hannstv
Member
I have never had children but would be in big trouble for treating my horses like that. He's a judge?
Whipping or Child Abuse!
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First I want to make the observation that bootlegging is possibly a worse offense in a judges house than mine.My grandmothers liked switches,that you cut for them and brought to them.My dad was fond of his frat paddle from college.
Had ATO tatooed across my but many times
.I believe the guy stepped out of line simply because he delivered it while emotional and angry to be effectively it must be done calmly and clinically.Also before critisizing him too stongly we need to look at history.How often did this happen?WHY?(why being a very big Q,seen my girlfriends son get it over something seemingly small,but it was the straw that broke the camels back,and based on constant BAD,horrible,behavior and he had been pushing it as hard as he could for weeks cuz he had the I'm in highschool you cant spank me anymore )
A few weeks ago my oldest son,who will be 15 this weekend,told me he still remembered the spanking he got when he got caught on the bed with the SKS on his lap fondling it.I lit that behind up.He was only 3 or so.Not only does he remember it hes safer with firearms than most adults,doesnt touch them without permission,is allowed high volume target practice,and hasnt had to have a whipping in YEARS.He's a darn good kid,andunderstands that if all else fails,there is the final option.Consequenses are real,learn it now or regret it later.
writerinmo
US Veteran
The video was recorded seven years ago. She says she just uploaded it because of a phone conversation with him that upset her. Hmmmm...
The whipping was because she basically illegally downloaded music files. I've raised three kids to maturity, and every one of them got spanked several times during their 19,26,28 years, but never with a belt, and I was in control of my temper the entire time.
Everyone is in a rush to judge this man without full knowledge of the situation, you see one tape of a few minutes duration and have no idea what sort of behavior this girl has exhibited over the time before the man finally lost his cool. Easy to judge from afar... but IMHO he made a mistake, sure he lost it for a few minutes, but it was SEVEN YEARS AGO...
To those of you who raised perfect children who never "pushed your buttons", I say lucky you. The rest of us that had children who knew just how to get on your last nerve and do the fandango on it know that it's a fine line before an ***-whoopin comes along. Tape it? Man, I'd a' expected a whopping after that...
The whipping was because she basically illegally downloaded music files. I've raised three kids to maturity, and every one of them got spanked several times during their 19,26,28 years, but never with a belt, and I was in control of my temper the entire time.
Everyone is in a rush to judge this man without full knowledge of the situation, you see one tape of a few minutes duration and have no idea what sort of behavior this girl has exhibited over the time before the man finally lost his cool. Easy to judge from afar... but IMHO he made a mistake, sure he lost it for a few minutes, but it was SEVEN YEARS AGO...
To those of you who raised perfect children who never "pushed your buttons", I say lucky you. The rest of us that had children who knew just how to get on your last nerve and do the fandango on it know that it's a fine line before an ***-whoopin comes along. Tape it? Man, I'd a' expected a whopping after that...
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
I stand corrected: The Bible verse itself reads, "He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him. Proverbs 13:24 (NIV)".
Still, the verse in essence sounds the same to me.
I have seen, (Not my daughter, but elsewhere,) kids actualy swear and say vulger things to their parents. When things get that far out of hand what do you do? Actualy, the battle had to be lost far, far before that to get to that point. In my case outside of a few light spankings as a small kid that I dont remember, I dont recall any problem. My dad was as big and tough as they come and he didnt have to do anything but give me that "look".
I do recall him spanking my sister when she was about 8. We had went to a carnival. I rode everything but she was timid and didnt. When we were leaveing she didnt want to go, but wanted to go back and ride the rides. We were driveing through a jam packed intersection leaveing the fairgrounds. She opened her door and tried jumping out of the car with it moveing. Pa stopped right in the middle of the intersection and busted her butt so hard even I started feeling sorry for her. Horns were blowing as pa had stopped traffic as he was disiplineing her.
I said I never spanked my daughter, but just remember once when I did. My ex had ran off with another married man so I wasnt around my daughter that much. I got her for a weekend when she was about 11 or 12. I had found out from my ex that she was a big problem at the time with her. I was sitting in the house barefoot and asked her what was going on. She grabbed her suitcase and walked out the door with me yelling for her to get back in the house. Remember, she was about 70 miles away from her mothers house! I got my boots on and followed her down the street repeatedly telling her to get back in the house. About a block away where I didnt know those neighbors she stopped and wanted to argue. For some reason there was a number of people out on the street. I again ordered her to go home and she gave me some lip. So what do you gentil experts recomend? I picked her up and put her over my shoulder. It was like picking up a wildcat! She bit my forearm drawing blood, also kicking and scratching. It surprised me and I did spank her butt--hard! Some neighbors were asking each other should they call the police! I told them to back off, she was 70 miles from her mother and I couldnt let her walk off. They did back off and didnt call.
