Mayor Daley looks to Hague for help

Harrison said:
At the time of my retirement, my secretary was from Chicago. She never quit talking about how wonderful Chicago was, and what an uncivilized, backward, uncouth, hell hole Texas was. Everyone kept asking her if she hated Texas so much why she didn't go back to Chicago. Her answer, she made more money and lived better in Texas. Go Figure??
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The only thing Chicago has over the rest of the U.S. is good hotdogs. Tell her to kiss all of Texas's collect behind and stop ruining it for rest of us.
P.S. my mom's family is from TX and my girlfriend lives outside of Chicago. I feel I can fairly judge both of them. I'd take my drunken, uncivlized, backward, uncouth, hell hole living texan family's lifestyle every day of the week over a crime ridden, smog covered, liberal waste like Chicago everyday of the week.
 
kscardsfan said:
The only thing Chicago has over the rest of the U.S. is good hotdogs.
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Of course they've now made it so difficult to HAVE one, that it's not worth the bother. Even my mother says it's not worth going into Chicago anymore. The last time I ate at a nice restaurant there, parking cost more than the meal.

kscardsfan said:
P.S. my mom's family is from TX and my girlfriend lives outside of Chicago. I feel I can fairly judge both of them. I'd take my drunken, uncivlized, backward, uncouth, hell hole living texan family's lifestyle every day of the week over a crime ridden, smog covered, liberal waste like Chicago everyday of the week.
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I grew up in Chicago. The central difference between Texas and Chicago is that while they both have violent crime, in Chicago you're EXPECTED to be a submissive victim of it. But then that's to be expected when the city "government" is run, top to bottom, by criminals.

Texas could be run by Quanah Parker and compared to Chicago, it'd be a model of peace, prosperity and honesty.
 
cmort666 said:
Of course they've now made it so difficult to HAVE one, that it's not worth the bother. Even my mother says it's not worth going into Chicago anymore. The last time I ate at a nice restaurant there, parking cost more than the meal.


I grew up in Chicago. The central difference between Texas and Chicago is that while they both have violent crime, in Chicago you're EXPECTED to be a submissive victim of it. But then that's to be expected when the city "government" is run, top to bottom, by criminals.

Texas could be run by Quanah Parker and compared to Chicago, it'd be a model of peace, prosperity and honesty.
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That's been my arguement to my girlfriend forever. At least in Houston, New Orleans, Dallas I'm allowed a fighting chance to defend myself. Up there if I fight back, I'm the bad guy! Seems backwards to my way of thinking. But, hey what do I know? I'm just a backwards, uncouth looser.
 
PatAz said:
Maybe it is something in the water. Generations of loons.
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Imagine North Korea if the North Koreans had complete communications with the real world, and could leave any time they wanted... and yet they stayed, voluntarily.

Talk to Chicagoans. They really CAN'T conceive of any other way. It's downright creepy, like Jonestown with snow.
 
If you look at the Chicago papers and read the reaction of Aldermen like Ed Burke, you see a disconnect from my view of reality.
I think the Chicago criminals are armed to the teeth and doing all of the violence that occurs to them, more people are not killed because the criminals haven’t had time yet. If the criminals wanted more guns they would get them, all illegally of course.
Note; I am not referring to the criminal politicians who are armed legally.
And yet in their discussions about the McDonald Decision the Aldermen and Mayor keep talking about how allowing honest citizens their basic right to self defense will put more guns in the hands of criminals who will do more violence.

The Aldermen act as though the majority of people in Chicago do not agree that self-defense is a good thing, much less a right.
Could it be that the Aldermen are correct, and that, if you called for a vote, the majority of Chicagoans might say no to self-defense?
 
oldRoger said:
Could it be that the Aldermen are correct, and that, if you called for a vote, the majority of Chicagoans might say no to self-defense?
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If you put it to a vote:

1/3 would repeal the 13th Amendment
1/3 would institute the Nuremberg Laws
1/3 would have an anschluss with Mexico

Freedom just isn't a consideration to the average Chicagoan.
 
Trust me, they are content to live in a slimey crime ridden hell hole if they are given the choice. They consider it some kind of messed up paradise here on earth. I am trying to figure out what cop or firefighter has time or energy to care which houses have guns while they're en route to a call. All of my buddies just assume everyone is armed when they make a traffic stop or go to someone's house on a call. It's a joke of a law that they are trying to pass just to keep their subjects under control.
 
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Klas said:
I'd leave if I could sell my condo. Wanna' buy one?
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I own some heavily polluted and radioactive land in North Korea. Want to swap? Just kidding, I'm nowhere near THAT big of a sucker.

I left Chicago in '86. I simply can't think of a single thing that's gotten BETTER since then.

My mother tried to talk me into buying property in Chicago. I don't feel like I dodged a bullet. I feel like I dodged an 18" shell from the battleship Yamato.
 
John Lott's Blog today has this link to a Chicago cop site with comments on the dangerous/stupid path the Chicago politicians are sending their poor citizens down ( written by a cop who I could really get to like ) .

Second City Cop
 
7shooter said:
John Lott's Blog today has this link to a Chicago cop site with comments on the dangerous/stupid path the Chicago politicians are sending their poor citizens down ( written by a cop who I could really get to like ) .

Second City Cop
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Some of his other opinions, especially regarding holding police accountable for their actions, are dubious at best, but he's definitely on the right track when it comes to 2nd Amendment rights.
 
Klas said:
C'mon. I'll throw in a map to all the 'safe' places. (Don't tell anyone.)
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I was raised at 69th and Indiana. There AREN'T any "safe" places.

When I first moved to NE Ohio, I was always tickled when effete suburbanites would speak in hushed tones about the east side of Cleveland, and the "gang problem". I'd just tell them, if you can't point to a particular high rise and say which gang owned it, you don't REALLY have a "gang problem". There used to be a big white high rise near the Dan Ryan on 71st(?) Street. I think the Disciples owned that one. Made the original owner an "offer he couldn't refuse".

I carry a gun everywhere it's legal to do so here, but I've never been ANY place I actually considered "dangerous". I used to tell co-workers that compared to where I grew up, the east side of Cleveland was Lake Woebegone.
 
Klas said:
The housing projects right of the Ryan on the east side of it? The one that had the police station on the bottom floor? I used to have to go there daily for an old job back in the 80's. Had to walk up its dark, dank stairs every frickin' day (no working elevator, of course). Good times.
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No, I think you're talking about the Robert Taylor Homes. This one was on the west side of the Ryan.
 
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