The Slide Fire Stock

well...

400rds in about 1/2hr...

Still issues with the 50rd Drum..... but 8 outa 9 Mags i dumped... FULL AUTO...

My wrist is sore.... so think I was OVER thinking the BIG Drums....


Gunna try some 9mmm Pistols tomorrow and then BACK to AR on Friday


FUN day for sure


Stav

Are you sure the follower isn't off in the drum? I had to take mine apart and re-set it; else it would occasionally drag. It is easy to do - just take the main bolt out of the middle and the two ear flanges. Then you can wind it like you are going to load - the follower pops out. You can re-align it.

When you look at the follower, it is an orange piece with an elastic string. On the elastic string are plastic bullet shapped objects. The string goes through each bullet and sits in a groove within the drum. Each plastic bullet has two holes - one made large enough to hold the string and the other to be the "last bullet" so you can thread the string through it. What I did was put the string in the "thread the string through it" hole all the way up until the last one. This forced the plastic follower and bullets to push towards the front of the drum, removing any drag.

Out of the box, the drum was fine. After 15 mag dumps, I had to re-adjust the drum.

Mike
 
Zen...All kinds of ammo work for you? I still have spuratic issues with mine, but they dont seem to be caused by weight. Used winchester bulk this weekend stuff was gawd awful, FTF every 4-10 rounds, only got maybe 2 full mag dumps. When I was using federal bulk, it worked better, but I still had plenty FTF's. I picked up a couple of these and noticed the indent was on the very edge of the casing. Do you think I am having feeding issues with the mag just not keeping up, or maybe I should do the firing pin spring mod so it hits em a little harder?

The two best results I have had thus far are the CCI Tactical and the Federal Champion 525 bulk box. Both ammo have a waxy coating on them and cycle pretty well.

Winchester 333 has no wax and has the most FTF. These cycle through the magazines the best (really well in the drum) - but not reliable enough.

Mike
 
:D

M&P 15-22
Geissele Hi-Speed National Match - Match Rifle Trigger
SSAR-15 SBS

the geissele dropped straight in no problem, no adjustment required.

works fantastic :D within 2 magazines was doing complete magazine dumps without a hitch.

best results with available ammo was found to be cci mini-mags. remington and wolf bulk was too inconsistent and weak to reliably fire long bursts.

the geissele hammer hits the rounds HARD. not a single fail to fire in ~500 rounds of all sorts of mixed ammo.

after a while the barrel was getting so hot i was afraid the receiver was going to melt!
 
Are you sure the follower isn't off in the drum? I had to take mine apart and re-set it; else it would occasionally drag. It is easy to do - just take the main bolt out of the middle and the two ear flanges. Then you can wind it like you are going to load - the follower pops out. You can re-align it.

When you look at the follower, it is an orange piece with an elastic string. On the elastic string are plastic bullet shapped objects. The string goes through each bullet and sits in a groove within the drum. Each plastic bullet has two holes - one made large enough to hold the string and the other to be the "last bullet" so you can thread the string through it. What I did was put the string in the "thread the string through it" hole all the way up until the last one. This forced the plastic follower and bullets to push towards the front of the drum, removing any drag.

Out of the box, the drum was fine. After 15 mag dumps, I had to re-adjust the drum.

Mike

Thanks... but drum seems Fine..... But if i have issues again.. may Do yer little trick there....

have em Loaded today and my other 19mags for some PLAY time.... Ill try it again....

Have some CCI Blazers on the way... excited to see how those 40gr loads work....


back at ya soon....

Stav
 
quick question for the guys with drums....i'm using a Chiappa 22lr upper on a DPMS lower,SIG522 and CMMG Ciener Style mags.....will the drum you'all are usin' work with my setup?.....btw what drum is it?

Blazer's work the best in my setup...
 
There are 2 that I know of. One is the Promag which I think only fits the 10/22. The one you want is the other one made by Black Dog Machine. It was also originally for the 10/22 but BDM made a couple of tower conversions for it. One for the 22 upper mags like the BDM ones and one for the S&W 15-22. I think it comes a a kit where you replace the tower with the one you want to use it for.
 
