cowboy117
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Concealed means concealed.
Excuse me if I fail to see the relevance of all of this to LAWFUL open carry...Larry was a fighter, bugged everyone with "his rights", and wondered why every LEO in the country hated him! Larry was a legend.
I recall plenty of people not wanting legal concealed carry "pushed" in Ohio. The FOP still doesn't.They're pushing issues that most of us don't see a need to be pushing right now.
Jared Loughner was no more of a "poster boy" for gun owners than Jeffrey Dahmer was for Army veterans or homosexuals.Many of us see gun rights and gun laws going our way over the last 20 or so years. We don't want a jerk to make a spectacle of himself and screw it all up for the rest of us. Maybe this Jared Loughner would be the poster boy for being a screw up.
There are plenty of people who don't think you should carry, or indeed HAVE firearms.I realize my views are just mine. But I have a feeling there are a lot of others who feel pretty much the same way.
Well it's kind of ironic that you would mention that. The last time somebody tried to harass me for wearing an NRA ballcap, he also noted that he "wasn't so sure" that the Holocaust was a BAD thing.If you act like a jerk, wear nazi insignia
My mother DOESN'T. Should i stop carrying and pretend that the police will protect me in order to cater to her opinion?I really like our new carry laws.
You don't have to "care" about my rights. You just have to respect them as required by LAW, just as I have to respect the rights of a private property owner to forbid me to carry a firearm onto his premises. If either of us don't, there will be consequences.In all this I pretty much don't care about your rights if you're asserting them in a way I feel is stupid. I won't support you. Nor will 99 out of 100 others. And when you lose 50 out of 100, you lose.
Similarly, we're going to get CCW reform in Ohio by doing what the FOP wants. And when the FOP treats all people with CHLs like drunken hooligans, that convinces everyone that they're mature and not jerks, right...?Glad that's finally settled....everyone just quietly go along with what makes timid folks "comfortable" and all will be well. That's how we finally got CCW in Ohio and Kentucky...wasn't it???...![]()
It doesn't seem like it. What does ANY of this have to do with lawful open carry?cmort666, We all understand your rights. Being an *** about it isn't the best way to get others to respect your rights. If I agree with you, but you continue to be obnoxious about it, i'll tend to turn against you pretty quickly. I believe most people are this way as well.
"Privileges"??? When did the 2nd Amendment become a part of the "Bill of PRIVILEGES"???I cant let this go without a curve shot. Consider this: I really wonder if these restrictive gun laws didnt come about because of people abuseing their privilages?
The central driving factor behind gun control in North America has been race and ethnicity. The first anti-gun laws were intended to disarm Blacks and Indians. The later laws were intended to disarm in addition, Jews, Italians and southern Europeans. If you're going to lynch somebody or keep your foot on the back of somebody's neck, it's a good idea to first disarm them so that they can't shoot you for trying to do it.It`s almost a classic western plot to see the cowboys arrive in kansas after a long trail drive from texas running their horses down the street hooping and shooting their revolvers in the air like the peasants do today in the mid east. And then we see how the sheriff makes the boys turn their guns in to the bartender untill they leave. Dont you suppose there was some truth to it and quite possibly thats how gun laws got started to some extendt?
If you have the choice of not carrying, and pretending that the police will "protect" you, why not go unarmed? Why carry and fuel the fire to the populace and have them think you and all that pack are some kind of nut? Believe me, that's EXACTLY what they think.If you have the choice of ccw, why not cc? Why OC and fuel the fire to the populace and have them think you and all that pack are some kind of a nut? Belive me, thats exactly what they think!
I figure them either a plain cloths LEO or a wannabe idiot.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but in Ohio, lawful open carry isn't "disorderly conduct" and if you arrest somebody for it under that charge (or "inducing panic"), you're going to get sued, and lose.Oh no, they're not wannabe idiots, they're almost always full fledged idiots!
They push for the fun of pushing and causing a disturbance. Then the locals stop having a sense of humor and arrest them for disorderly conduct just to get back to doing something worth while. Eating donuts and drinking coffee is much more productive than listening to some jerk argue about his rights. Putting him in jail until he blows a fuse or two will at least keep the town quiet (and safer) than allowing him to upset little old ladies.
And Bloomberg and the rest of the anti-gunners feel EXACTLY that way about you OWNING a gun.Just because something is legal doesn't necessarily make it a good idea to practice in certain situations.
And Bloomberg and the rest of the anti-gunners feel EXACTLY that way about you OWNING a gun.
Lets try a couple of these:
"Just because it's legal for you to wear that crucifix doesn't necessarily make it a good idea in certain situations."
"Just because it's legal for you to wear that American flag pin doesn't necessarily make it a good idea in certain situations."
I'm sure that any number of people could explain to you how "offensive" either one of those items are and how you shouldn't wear them in public, no matter how LEGAL it is to do so.
"No amount of reasoning is going to reach someone who has made up his mind on this that his 'rights are being trampled'.