It's hard to beat the old-time gun writers...

I thought Askins jr was an interesting character - read his autobiography. Understand he was quite controversial. Read some articles of his in Guns magazine which struck me as a bit liberal, he seemed to have admiration for things like shooting tests that hunters have to pass in Scandinavia and Europe and he was scornful of some American hunters' standards of markmanship.
 
Ken Waters was a certainly a gun writer; much of his stuff was handloading-related (See the "Pet Loads" book from Wolfe Pub.) He wrote for HANDLOADER magazine for more than thirty years. Some of the guys on the original list at the beginning of this thread were merely storytellers. Some folks like that, but one didn't always learn from what they wrote.
 
John Taffin does a good job with his articles and pays homage to some of the writers in the OP's list.
Mas Ayoob has been a favorite of mine too.

Not much to choose from today if you take away all the sun glass wearin', ex- "operators" (I hate that word) that all wear the same tactical pants.

Most write about whatever's newest and coolest. I'm not interested because I'm neither.

GF
 
I have The Gun Digest Book Of 9mm Handguns on my bookshelf.
One of the author's is Dean Grennell.
Started me wondering if I'd remembered wrong when you wrote his name with a i.

I stand corrected - he passed away a number of years ago, and my memory was hazy on the spelling. He was a good one, for sure.

John
 
I thought Askins jr was an interesting character - read his autobiography. Understand he was quite controversial. Read some articles of his in Guns magazine which struck me as a bit liberal, he seemed to have admiration for things like shooting tests that hunters have to pass in Scandinavia and Europe and he was scornful of some American hunters' standards of markmanship.

I also read Unrepentant Sinner. Askins was in many respects a soldier of fortune, and he frankly didn't give a damn what anyone else thought. Few know that he was a national pistol champion, even inventing a special chambering and cartridge that enabled him to shoot centerfire with the aplomb of a .22 rimfire. The powers that be subsequently outlawed its use in competition. He was definitely not a saint; some of the things he did in life were, well, of questionable moral turpitude. Still, he was interesting to read. His book was quite well named.

John
 
Paladin, thanks for bringing this subject up. One of the things I've collected over the years were old sporting magazines, focusing on those prior to WWII. My general interest when buying them dealt with canoe, or canoeing related stories or ad's.

The history of quite a few smaller canoe companies are shrouded in mystery and a magazine ad was a good way to dial in the fact that they were at least in business at that particular time. There were many a seller on eBay that would look through the old mag's they had listed for me looking to see if any canoe ad's were in there.

One night I'll have to rummage around and find my stacks of vintage magazines just to see what I can find in them that's gun related. Articles & ad's that I never paid much attention to at the time. :o
 
The problem with today's gunwriters is that they are always being compared to the Greats of the Past. Charlie Askins Jr. was as close as we'll get to a genuine Old West gunfighter, Elmer Keith came of age when the Frontier was still very real, the others had a combination of life experiences-military service, law enforcement, etc. that today seems much harder to acquire and many grew up in an era when being a "gun nut" was the mark of an enthusiast and was part of the general culture.
I recall an article by Skeeter Skelton in which he matter of factly talks of hunting without bothering with licenses or observing game laws, as he put it "If that sound unethical, let me remind you that store bought meat was a seldom thing during the Depression." How many of us have experinced that?
An analogy I use is with cookbooks. When one of my girlfriends kidded me about using 1940s and 50 vintage cookbooks I told her look through mine, then look through the new ones-other than using a microwave, what difference is there?
 
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Cooper, in particular, was entertainingly pithy. Here are some typical quotes:

"The answer is usually simple. Accepting the question is difficult."

"Since lawsuits are all the rage, we hear rumblings about the matter of the firing-pin-block in the Series 80 Colt. It has been suggested that anyone who removes this questionable device from the pistol may be risking litigation. If so, a counter-suit would seem proper. The firing-pin-block, with wear, can prevent firing of the weapon. If the owner of a Series 80 hears a click when he hopes for a bang, and dies as a result of return-fire, he ought to be able to sue posthumously."


One need not wonder what he would have thought about the ugly hole on the side of many S&W revolvers...

John
 
Well John, you gave me something to think about that will bug me until I do it. I have a stack of old mag's that are segregated from the others due to a musty odor so I went there and took the first one off of that stack, Hunting & Fishing from June of 1946.

I then started flippin' through the pages and came across this, right next to an article about the Japanese "Baby" Nambu 7mm Officer's Model Pistol.

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I have already gone through all of my magazines once and scanned every wooden boat & canoe related ad & article and have discs of that material hangin' around.

From the looks of it I'll have discs of gun related articles & ad's when I eventually get around to the stacks of mags I have stashed around here.

Your list of authors, as well as those mentioned by others will certainly be on my mind as I start my time consuming journey. In the past mag's would come in as small lots or one at a time so it seemed like a much less daunting task than it does now.

Thanks again, I think......:confused:
 
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When I first got into firearms I thought the gun writers were almost god-like. Then as I started to learn more about guns, and the gun writers, I realized not everything they wrote was all that profound, or true. There are some names on that list that I still highly value their opinions on, and there are a few that I place right along with the current crop of writers. I guess it had to start somewhere.

