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You have a gun worth saving, as the original Model 69s have become collectible. The magazine release mechanism is a bit hard to get out of the stock, and is difficult to re-insert, as it involves a tiny U-shaped retaining spring that is hard to get to. However, it is common to the 69, the 69A, the 75 Target and the 75 Sporter. A call to Gun Parts Corporation should get you what you need, and the magazines are also commonly available. Those marked with a "W" on the baseplate are reproductions, but work fine. The originals have the Winchester logo on the baseplate and work with any of the guns mentioned above.
Here are the four varieties of magazines:
Left to right: Single loading adapter, .22 short mag, standard 5-shot mag, 10-shot mag.
Hope this helps.
John
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