I fired an entire magazine of .380's through my M&P 9c
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Knightrider03m
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Yes it is a very easy thing to do. Glad everything went well. The gun should be safe.
lostlake
Obviously NO ONE on this forum EVER made a MISTAKE. You had the nads to come forward and expalin a situation that you had. Several people felt the need to systematically bash you for no reason at all. Rather than offering advise (which you prob do not need). I submit to all on this forum who choose to bash lost lake, to google the definition Mistake/Accident, then report back your findings.
That is all
Carry on
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Obviously NO ONE on this forum EVER made a MISTAKE. You had the nads to come forward and expalin a situation that you had. Several people felt the need to systematically bash you for no reason at all. Rather than offering advise (which you prob do not need). I submit to all on this forum who choose to bash lost lake, to google the definition Mistake/Accident, then report back your findings.
That is all
Carry on
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I don't think the people who criticized him really had intentions to BASH to him. It was more of a knee jerk OMG shock and posted. All of us want him to be safe. But, coming on post after post accusing BASHING .. is doing the same thing you are criticizing. It only needed to be pointed out ONE time
I don't think the people who criticized him really had intentions to BASH to him. It was more of a knee jerk OMG shock and posted. All of us want him to be safe. But, coming on post after post accusing BASHING .. is doing the same thing you are criticizing. It only needed to be pointed out ONE time
Oh Ok, I am glad you cleared that up
gearchecker
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9mm and .380 are almost the same!
I did exactly the same thing with my Walther PPS 9.
I shoot Sellier & Bellot ammo for practice most of the time. I grabbed a box of ammo that was marked 9mm on the end tab. The first shot was perfect. Second trigger pull nothing but a click. Ran the drill and manually ejected the casing. Loaded again and exactly the same happened again. Time to take a close look at what's going on.
One of my friends asked if I was shooting 380's thru it and I said no. The box is 9mm ammo. I showed him the box and it was marked 9mm all right. He said the box was too small for 50 rounds of 9mm. I turned the box around and the other end tab was marked .380 ACP. I was embarrassed, but I did load 9mm in it, so I just learned a valuable lesson. Double check, double check, then load.
I'm posting photos of the box and end label here to show it.
Regards,
Gearchecker
I did exactly the same thing with my Walther PPS 9.
I shoot Sellier & Bellot ammo for practice most of the time. I grabbed a box of ammo that was marked 9mm on the end tab. The first shot was perfect. Second trigger pull nothing but a click. Ran the drill and manually ejected the casing. Loaded again and exactly the same happened again. Time to take a close look at what's going on.
One of my friends asked if I was shooting 380's thru it and I said no. The box is 9mm ammo. I showed him the box and it was marked 9mm all right. He said the box was too small for 50 rounds of 9mm. I turned the box around and the other end tab was marked .380 ACP. I was embarrassed, but I did load 9mm in it, so I just learned a valuable lesson. Double check, double check, then load.
I'm posting photos of the box and end label here to show it.
Regards,
Gearchecker
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Gearchecker:
Language barrier?
I've seen .380 as "9mm Kurz", but not "court". Czech v.s. German?
I don't think I'd have made the connection. In my case, I didn't even look at a box - just grabbed a handful out of a ziploc, but missed the "short" part.
That case diameter difference, btw, is enough to allow a case to over-expand, IMO.
Probably shouldn't crack, but while these were good quality reloads, the case's history is unknown, and the brass does get brittle. The reloaders are letting us test for absolute quality. If the case comes back, it was good last time
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Regards,
Language barrier?
I've seen .380 as "9mm Kurz", but not "court". Czech v.s. German?
I don't think I'd have made the connection. In my case, I didn't even look at a box - just grabbed a handful out of a ziploc, but missed the "short" part.
That case diameter difference, btw, is enough to allow a case to over-expand, IMO.
Probably shouldn't crack, but while these were good quality reloads, the case's history is unknown, and the brass does get brittle. The reloaders are letting us test for absolute quality. If the case comes back, it was good last time
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Thank you for posting your experience, Lost Lake. Posting your issue might help prevent other shooters from making a similar mistake.