What a FUN FREAKING Day:D

My wife Chi and I had probably the Best QUALITY time we have had in Months......

Now for my Review of the Slide Fire Stalk.....:)

Ok.... 3lb trigger is awesome... JP trigger works flawless.....
Weight is a HUGE issue...... I had to pull off my Fore Grip.... 3x9 Scope.... and just go with Refract Site and Angled foregrip (see pic)....... and I was dialed


Went to the DESERT with 19-25rd mags and 2 Blackdog 50rd Mags to PLAY with......... ended up shooting about 700rds thru the 15-22.... what a FUN and relaxing day.....

Wife and i played Shooting games... Sun WORSHIPED.... and had a BLAST...

ok More Review.....


Could not be consistent with Blackdog 50rd drums..... to much weight i think..... but as i perfect my Technique it could be done...
Magpul Angled foregrip is AWESOME........ thumb Behind and 2 fingers in front and FULLY AUTO is accomplished... keeps my Hand off the Mag....


By the end of our day i PUMMELED my reactive BALL and discharged the last 8 MAGS Full Auto.......


Fun times for sure


For the aprox $450 you judge by the SMILE on my face if it was PRICELESS and WORTH the $$$$$


Stav

Chi and I playing inthe Desert.... S&W M&P AR15-22 Slide fire - YouTube
Is that a Widmer Brothers? :p
 
OH YA...... Pacific NW Pride and Joy...

Have a pony in my Keg-O-Rator.......


For those AFTER shooting parties


LOL
nice - wid' is probably in my top 5 fav breweries...up there with victory and rogue
 
Fun day today.... about 1000rds in her....

1st off... do NOT go cheap on a trigger.... the JP Trigger i got is fine...... but i shoulda just got the Timney

And is on ORDER today...

by the end of the day it just would not unload FULLY... thought it was DIRTY but after looking The Trigger JUST isnt setup PERFECT

SOOOOOOOOO

Spending the xtra $$$ and moving forward

THAT SAID....

3 buddies today all just kept LOADINg mags and shooting my TOY...

the 2 AR15 .223 got about 50rds in em TOTAL...... my 15-22 was working tripple time....LOL

was a HOT one today... pushing 100deg

Think all in all about 1700rds got LOBBED from .22, .223, 9mm, .38, .357, .40, .45, and tactical 12ga oh and my 30-06....

FUN FREAKING DAY!!!!
 
glad I went for the timney first in that case!

On a separate note, I found a cheap way to improve the grip on the slide fire, fits pretty good, not perfect, but I am much happier with this feel!
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Amazon.com: BLACKHAWK! Rubber Grip Sleeve (Slip-On): Sports & Outdoors
 
MIDWAY ROCKS!!!!

I just got to check my emails.... Midway has a SALE on the timney trigger.... $188.99 $21 off normal Price

HEY... i just ordered it and is landing Friday... quick email... and MINUTES later my CREDIT for $21 is invoiced...

Great Customer service..... earned EVEN more of my Business for that


Stav
 
I recently have been trying to get my 15-22 to work w/ my slidefire. I ended up going w/ a Bill Springfield 3lb trigger. The trigger feels a LOT better than the stock one, but it still feels a tad too hard for the slidefire. I did get the gun to fire a 3rd burst only 2 times out of 125 rounds. It seems my slidefire travels back and forth too far? I have the new version of the 15-22 which requires no modification to the slidefire to fit. Im considering purchasing the JP yellow springs which should take my trigger down to 2.5lbs. It seems when I pull the trigger now its a tad bit harder than 3lbs.. but I don't have a pull gauge so this is all an assumption. Im guessing it could be my technique too.. its a little frustrating. Any opinions?
 
