Disarming Citizens... What History Teaches

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I've been an amateur WWII historian (student? enthusiast? whatever) since my single digit years.

In '05, I did a european tour playing a band. One leg was two weeks in Germany. I saw more of Germany than some germans have and talked with hundreds of german folks. It was an incredible experience.

I gotta tell ya, knowing what I know of the history of that country, it made my head spin. Using my experience with the people I interacted with as a point of reference, it was incomprehensible to me to understand how Hitler could have happened. The only word I can use to remotely describe the vibe over there is...well...the way America used to be "civilized" except there are no guns (officially, anyway). I can't count to how many people that I said, "Y'know, if you knew me back in the States, you'd prob'ly not be this nice to me." meaning back here, I was just another schlub from down the street. But the german (british, french, dutch, and belgian, for that matter) people were amazing.

Incidentally, we had a german warmup act on tour with us and one member was a retired customs officer whose father was an SS tank commander. Some interesting conversations took place. He said guns were illegal but a lot of folks still had them.

Another surprising bit of insight occurred when we did a gig in Ulm. There was a huge amount of young, BIG ol' boys with major violent attitudes in the crowd. With their uber-short haircuts,you could easily imagine the distinctive shaped helmets on their heads. It occurred to me that I bet a large group of these type guys joined the Nazi ranks back in the day just so they could kill SOMEBODY and get away with it.

Of course overall, Germany and the world in general was a different place back in the Thirties.

Sorry, the previous references to Germany got me started.

As much as I loved it, and have been invited to move over there to work, it'll never happen. Not willing to give up my guns to do it.

May God PLEASE bless the U.S.A.
 
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Do they teach about slavery ? About the 3/5ths compromise? Do they teach about the slaughter of the first Americans by the European immigrants? The camps for Japanese Americans? Lynchings?

Probably not. Just the usual leave it to Beaver 1950s sanitized version.

Haveing just left the public education system, the problem is not the lack of the subject matter being taught. Everything mentioned was covered in my classes in hih school. Today's youth just ignore it for the most part. It made me sick to watch.
 
if I recall correctly Germany's strict gun laws pre-dated Hitler and the Third Reich. Hitler didn't have to disarm German citizens....secondly Hitler was elected , he didn't
take over Germany by force he did so with devisive propaganda and fear.

for arguements sake let's say every German household was armed. how many Germans in the 1930's would have taken up arms against the SS , or the regular army?

as Germany militarized the average German man was indeed well armed.

while there were several attempts on Hilter's life by military officers there were no armed revolts against the Reich.

I think in the final analysis it would not have made any difference if German households had guns or not...

Perhaps. However, it might have made a difference if Jewish German households had had guns and the sense to use them. Of course, those are two pretty big "ifs." Not all US citizens have the sense to use them. Surely the percentage is lower among Germans, lower yet among Jews, and a lost cause among German Jews. And that's if they had them, which they didn't.

Maybe I'm making your point.
 
Perhaps. However, it might have made a difference if Jewish German households had had guns and the sense to use them. Of course, those are two pretty big "ifs." Not all US citizens have the sense to use them. Surely the percentage is lower among Germans, lower yet among Jews, and a lost cause among German Jews. And that's if they had them, which they didn't.

Maybe I'm making your point.


Hmm. Tell that to the Jews of Warsaw or the Jews of Israel. These people fought.
 
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