I have heard second or third hand accounts of 9x17 fired mistakenly from a 9x19 chambered pistol. I am willing to bet that it happens more than most folks think. Boxes labeled with 9mm Court, Corto, Kratak, Kratka 9, Kurz & Skurt probably don't help.
As others have mentioned, inspect your pistol and especially the extractor thoroughly before firing again. My guess would be that your M&P suffered no damage. Can you post a follow up?
I have heard second or third hand accounts of 9x17 fired mistakenly from a 9x19 chambered pistol. I am willing to bet that it happens more than most folks think. Boxes labeled with 9mm Court, Corto, Kratak, Kratka 9, Kurz & Skurt probably don't help.
As others have mentioned, inspect your pistol and especially the extractor thoroughly before firing again. My guess would be that your M&P suffered no damage. Can you post a follow up?
Silversmok3
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When shooting similar ammo and gun types,care must bhe taken to keep evertyhing distinct.That lesson was imparted to me via loading .40S&W into a Taurus PT92 magazine.Not a good idea,keeping a .40S&W Beretta 90-Two and 9mm handgun in close proximity with nearly identical looking magazines.The only reason I didn't wind up shooting .40 caliber through my 9mm PT92 was my sudden awareness of the mag losing 7 rounds of capacity suddenly.
About a year ago my FIL who is in his mid 80's loaded up a mag full of 9mm in his .40 and fired a round. Fortunately it didn't damage him or the gun. He sure didn't fire it a second time.
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I refilled the mag with 9mm and fired another 75 rounds during that session.
I cleaned the gun yesterday and noticed more than the usual residue on the feed ramp and inside the slide. There is no damage and the gun still runs like a Swiss watch.
Jim Watson
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Kind of a goofy trick, but you did not likely hurt the gun.
There was one agency that would train its people to deal with malfunctions by putting a .380 somewhere in a Beretta 9mm magazine.
The .380 would feed and fire, but not function the slide, so they had to rack out the empty and get back into action.
There was one agency that would train its people to deal with malfunctions by putting a .380 somewhere in a Beretta 9mm magazine.
The .380 would feed and fire, but not function the slide, so they had to rack out the empty and get back into action.
Nframecollector
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Why would you put 13 rounds in a 12 round mag? After the first malfunction I would have checked to see what the problem was!
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No one is perfect. I had to buy a Kahr CM9 and Beretta Nano before I made the perfect choice in the Shield 9mm.
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I was at the farm with my oldest daughter and we had a .22, a BG380, a M&P9c and a M&P40fs. I wanted my daughter to try them all and I had all different boxes of ammo out, from Win WB to reloads, FMJ to HP. We were going to shoot about 800 rounds at clay pigeons, reactive targets and old refrigerators.
I remember loading the 9c mag and thinking the last round was weird. It really took a lot of force to get it in the mag, then it didn't seat quite right. I thought maybe I was crushing the spring. I walked onto the range and after the first shot I smiled and thought this 9c has such a light recoil I just LOVE it!
But the next pull of the trigger was a click. I racked the slide and ejected the empty round. It fired and then click. This went on for the entire magazine with me thinking I must have a shell pinched in the bottom of the mag causing the follower to jam or something. Each round had to be hand ejected.
It wasn't until I went back to the bench that I realized I just shot 13 rounds of .380 from my 12 round 9mm magazine....
Wow. Now we will have a bunch of threads on "converting" your 9mm M&P to .380.
Oh joy.
Oops, I'm glad nothing was damaged.
I find it entertaining when the perfect, internet experts feel free to berate others who have the guts to submit a post about making a mistake.
People make mistakes, it's all part of the fun of being human.
I find it entertaining when the perfect, internet experts feel free to berate others who have the guts to submit a post about making a mistake.
People make mistakes, it's all part of the fun of being human.
PWGUNNY
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Funny, I did a virtual double take. I was scanning through the new posts and I read the title of this thread and I skipped by it. Then I ran it though my brain and said, WHAT? Kind of gives a new meaning to "I fed it everything".
Some of our range officers would do the same thing to those of us who carried 9s at the time before we were all issued Glock 21s
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