9mm and 40 S&W Loads for Self Defense?

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9mm:
Federal HST 147-gr. +P (P9HST4) @ 1,050 fps.
Winchester Ranger T 147-gr. (RA9T) @ 990 fps.


40 S&W:
Winchester Ranger T 180-gr. (RA40T)
Federal 180-gr. HST (P40HST1)
 
In 9mm I use the following, don't have a 40.

1. Federal 115gr jhp +P+ 9BPLE
2. Winchester 115gr jhp +P+ RA9115HP+
3. Speer 124gr gdhp +P

Chuck H
 
Where you put the bullet is far more important than what you use. Having said that:

Cor-Bon 115 +P JHP and Remington 115 gr. +P JHP.
 
9mm:
Federal 115gr +P+

What I also would use if this ammo as no longer available is;
Remington 124gr +p (Used this before I changed over to Federals)
Speer Gold Dot 124 +p
 
For HD and limited carry for SD, I use 180 gr. Rem. JHP bought at Wal-Mart. They are not fashionable. But, they are affordable. I can shoot them enough to know where they hit and how they recoil, etc., in my G-22. If a bad situation arises, I don't expect any round to produce a one-shot stop. I plan on shooting until the threat is stopped. I do not expect to be shooting through cars/walls. I figure the 180gr. JHP will do what is needed. If and when I can find some more up to date type ammo at an affordable price, I may transition.
 
9mm only...

147gr Federal HST
147gr Speer Gold Dot
147gr WW Ranger T

I have and will use all 3 in various guns but prefer them in the order listed.
 
9MM,SXT winchester ranger +P 127 gr,Corbon 115gr +P and federal 135 gr.tactical bonded HP.coobie
 
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9mm 115 gr Winchester White Box "Personal Defense" hollow points or the 115 gr Winchester Silver Tip.

Geoff
Who is convinced the results are so similar it makes a difference only in price.
 
I don't have a 40. In 9mm, I like the Cor-Bon 115 grain +P JHP. It's rated at 1350 fps & 466 ftlbs of energy.
 
Just keep in mind that real world terminal performance for self-defense and statical velocity or muzzle energy don't always go together. Lightweight bullets in general do not perform very well in testing in various media designed to simulate the human torso.
 
Just keep in mind that real world terminal performance for self-defense and statical velocity or muzzle energy don't always go together. Lightweight bullets in general do not perform very well in testing in various media designed to simulate the human torso.
The FBI spent millions of our tax dollars and determined the best round in testing was the 125 gr .357 Magnum.
Then the FBI bought semi-autos in 10mm and followed with the .40 S&W...your tax dollars at work.

Given the legal restraints on personal defense I do not want the penetration the FBI desired after the "Miami Shoot Out" which proved FBI agents were poorly trained and exceedingly brave, but not too bright. Their knowledge of simple physics was lacking as some threw their weapons away before the fight started!
The Gun Zone -- FBI Miami Firefight
I also note the Federal BP 9mm 115 gr round has been highly satisfactory for police.

Given a choice I want my old Army issue M-60 Machinegun in a fight. In the land of spandex and shorts and CCW, I like small flat autos in 9mm or .380 and/or a snubbie S&W with 110gr standard velocity Silvertips.

In my guns and experience with other range rentals, 147 gr rounds are more likely to toss the brass back into my face, and one ended up under my glasses! (S&W 908, 147 gr. Range Reloads matching the ballistics of the local Police standard 9mm, at the time.)

Geoff
Who likes the Winchester 115 gr Silvertip which the FBI scientifically determined to have "failed" during the incident.
 
I don't own a 40.


9mm: Federal 124 grain +P HST and Federal 115 grain +P+ (9BPLE) JHP
 
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