The point here is outsiders dont know whats really going on. This judge probley could tell you his story too, but ouside of a light explaination wasnt going to air out the dirt. When I was younger I was a lot more judgemental myself and thought myself a good profiler too. The older I get, the less judgemental I am.
Just today my wife and I was in IHOP. Very few people were in there, but a guy my age or older came in with two women. (I am 70). I was trying to figure out one of the ladys as she appeared either to have dementia, alzheimers, drunk early in the day, or on drugs. The other woman, probley was a daughter in law, not sure. She tried to take her to either the bathroom or the car. She was hanging onto a partitian. Now they were fighting. The guy hollered for the woman to go put her in the car. We were leaveing. I had noticed the old boy comeing in and he was very crippled up in the knees, I am too but nothing like him. I got up and went to him and asked if he wanted me to help. He said something about the woman haveing multable surroiss (sp?). Now I never heard of that disease affecting the mind as it appeared this woman was demostraiting. Maybe I should have explored the event more, but it looked somewhat like they were getting it straightend out as we were leaveing.
By the way, today I and my daughter, both of us couldnt be more pleased and proud of the other, but we did have our moments 20 years ago!
Still, the verse in essence sounds the same to me.
I have seen, (Not my daughter, but elsewhere,) kids actualy swear and say vulger things to their parents. When things get that far out of hand what do you do? Actualy, the battle had to be lost far, far before that to get to that point. In my case outside of a few light spankings as a small kid that I dont remember, I dont recall any problem. My dad was as big and tough as they come and he didnt have to do anything but give me that "look".
I do recall him spanking my sister when she was about 8. We had went to a carnival. I rode everything but she was timid and didnt. When we were leaveing she didnt want to go, but wanted to go back and ride the rides. We were driveing through a jam packed intersection leaveing the fairgrounds. She opened her door and tried jumping out of the car with it moveing. Pa stopped right in the middle of the intersection and busted her butt so hard even I started feeling sorry for her. Horns were blowing as pa had stopped traffic as he was disiplineing her.
I said I never spanked my daughter, but just remember once when I did. My ex had ran off with another married man so I wasnt around my daughter that much. I got her for a weekend when she was about 11 or 12. I had found out from my ex that she was a big problem at the time with her. I was sitting in the house barefoot and asked her what was going on. She grabbed her suitcase and walked out the door with me yelling for her to get back in the house. Remember, she was about 70 miles away from her mothers house! I got my boots on and followed her down the street repeatedly telling her to get back in the house. About a block away where I didnt know those neighbors she stopped and wanted to argue. For some reason there was a number of people out on the street. I again ordered her to go home and she gave me some lip. So what do you gentil experts recomend? I picked her up and put her over my shoulder. It was like picking up a wildcat! She bit my forearm drawing blood, also kicking and scratching. It surprised me and I did spank her butt--hard! Some neighbors were asking each other should they call the police! I told them to back off, she was 70 miles from her mother and I couldnt let her walk off. They did back off and didnt call.
The point here is outsiders dont know whats really going on. This judge probley could tell you his story too, but ouside of a light explaination wasnt going to air out the dirt. When I was younger I was a lot more judgemental myself and thought myself a good profiler too. The older I get, the less judgemental I am.
Just today my wife and I was in IHOP. Very few people were in there, but a guy my age or older came in with two women. (I am 70). I was trying to figure out one of the ladys as she appeared either to have dementia, alzheimers, drunk early in the day, or on drugs. The other woman, probley was a daughter in law, not sure. She tried to take her to either the bathroom or the car. She was hanging onto a partitian. Now they were fighting. The guy hollered for the woman to go put her in the car. We were leaveing. I had noticed the old boy comeing in and he was very crippled up in the knees, I am too but nothing like him. I got up and went to him and asked if he wanted me to help. He said something about the woman haveing multable surroiss (sp?). Now I never heard of that disease affecting the mind as it appeared this woman was demostraiting. Maybe I should have explored the event more, but it looked somewhat like they were getting it straightend out as we were leaveing.
By the way, today I and my daughter, both of us couldnt be more pleased and proud of the other, but we did have our moments 20 years ago!
venomballistics
Member
I heard "games" not "music"
seems immaterial till you realize the mass of viri, spyware and malware that often comes with it.
but still I smell a whole lot more back story
dcxplant
Member
"Actualy, the battle had to be lost far, far before that to get to that point."
Amen to that ferilmerril.
Parenting ain't for the lazy!!!
Amen to that ferilmerril.
Parenting ain't for the lazy!!!
I grew up with whippings and a hell of a lot of hollering.Swore I wouldnt raise mine that way and I didnt.They are in there twenties now ,independent and successful.They have far better attitudes than I do.The guy is an ***.If you have to resort to whippings and hollerin to get a kid to do whats right,you aint too bright.
First I want to make the observation that bootlegging is possibly a worse offense in a judges house than mine.My grandmothers liked switches,that you cut for them and brought to them.My dad was fond of his frat paddle from college.
