I seriously can't take anymore of the 3rd gen prices

I bought a 4006 TSW with three mags, box, manuals.
Night sights glowed brightly, and the pistol showed no evidence of being fired or holstered.
I paid $530 for what was basically a new gun.
By the time I got extra mags and installed night sights, I would have that much in an older beater.
 
Let me see....

Speaking of only my 3rd Gen S&W semi-autos

I've owned:

3913 (2 of them)
3913NL
5906

The only one I sold was the 3913NL. I didn't like the looks of it. I keep the 5906 because it's what I carried for half my time as a LEO. The two 3913s I keep because they make for good sized, low recoil impulse, home defense and CCW holster guns.

I don't think of them as collectables. They're for shooting.

Aloha, Mark
 
Hi folks. Interesting discussion. I am looking at buying my first 3rd gen after following this forum for many months. A local FFL has a 4006 that I can get for $400. It comes in the original box with 3 magazines, night sights (getting dim), and the original grips. The gun shows very light holster wear. Do you think this is a good deal? I'm planning to buy it this weekend if there aren't any red flags. Then I can be a member of the cool 3rd gen club. :)
 

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I paid $400 for mine in pristine condition 1 mag no box. So i would say its right in line and actually pretty good considering the market.
 
+1 to Perfectcircle1. That's a great deal. I paid more than that for mine. I'd be all over that deal!:cool:
 
I Think Third Generation Guns are Underpriced.....

People are waking up to the fact that the third generation Smith and Wessons are just about the finest production semi-autos ever made. Add to that that they are no longer being manufactured, and if anything they are under priced in the market for what they are. I see people paying much more for some 1911, or some plastic fantastic, or some foreign made clunker and I am amazed these people will pass a third generation Smith and Wesson up for equal or lesser price.

If you are fed up with the current prices, then I suggest you really don't understand the quality of workmanship and materials that went into these guns.
 
At a shop out of state a GS has a LNIB 4006 with fixed sights $499.00 and he won't budge. I live in Ct. and he can't ship to my FF with the 11 round mag. I told him I'd swap out a 10 rounder to ship it but they still won't. He'll ship it without the mag but then won't even give me the mag at the shop. I said take off $30 since I'm not getting the mag, nope. So now it's the principle of the thing. I don't mind paying but now he's just being greedy. GRRRR I really wanted the pistol.
 
Thanks for the feedback. I'll be picking up the 4006 tomorrow. I stopped by Cabela's today and they had PLENTY of .40 ammo and no 9mm, which is a great argument for having a new caliber in my collection.
 
finesse_r said:
People are waking up to the fact that the third generation Smith and Wessons are just about the finest production semi-autos ever made. Add to that that they are no longer being manufactured, and if anything they are under priced in the market for what they are. I see people paying much more for some 1911, or some plastic fantastic, or some foreign made clunker and I am amazed these people will pass a third generation Smith and Wesson up for equal or lesser price.

If you are fed up with the current prices, then I suggest you really don't understand the quality of workmanship and materials that went into these guns.
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And this is the Post of the Day.

I was just about ready to write one that would have been identical. How many times can we say this? Try to find another metal framed pistol of the same quality and you're looking at $600+ for a SIG, Beretta, or a decent 1911 or Hi-Power.

I think $500-$600+ for a LNIB or NIB gun like a 6906, 3913, 4006, 5906, etc. is a real bargain. I just saw a LNIB scandium 4040 sell for about $950 and I thought it was a steal.
 
Stu1205 said:
Don't be discouraged.

The deals are out there.

In June I picked up a 1006, gun only (98%) with 2 magazines for $475.00.

In July I picked up a 4567, gun only (4566 with black slide and night sights)
(90% with some holster wear on the slide and frame),
with 3 magazines, for $300.00.

Third gens are out there. It just takes a bit of patience to find them.

Stu
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**Note to self. When visiting FLA, hit up every LGS in eyesight.
 
sniper47 said:
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**Note to self. When visiting FLA, hit up every LGS in eyesight.
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Yeah, well just make sure you double check the place out first. Seems Florida allows felons (Florida Luvs Felons) to rent not purchase firearms at their local ranges and shops. I was going to go fire my Hi Power while their one time and good thing I didn't cause some fool that weekend decided to go to the range and shoot himself in the head while there.
 
Most of the 3gen are going up a lot of guys want plastic guns nows but the good old smiths are drying up. I went into Grice gun in PA a year ago and a mint 645 for 399 went home its gone up about 150 since then . The nice clean ones are money in the bank . There is no more of them and they go UP UP UP.
 
I've been lucky here in W. Pa. over the past 20 years....... except for the "crazy times"

The lgs's all seem to push Glocks, Springfield XDs.....lately; add to those the S&W M&Ps.

Used LNIB 1911s and Sigs have been "high" but Smith 3rd gen. and Beretta's...have been good buys..... when you can find them.

S&Ws seem to get no respect.................in W. Pa.

3913/14s, 6906s and 915s were dirt cheap for years.....most of mine were bought for less than $350 out the door, some with 3 mags. I even remember one 3913 was $275 with 3 mags. Even during this latest panic I picked up a "nice but not great" 915 with 2 mags for $325, OTD...... It sat dust covered in a corner of the case........

Would be in a lgs and see people, looking for a "home defense gun" pick up a 5906 and put it down saying it was "too heavy". I let a nice 5906 sit for a month and them made a "you want to get rid of that offer"..... which was snapped up by the owner.....just to move the gun!