I recently have been trying to get my 15-22 to work w/ my slidefire. I ended up going w/ a Bill Springfield 3lb trigger. The trigger feels a LOT better than the stock one, but it still feels a tad too hard for the slidefire. I did get the gun to fire a 3rd burst only 2 times out of 125 rounds. It seems my slidefire travels back and forth too far? I have the new version of the 15-22 which requires no modification to the slidefire to fit. Im considering purchasing the JP yellow springs which should take my trigger down to 2.5lbs. It seems when I pull the trigger now its a tad bit harder than 3lbs.. but I don't have a pull gauge so this is all an assumption. Im guessing it could be my technique too.. its a little frustrating. Any opinions?

What Ammo Ya Using?

Strip down weight as well and try that

be sure your TRIGGER is working Correctly, adjusted Correctly, Thats my CURRENT issue with my JP Trigger.. thus Timney on its way...

technique can be an issue, but Ive seen when all are working properly I was dumping 6 outa 8 mags FULLY

Check everything and hang in there...

Stav
 
What Ammo Ya Using?

Strip down weight as well and try that

be sure your TRIGGER is working Correctly, adjusted Correctly, Thats my CURRENT issue with my JP Trigger.. thus Timney on its way...

technique can be an issue, but Ive seen when all are working properly I was dumping 6 outa 8 mags FULLY

Check everything and hang in there...

Stav

Stav,

Thanks for the reply. I have been using the cheap Remington Thunderbolt ammo. Which I do indeed can feel some rounds are underpowered. I just stuck with it because there are youtube videos of people using it with great success on the 15-22 w/ a slidefire. I think part of my problem is that I have never used the slidefire on a .223. I have one but the buffer tube needs changed to milspec in order for it to slide properly. I have not got to change that out yet. So to an extent I have no technique on how to use the stock with such a low recoil rifle. It seems my stock travels too far forward. It seems if the travel path was shorter it would work better.

So my answer to all of this... I am almost done building my 5.45x39 AR, lol.. cheap full auto w/ some *** behind it, lol. All joking aside tho.. I would really like to get this 15-22 working with it... guess im gonna order the yellow springs to lighten up the trigger a little more. Either that or get a hold of a trigger gauge to see exactly where Bill set this "3lb" trigger at.
 
40gr Blazer's have a little more recoil of any of the bulk 22 i have tried....before i got a Timmey 3# i had my stock trigger at 3 3/4# with yellow springs(measured with Lyman) and couldn't get full mag dump with any bulk ammo...just couple rd burst.....only ammo i could get to run full mag dumps was with Aquila Supermaximum Hyper Velocity @ 1725fps but it's to high price for full-auto play...
 
I had GOOD success with the federal Bulk ammo, Blazers didnt have as much POOP butt did ok...

In was at about 4lbs with JP Trigger... so hope to be at 3lbs or less with timney

sp74supra ditch the Remington, get a box of federal and try those.... bet it helps

Bill Springfield 3lb trigger is the stock system just Modified, Correct? Says he puts the JP Spring in. is yer spring Yellow? That could be yer biggest issue Bud..... take a pic of yer trigger and post it....

too much TRAVEL in Stock shouldn't effect things... it really barely moves when ya get the technique down.. Try holding the upper MAG area with slight pressure... Move the RIFLE forward and keep STOCK against yer shoulder... basically pull the trigger to yer finger, not the other way around


Change ammo and try again bud....


Stav
 
I had GOOD success with the federal Bulk ammo, Blazers didnt have as much POOP butt did ok...

In was at about 4lbs with JP Trigger... so hope to be at 3lbs or less with timney

sp74supra ditch the Remington, get a box of federal and try those.... bet it helps

Bill Springfield 3lb trigger is the stock system just Modified, Correct? Says he puts the JP Spring in. is yer spring Yellow? That could be yer biggest issue Bud..... take a pic of yer trigger and post it....

too much TRAVEL in Stock shouldn't effect things... it really barely moves when ya get the technique down.. Try holding the upper MAG area with slight pressure... Move the RIFLE forward and keep STOCK against yer shoulder... basically pull the trigger to yer finger, not the other way around


Change ammo and try again bud....


Stav

i tried Federals with just the opposite to Blazers....i guess different setups run different stuff....
 
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