I've never read Unrepentant Sinner, but it is on my short list. Other books that Charles Askins Jr. wrote are not only informative they are entertaining as well. I've heard people claim he was nothing but a cold blooded killer, which I've heard was started by another name on the list, but to me that doesn't matter if he has the information I'm looking for. Which might explain why I enjoyed John Wesley Hardins' autobiography so much. And if Verne Miller had authored a book, I'd have a copy of it too.
 
When I was a pre-teen boy I inherited my grandfather's .38/40 SAA. I knew little about it but I did read Outdoor Life religiously. I wrote a note to Jack O'Connor and soon a young boy was thrilled beyond words to get a letter from O'Connor telling me that my 1st Gen. Colt was an early smokeless powder model and much more of it's history. From that point on, I rarely missed any of his writings.

As I look at my library right now, I see these tomes from him: 1)The Hunting Rifle, 2)The Rifle Book, 3)The Shotgun Book, 4)The Complete Book of Shooting, 5)The Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns, 6)Horse and Buggy West, 7)Jack O'Connor's Big Game Hunts, and 8)The Art of Big Game Hunting

Although I read and enjoyed all of the other writers listed, I can think of no other single one that had a stronger impact on my growth in woodcraft and love of the hunt. His tales of hunts with his life partner and hunting buddy, Eleanor, helped me set my goals to find a wife who shared my love of the outdoors...I was successful beyond my wildest dreams.

Thanks for that TOO, Jack!

Bob
 
Does no one else consider Brian Pearce to be a very good writer with oodles of field experience? I respect him considerably. He appears in, "Handloader" and in, "Rifle."

And a pretty good case could be made for Sheriff Jim Wilson as a sort of latter-day Skeeter.

Col. Rex Appplegate didn't write much in gun magazines, but his book, "Kill or Get Killed" is a classic. This guy was the primary trainer for OSS agents, later CIA.

I only met Applegate once. Had lunch with him and a couple of other guys at a Ruger function for the press during a NRA convention. It was Ruger's 30th Anniversary, and they put on a pretty good feed for the gun media. Rex was modest, and amused when I told him that I had my dad's 1944 edition of his book. He laughed and said, "Well, I was certainly thinner in the photos then."

I never met Jack O'Connor, but corresponded for years. He was a bit of an elitist, like Cooper, but if you wrote to him on decent stationery and could spell, he was nicer than I've heard he could be to those whom he considered to be unwashed rednecks. I used to write for an editor who knew Jack in person, and he said that Jack was a little uppity and gruff. I know he was in a college fraternity, so that doesn't surprise me, given my limited experience with frat rats. He was also a college professor, which accounts for some of his attitude, I think. But his wisdom, not limited to the .270, was impressive. He wasn't too heavily into handguns, and didn't know much about Bianchi and Safariland when I asked. Referred me to Lawrence, with whose products he was comfortable. Jack had a droll, witty style that I liked a lot. He died in 1978, I believe, on an ocean cruise with his beloved wife, who was often featured in his hunts.

No one has mentioned John Wootters. That's spelled like I did it, although I've seen numerous misspellings of his last name. I don't know if he was really a gun writer or more of a hunting writer. He certainly did write about guns, though, and Bill Jordan once told me that John was a true wordsmith, whereas he, Bill, was just a shooter who wrote. Jordan was being excessively modest, but Wootters was as skilled with the written word as he was with a camera, and he was a superb photographer, of animals as well as of guns and terrain. I believe he's still living, but he retired about the time that Bob Petersen died. (Wootters wrote mainly for Petersen's in his later career.)

John's books, especially, "Hunting Trophy Whitetails" are well worth seeking out.
 
Let's not forget Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting by Ed McGivern. Not sure if he was a prolific writer but a classic.
 
Let's not forget Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting by Ed McGivern. Not sure if he was a prolific writer but a classic.

Prolific, not necessarily; classic, most certainly; one of the most laboriously tedious reads you are likely to find, you bet.

Bob
 
PALADIN,
Thank you for this tread, and I want to add one more writer from this era. Peter Capstick -(I think I have it right) he wrote an article about the great white hunter in the backyard with an air rifle that thought was amazing.
 
I have always enjoyed reading Elmer Keith. It seemed to me that he preferred big heavy bullets and that has always worked for me. I still go back and read his writings. Larry
 
You nailed it! You and I are about the same age and probley read much of the same stuff. One counter point. We have pretty much read it all. A new writer cant come up with new material on old guns and ammo that us old gun enthusiasts havent read multable times before. I seldom read a gun magazine anymore. Even here I am mostly in the lounge for entertainment more than the other gun sections.
It`s kind of like church. When I was a kid my folks took me to church about three times a week. Now when I hear a sermon I have heard it multable times before. Its pretty hard for a new writer to impress us.
Now, I will bet that there are some young guys out there that have actualy shot more rounds and tried out more guns than a lot of those old writers did. But the romance of reading about the early guys is hard to overcome.
Its something like trying to watch the newer young actors in western movies. Us older guys just cant seem to get into it because in our minds none can beat our old heros like JW etc. We tend to dismiss the newer set. To me, even kurt russell is a newbie kid, and he is a good one!

I think most modern gun writer's need to wear Nascar type uniforms. That why we know who owns them.
Guy22
 
The writer that I really miss is the late Finn Aagaard. He was the field editor for the AR. His stories of growing up in East Africa and guiding as a professional hunter in Africa were always great.

I grew up reading Townsend Whelen, Jack O'Conner and ol' Elmer. Finn's hunting stories also rang true.
Ken
 
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