Do Police Ride with Full Auto EBR's?

[bushmaster1313]

I am very happy for police officers to be armed in any way they think necessary for the beat they are on.

Are the EBR's in most patrol cars Full Auto/burst or just AR-15 type semi-auto's?

 

[Indiana George]

Hand-me-down M16's here, but the guys in the black jump suits carry MP-5's.

(In addition to many other goodies!)

 

[sheriffoconee]

We have some M 16's handed down from .mil.....most of our EBR's are AR's or Mini 14's.....
SRT has the M 16's and UMP's in 45 ACP...

 

[bushmaster1313]

Hand-me-down M16's here, but the guys in the black jump suits carry MP-5's.

Even here in New Jersey it is legal and easy for civilians to get semi-auto EBR's

 

[Faulkner]

Our department has both. About two thirds carry semi auto, and a third have full auto . . . our department has about 40 deputies.

 

[bushmaster1313]

and a third have full auto

I hope they don't have bayonet lugs.

I would hate the idea of overarming our civil servants

 

[The Big D]

What does the acronym "EBR" represent?

Yes, the thread suggests it's patrol rifle related but have never seen such an acronym.

Thanks, in advance.

Be safe.

 

[sheriffoconee]

Evil Black Rifles......

 

[dmar]

What does the acronym "EBR" represent?

Yes, the thread suggests it's patrol rifle related but have never seen such an acronym.

Thanks, in advance.

Be safe.

That would be "Evil Black Rifle," AKA 'Assault Rifle'...! Sounds too scary for me to own! It's amazing, with the millions of these rifles out there, you'd think we would all be dead by now...

 

[StuperDan]

I assumed from context it meant Emergency Backup Rifle.

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[bushmaster1313]

I just hope the full auto guns don't have flash supressors.

That much fire power, in addition to the bayonet lugs and folding stocks, might be too much even for a well trained officer to handle.

 

[4506517]

My agency issues full auto M16A1 rifles to qualified deputies. We also authorize private purchase M4-type carbines in semi only. EVERYONE must attend a mandatory training class.

 

[lawandorder]

The Agency I work for also has taken advantage of Fed Surplus to acquire rifles.They are vintage M-16s and will be converted to semi-auto, with the exception of two or three examples.

 

[WC145]

The local S.O. issues regular semi-auto AR-15's. Don't know about the other local depts.
I have to buy my own. I sold my AR last year and got a SIG 556 Classic. I like it much better than the AR.

 

[David Sinko]

One neighboring jurisdiction has full auto patrol rifles. They are vintage M-16 surplus lowers with new manufacture uppers with 10" barrels. While the short barrel is handy, I have to wonder about full auto. Military applications of full auto generally involve breaking up an ambush or preventing your position from being overrun, so when you really need full auto, you need lots of it. This department's policy on the use of full auto is in the process of being written so they are not actually using it yet. But I am eager to see under what circumstances full auto is allowed or even encouraged during patrol use.

Dave Sinko

 

[thomasinaz]

We also have surplus M16s available. Some carry them and some just regular ARs. Full auto fire is included in parts of our rifle qual course, for those using the 16s.

 

[sheriffoconee]

One neighboring jurisdiction has full auto patrol rifles. They are vintage M-16 surplus lowers with new manufacture uppers with 10" barrels. While the short barrel is handy, I have to wonder about full auto. Military applications of full auto generally involve breaking up an ambush or preventing your position from being overrun, so when you really need full auto, you need lots of it. This department's policy on the use of full auto is in the process of being written so they are not actually using it yet. But I am eager to see under what circumstances full auto is allowed or even encouraged during patrol use.

Dave Sinko

The requirement of select fire for patrol use is an agency decision, but I can't find any reason to issue select fire weapons to my patrol division. The one issue that a rifle round has settled for our agency is a good example of the use of a rifle....shot was at 60 yards, the suspect was advancing on a deputy with a stolen Sigma 40 caliber handgun....the rifle shot shattered his shooting forearm and entered his heart....
The patrol rifle has a VERY valid need on the road.....not sure select fire is a requirement....

 

[nicky4968]

Not an EBR. I do know of several rural agencies here in the West that still have Model 28 Thompsons in their arsenals. The standing orders are, except for Russian invasion, they are not to be touched.
In case of Russian invasion, you must file a triplicate form to be signed by the Sheriff and two County Commissioners.

 

[wlmccann]

The local Police Department and County Sheriff got M-16's after the LA shootout. I scrounged up a batch of auto blocks that fit between the pistol grip and lower receiver and block movement of the selector to the full auto position. I offered to install them on all the rifles at no charge and was turned down. I don't want anyone to feel I am disparaging the officers,or law enforcement in general, but I knew most of them in both departments at that time and most really didn't have any business with full auto. Mostly from a training standpoint, though there were a couple that probably shouldn't have been allowed issue sidearms let alone true assault rifles. Takes a lot of practice to be really proficient with full auto fire and a lot of small departments don't have the training budget to provide this. It has yet to be demonstrated there is any need for full auto fire in any incidents here. I see an ever increasing militarization of law enforcement here and in general, particularly among the younger officers.

 

[sigp220.45]

I've got a select-fire MP5/10mm. The issued M-4s are semi-auto only.