I believe the guy stepped out of line simply because he delivered it while emotional and angry to be effectively it must be done calmly and clinically.Also before critisizing him too stongly we need to look at history.How often did this happen?WHY?(why being a very big Q,seen my girlfriends son get it over something seemingly small,but it was the straw that broke the camels back,and based on constant BAD,horrible,behavior and he had been pushing it as hard as he could for weeks cuz he had the I'm in highschool you cant spank me anymore )
A few weeks ago my oldest son,who will be 15 this weekend,told me he still remembered the spanking he got when he got caught on the bed with the SKS on his lap fondling it.I lit that behind up.He was only 3 or so.Not only does he remember it hes safer with firearms than most adults,doesnt touch them without permission,is allowed high volume target practice,and hasnt had to have a whipping in YEARS.He's a darn good kid,andunderstands that if all else fails,there is the final option.Consequenses are real,learn it now or regret it later.
Yeah...leaving an SKS within reach of a 3 year old, and he's the one who got the beating?
That guy was off the wall WRONG. He's a freakin sadist. These are the people that sit in judgement of others. You think any kid that went through his court would be allowed to stay home if a video like that was brought up?
Don't make me laugh. He is a SCUMBAG.
Don't make me laugh. He is a SCUMBAG.
venomballistics
Member
your quite fortunate.
in the family I was raised, we ended up with 3 of us being conservatives and one a lib ...
its a matter of base personality.
some of these base personalities absolutely do require vigorous correctional techniques.
I was all of 17, my father a truck driver, so that what needed doin in his absence was done by me.
the task at hand was repair of a damaged banister on the staircase to be followed by replacing a piece of drywall when my younger sister came from her room brandishing a knife in order to leverage my mother into letting her go out and score more drugs ... like the day before which put the home repairs on my todo list in the first place.
the chunk of wood I was working on got broke across the back of her legs which put her to the floor where I then stepped on her wrist holding the knife then proceeded to use what force necessary to cause her to volunteer the weapon.
if taped im sure id be demonized .... I plumb had it with the violence holding me hostage.
funny thing is ... after the use of force her behavior started to improve !!!
didnt do anything for her lib viewpoint but less time and money spent fixing the house as she destroyed it felt like being released from a POW camp.
I cant judge the man
ThirtyAcres
Member
I would venture that the hateful language hurt worse and longer than the actual beating.
My dad whipped me with a belt when I was growing up. I deserved it.
He always made me sit in a closed room for an hour, then came in and explained what I did wrong and asked me if I understood why I was being disciplined.
He never raised his voice, used foul language, or degraded me verbally.
I look back now and realize that after the sting wore off, I probably loved him more after he whipped me than before.
He always used to say that it hurt him more than it hurt me. Sounded stupid then----but now that I have a kid, I truly understand.
I would like the judge to go a couple of rounds with someone his own size.
My dad whipped me with a belt when I was growing up. I deserved it.
He always made me sit in a closed room for an hour, then came in and explained what I did wrong and asked me if I understood why I was being disciplined.
He never raised his voice, used foul language, or degraded me verbally.
I look back now and realize that after the sting wore off, I probably loved him more after he whipped me than before.
He always used to say that it hurt him more than it hurt me. Sounded stupid then----but now that I have a kid, I truly understand.
I would like the judge to go a couple of rounds with someone his own size.
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Well no one can argue that things are getting worse and not better in this country...I happen to think that its not a coincidence things have taken a nosedive with the disappearance of prayer and whippings in school.
feralmerril
Absent Comrade
I watch that commercial where the guy promise`s that if you buy his book, you will be able to stop your out of control kid in a minuet or less. I am too cheap to buy the book and my kid is gone. Have any of you bought the book? I sure want to know what holds and pressure points he teachs!
Straightshooter2
US Veteran
My father rarely disciplined anyone in the family. It was a job normally done by my mother and she would make us go cut the limb off of the weeping willow tree. Plus woe be unto you if you cut off a little twig instead of a good size switch. It made such an impression on us that recently my brother was serving a warrant and when he pulled up in the yard, there was a big willow tree there. My brother looked at the tree and said to himself, I wonder how mom is doing. He called me right after he served the warrant to check on her.
CW
CW
ThirtyAcres said:
I agree with you here...he wasn't in the right mindset to properly discipline her, but he wasn't doing her any lasting physical harm...compared to a couple I got and deserved...that's swatting with a belt.
This also pretty much describes how it went for me too.
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feralmerril
Absent Comrade
Fox news says the fathers lawyer says she made the video public because he threatned to take back her mercedes and other financial support because she wanted to quit college. Still think he`s a demon?
She is 24 years old, this happened 8 years ago. A father supporting a 24 year old daughter in college and giveing her a mercedes benz? Sure sounds like he hates her to me!
She is 24 years old, this happened 8 years ago. A father supporting a 24 year old daughter in college and giveing her a mercedes benz? Sure sounds like he hates her to me!
dcxplant
Member
...sounds like that whuppin he gave her worked out really well.
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