Will the B-52 bomber live forever?

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It was designed in the Korean War era. Today's pilots have fathers and grandfathers who flew the same basic plane. It's the B-52 bomber, and it looks like it will fly well into the future with modern upgrades.

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It first flew in 1952, before many of you were born, and it's still flying missions for the U.S. Air Force. There are presently 76 of them that are still operational, down from a peak force of 744 years ago. Plans are being made to keep them flying until the year 2040 - and maybe beyond.

The computer systems aboard some of the planes date back to the 1980s, with technology roughly matching that of most home computers of that era. There is even some tube equipment in a few that never got updated to semiconductors. The early technology in those planes limits their crews' ability to switch missions in mid-air; their mission data is uploaded on the ground and can't be changed significantly once airborne. This is all changing.

The most recent variant of the plane came out in the 1960-62 period, and has undergone more than 30 changes. Among them:

Installation of digital display screens, computer network servers and real-time communication uplinks.

Elimination of the tail gunner position, reducing the crew strength to 5 from 6.

The wings have been reinforced, and fuel capacity has been increased.

More powerful turbofan engines have been installed.

The fuselage has been reinforced at the joints and thickened around the crew compartments.

A few bits of information: The plane was first conceived over a weekend on the back of a napkin in 1948 by three Boeing employees. It did carpet-bombing chores during the Vietnam war, and ran crucial missions in Kosovo and the Middle East. No other U.S. warplane has been operational as long as the B-52. In spite of newer designs, it currently represents nearly half of all bombers in our fleet.

How long will the BUFF live? Who knows. It just keeps on truckin'. Amazing, isn't it?

John
 
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When I was in Central America about 10 years ago I saw a DC 3 in use. The good old Huey will probably take third place for the longest military service of an American military aircraft.
 
She's been in business for over sixty years. Powered flight was just 49 when it first flew. When you talk about old, remember there are a few DC-3s still earning a living.
 
As I was growing up here in Amarillo, Texas the B-52's were an everyday occurance around here as the Amarillo Air Force Base was a Strategic Air Command (SAC) base for the B-52's (and fighter planes also) and the air strip at that time was the longest in the USA and for many years after the base closing in 1968. The B-52's lined up on the runway on standby were quite a site to see. Man they would sure rattle the windows and walls around here.

John, I always enjoy reading the threads. Thanks
 
I don't know if they still are but, they used to be serviced at Tinker AFB in OKC. We used to go out and watch them take off and land. They are amazing aircraft.
 
An amazing airplane.When I was a young pilot 56 years ago flying the F89 Scorpion,the workhorse of Air Defense Command,we were constantly flying against the B52's war gaming.Our intercept passes were planned to arrive from 90degrees either side and fire a shotgun blast of 2.75 inch unguided missiles ,as many as 104 at once if chosen,then make a hard break.The radar was locked on the nose of The B52 and by the time the fire control system showed launch we would roll across the huge vertical stabilizer almost close enough to touch!Real close!If we were above 45,000 ft.occasionally the pilots would go into a turn and cause us to stall and fall away.That was a great a/c.You could actually see the wings move up and down at different loads and speeds.We kept our sky's free from the Ruskies back in the 50's and 60's.I felt a whole lot safer then.
 
Back in the late 80s I was in San Diego at the Fleet Intelligence Training Center-Pacific for a couple of Navy schools [and it was when I still ran (who doesn't run when they test you every 6 to 12 months?)] and I found myself jogging on the track that was on the Naval Education and Training Center base (I think it had a different name back then) when I heard an incredible sound behind me. It was a whining, screaming roar (I don't know how else to describe it) that I had never heard before. I knew it was an aircraft so I turned around to look. Most impressive plane I had ever seen was taking off over my head from whatever USAF base was also located nearby.

HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!!! It's a B-52!!!!

What a great sight that was.

As long as they keep them updated, and the gears oiled and the screws tightened, they should last a very long time!

Go Air Force! :)

***GRJ***
 
I've worked for DoD for 35 years, first in logistics (calculating life cycle costs, failure predication, mission capable rates, meantime between failure, etc.) and new production of F-15, F-18, AV-8, T45, and C17 aircraft, as well as depot level maintenance of F-18, CH-53, P-3, S3, F-15, F-16, C-130 and others, mostly helos that I can't remember. As you can see, I've been around.

My answer to your question isn No. Everything has a life span. Eventually everything is too expensive to maintain and fly, mission capable rates fall. Airframes are overly stressed from hard landings, the stress of flying with tons of bombs. Planes get too worn and they go to the boneyard and get cannibalized for spare parts so there are fewer and fewer to the type in service. If you made new B-52s or remanufactured these they could fly on for a long time but is it worth the cost? New builds would have to be signicantly modernized with new electronics mostly. But is it worth the cost? As expensive as a replacement would be it would probably be worth the extra cost.
 
I don't know the answer to your question but it takes 24 manhours of maintenance for every flight hour in a C-5. They're just too expensive to fly, hence the C-17. Logistical costs will probably cause the B-52 to fade away. The same reason there are no more F-14s. It is not cost effective to have capability that you rarely use so you buy a cheaper and almost as capable F-18.

I have a question about the fuel required for takeoff on the B52. My brother in law once told me (35years ago) how much fuel it takes to get one in the air. I cannot remember the figure, but it was astounding.
 
Came back from Japan in 1958 (2 1/2 years F-86 & F-100s) as the last B-36 left Carswell (changed spark plugs on one engine before it left) and spent time sitting in the cockpit refueling B-52s between training missions. First job was to check the microwave ovens for left steaks - the fuel it up. The F-86, the B-52 and the Blackbird - all favorite birds.
 
Magnificent airplane.

In terms of sheer longevity and versatility the C-47/DC-3 remains in first place, but the C-130 and all its variants (including an utterly terrifying gunship) is closing the gap and may well eclipse the Goony one day.

But among the bombers, the BUFF is the king. The B-2 may play C-130 to the B-52's C-47 one day, but I think the Big Ugly Fat...Fellow will be with us for a few years yet.

Then again, I was caught off guard when the Tomcat went into retirement, supplanted by the splendid FA-18. I need to keep up better.
 
A few years ago, I read a pretty good book titled "Flight of The Old Dog", by Dale Brown. Good yarn about a BUFF. A bit of a stretch for the imagination, but a pretty good page turner.
 
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