Also it seems the LGSs around here don't know much about S&W autos......last summer I picked up a pre 39 LNIB (IIRC 1955, one of the 1600 pre 39s made) for $425. It was marked as a ....."S&W 9mm".
 
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James&theGiant1911 said:
Yeah, well just make sure you double check the place out first. Seems Florida allows felons (Florida Luvs Felons) to rent not purchase firearms at their local ranges and shops. I was going to go fire my Hi Power while their one time and good thing I didn't cause some fool that weekend decided to go to the range and shoot himself in the head while there.
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So how does that make him a felon? Because he rented?

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BAM-BAM said:
I've been lucky here in W. Pa. over the past 20 years....... except for the "crazy times"

The lgs's all seem to push Glocks, Springfield XDs.....lately; add to those the S&W M&Ps.
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Of course they are pushing them. Its hard to push a product like the steel S&W autos that are not made nor distributed anymore. With only an occasional trade in.

BAM-BAM said:
Used LNIB 1911s and Sigs have been "high" but Smith 3rd gen. and Beretta's...have been good buys..... when you can find them.

S&Ws seem to get no respect.................in W. Pa.
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In my area, SE Pa, used Sigs, the good ones.... German, are only a little more then the 3rd gen Smiths. Friday one came in to a LGS. Like new, Sig 226 9mm circa 1995. Clean as can be with box and all....$499. S&W are usually cheap by about a $100. A $100 by itself is a lot but given the fact that youre already spending $400 or so and that layaway is an option that $100 aint much.

They dont get as much respect around here as others but the also dont linger around forever. I have yet to find a store that will give you a break on one. They arnt overpriced but no one is going to drop $25 just to move it.

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3913/14s, 6906s and 915s were dirt cheap for years.....most of mine were bought for less than $350 out the door, some with 3 mags. I even remember one 3913 was $275 with 3 mags. Even during this latest panic I picked up a "nice but not great" 915 with 2 mags for $325, OTD...... It sat dust covered in a corner of the case........

Would be in a lgs and see people, looking for a "home defense gun" pick up a 5906 and put it down saying it was "too heavy". I let a nice 5906 sit for a month and them made a "you want to get rid of that offer"..... which was snapped up by the owner.....just to move the gun!

Also it seems the LGSs around here don't know much about S&W autos......last summer I picked up a pre 39 LNIB (IIRC 1955, one of the 1600 pre 39s made) for $425. It was marked as a ....."S&W 9mm".
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I run into good deals on 3rd gens all the time. The problem is I don't collect so its really pointless for me to just a cumulate them regardless of price. Just recently I had to pass on 2 TSWs at $450ea.....a 5906 and 4006.

In a way people are right for passing on them, in a way. If they are like me and carry or use them constantly. New polymers hold just as many rounds if not more. Are lighter, often have better sights, easier to get mags for and most importantly parts availability. While I like my steel Smiths I dispise having to search for parts. No one has all the parts and those most commonly in stock are often the ones that dont break or arnt important. ..like original sights for instance. I used to carry my 5946 all day but you can tell a huge difference when carrying a Glock. I move around all day so switching to the Glock made my work day a lot easier.

They are great guns but the new ones are popular for a reason.

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Arik,

What I meant to convey is that LGS didn't carry a lot of S&W autos even while S&W was still making them..... once the Pittsburgh Police went to Glocks, and then the State Police got rid of their Berettas ...... Smith and Beretta autos...... became scarce.. I use to gets some of my guns at a Police Supply company....some of my best buys were guns that had been in the vaults for years. Picked up a Beretta 92 type M (single stack) that had been in the vault for over 10 years. I'd bought one in about 1994 and in 2005/06 I mentioned to the owner that I should have bought a second when I had the chance......he says "OK I think I still have a couple of those in the vault!" Yep new in the box...... and he gave me 1994 pricing.........LOL

I lived in Harrisburg from 1984 to 92 and Smiths seemed more common there and the shops toward Philadelphia ..... fact is that's where I got my first couple of Smith, Beretta and Sig autos.

The rare used Sig you see around here is more likely $650 and up.........unless beaten to death.

I've tried Glocks, 3-4 times, 19s and 26s....I've never warmed to striker fired guns. I shot double action revolvers, qualifying DAO, for 20 years before buying my first auto...and Glocks don't seem to point well for me.....

After almost 20 years with a 3913,I'll take a couple of extra ozs to carry a slimmer 3913 in a Sparks Summer Special/ or Executive Companion..... if I need more than 17 rounds..... I'm in the wrong place with the wrong gun. LOL " Old dog" thing I guess
 
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perfectcircle1 said:
The more I look on gunbroker and and in local shops and see the prices of these firearms approaching "new" costs the more I want to freak out and yell at the people Pricing these things. Let me ask this, do you see the price of a 15 year old Camaro even in the same ballpark as a new one? No, you don't. Jeesh. Is just like to find a really clean 5906 with its original stuff for around 400 bucks. What am I on mars and asking for a mcdonalds around every boulder?
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With all due respect to the Chevy Camaro, the 3rd Gen pistols are much better in almost every respect.

S&W should, however, offer occasional runs of 3rd Gens in the ones for which they still do LE contracts, the 4006CHP (yes, it is a separate model with certain parts changed), the 5946NYPD and the 4566. The latest production of these has the real Picatinny rail built in, not riveted on, and the build quality is exceedingly high.
 
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