Ejection Issue

[Peter Merkin]

New guy here. I never had a need to post questions about my M&P 15-22 (performance edition) because it has been flawless through 500 rounds, easy to maintain, and a blast to shoot. Well, then I was politely informed that perhaps my rifle does have a flaw.

I was shooting at an outdoor .22 range when a gentleman next to me pointed out that the ejected casings were hitting him and his son (sitting at the bench about 4 feet away). I always considered that normal, but he claimed that the ejected shells should be hitting what he called the deflector (that piece of hard plastic where a forward assist would be on an AR). He mentioned that the extractor needed to be adjusted.

Is that correct?? Are casings in this rifle supposed to be ejected to the rear in in some other direction other than straight out or was he just being difficult?

 

[OldRadarTech]

Mine ejects the same as yours, straight out to the right.

 

[Majorlk]

New guy here. I never had a need to post questions about my M&P 15-22 (performance edition) because it has been flawless through 500 rounds, easy to maintain, and a blast to shoot. Well, then I was politely informed that perhaps my rifle does have a flaw.

I was shooting at an outdoor .22 range when a gentleman next to me pointed out that the ejected casings were hitting him and his son (sitting at the bench about 4 feet away). I always considered that normal, but he claimed that the ejected shells should be hitting what he called the deflector (that piece of hard plastic where a forward assist would be on an AR). He mentioned that the extractor needed to be adjusted.

Is that correct?? Are casings in this rifle supposed to be ejected to the rear in in some other direction other than straight out or was he just being difficult?

That little "deflector" is purely cosmetic and does nothing for .22 cases. The ARs eject to the rear and for them, the little deflector does work. .22 cases eject almost straight out to the side - typical of most .22 semi-autos. There is nothing to be adjusted and the guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

A cheap deflector that really works can be made from a short section of 45 degree rail and a piece of rail ladder. See post number 63 in the following thread:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/261609-so-i-decieded-make-brass-deflector-2.html

It works like a charm and drops all fired cases straight down in about a 8-12" circle on the bench or ground.

 

[CJ45lc]

Your rifle is still flawless, keep on shooting

 

[SimpleWeaponSolutions]

That little "deflector" is purely cosmetic and does nothing for .22 cases. The ARs eject to the rear and for them, the little deflector does work. .22 cases eject almost straight out to the side - typical of most .22 semi-autos. There is nothing to be adjusted and the guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

A cheap deflector that really works can be made from a short section of 45 degree rail and a piece of rail ladder. See post number 63 in the following thread:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/261609-so-i-decieded-make-brass-deflector-2.html

It works like a charm and drops all fired cases straight down in about a 8-12" circle on the bench or ground.

There are some great ideas in that thread. I am still working on coming to market with my design. I had to do a redesign on the shield and am waiting for the new ones to come in.

 

[Majorlk]

There are some great ideas in that thread. I am still working on coming to market with my design. I had to do a redesign on the shield and am waiting for the new ones to come in.

We all wait with anticipation ...

The cheap solution works, but it does leave something to be desired esthetically.

 

[Jyezahn]

Yes, working as intended. That guy didn't know *** he was talking about.

 

[rraisley]

As everyone has said, your rifle is performing as it should. Some guns eject differently, but I always try to get to the Left of my shooting buddy, because I'm always getting hit with his shells.

Back when I shot competition bullseye, I always hated the High Standard users, because their shells always hit me, while my Medalist ejected more forward. But I learned to position my opened pistol box to deflect the shells, and didn't worry about it.

 

[Nevada Ed]

Most people will have enough "Class" to make sure their spent cases do not indanger other shooters.................

 

[rraisley]

Most people will have enough "Class" to make sure their spent cases do not indanger other shooters.................

Easy to say, but at our outdoor range, if one person is shooting a rifle at the next position to your left, you're going to get hit by shells. It's just going to happen. I try to stand and shoot my pistols when someone is there, and or alternate with them.

 

[Majorlk]

Most people will have enough "Class" to make sure their spent cases do not indanger other shooters.................

And in many cases (no pun intended) the design of the range ports makes it almost impossible to not hit other shooters with spent cases. This is especially true of semi-improved outdoor ranges.

My range has screens between ports to handle 90 degree ejections, but if the firearm ejects to the rear, anyone standing behind the line will likely get hit, including the RSOs. And then there are the cases that fly OVER the screen to the next port.

 

[Jyezahn]

I wouldn't say an ejected casing Endangers other people necessarily. More of a nuisance for the most part.

 

[Majorlk]

Most of the lady shooters at our range only wear low-cut tops once.

 

[Jyezahn]

Kinda like it when they get little burns there... I always volunteer to help rub in some aloe lotion. :-D

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

Most of the lady shooters at our range only wear low-cut tops once.

And on that note, it's better to have an E.I. problem than and E.D. problem....Yeah, I went there....mods?

 

[Majorlk]

We had one guy with the butt-crack jeans that took two .223 cases down his pants. He was facing away from the port. It was the only time in a year that a shooter has yelled CEASE FIRE.

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

We had one guy with the butt-crack jeans that took two .223 cases down his pants. He was facing away from the port. It was the only time in a year that a shooter has yelled CEASE FIRE.

Was he fixing a broken pipe? I'm trying to understand exactly what was taking place at that moment, and I just can't visualize it. I don't know if I want to, really...lol.

 

[Majorlk]

He had his back to the port and was bending over getting ammo out of a range bag. BIG guy and really baggy pants ...

 

[PainterlyShotgroup]

He had his back to the port and was bending over getting ammo out of a range bag. BIG guy and really baggy pants ...

Tell me the shooter didn't see that and purposely open fire...haha!

 

[rraisley]

My son was leaning over picking up my .45 brass, when a shell went right down the back of his pants. Quite a little burn, and he quit picking up my brass. :-(