Showing Your CCW To Others Unsafe?

[Smoke]

I started this thread so as not to hijack another.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...e/352843-flat-out-asked-you-carrying-now.html

I came to church one morning and a friend of mine called me outside, once we got there he pulled out his brand new S&W 1911 to show it off. No warning, no clearing the weapon he just whips it out and says “See my new toy?” I have always been taught that this is incredibly unsafe behavior and I could really see someone seeing this happen and misconstruing the situation in a very bad way.

I have always been taught that unholstering your weapon for show and tell is generally not acceptable behavior. I have only done it one time and even that was in a closed locked room and quite a few people took me to task over it when I wrote about it here and on another forum. ( I would link to the thread but it was locked so I don't want to start the discussion again) That was enough for me to learn my lesson and now I certainly would never do it with someone I didn’t know well and even if I knew you not out side of my home.

So what is the general consensus on this?

 

[shouldazagged]

(a) It's nobody's business what I carry.

(xvii) Over and above safety issues, your friend sounds as if he could be a problem looking for a place to occur. I don't know him, but that smacks of rashness and lack of thought, which isn't something I like to see in somebody carrying a gun.

(D) He might at least have asked if you wanted to see his "new toy"--and I don't even like to hear someone refer to a self-defense weapon as a "toy". (See xvii.)

 

[Ranger514]

I think this topic has been beaten to death in other posts, but NO, never in public, and certainly never without first double checking to make sure the firearm is unloaded. Whenever someone hands me a firearm, I note whether they check to see that it is unloaded, and then I check it myself to confirm it is safe. I doubt that anyone on this forum would go around flashing his ccw in public.

 

[Silvergoose]

This topic comes way to often, Concealed carry means concealed! My obligation for a show and tell begins and ends only in two cases.

1. A LEO in the line of duty.

2. A bad person trying to do me or my family harm.

Hell, if I wanted the world to know I would open carry, end of the mystery.

 

[Smoke]

I think this topic has been beaten to death in other posts, but NO, never in public, and certainly never without first double checking to make sure the firearm is unloaded. Whenever someone hands me a firearm, I note whether they check to see that it is unloaded, and then I check it myself to confirm it is safe. I doubt that anyone on this forum would go around flashing his ccw in public.

You'd think but go read the other thread

 

[Smoke]

(xvii) Over and above safety issues, your friend sounds as if he could be a problem looking for a place to occur. I don't know him, but that smacks of rashness and lack of thought, which isn't something I like to see in somebody carrying a gun.

My friend is an ND waiting to happen. I tried to talk about it with him a couple times but ended up letting him go a couple years ago when we changed churches.

In fact part of the reason we changed churches was because this guy kept insisting on outing my carry status to people I didn’t know.

I haven’t had any real communication with him in a year or so

 

[Protected One]

My friend is an ND waiting to happen. I tried to talk about it with him a couple times but ended up letting him go a couple years ago when we changed churches.

In fact part of the reason we changed churches was because this guy kept insisting on outing my carry status to people I didn’t know.

I haven’t had any real communication with him in a year or so

Too bad he didn't respect your desire (and "right") to privacy regarding your carry status.

 

[Protected One]

I started this thread so as not to hijack another.

http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...e/352843-flat-out-asked-you-carrying-now.html

I came to church one morning and a friend of mine called me outside, once we got there he pulled out his brand new S&W 1911 to show it off. No warning, no clearing the weapon he just whips it out and says “See my new toy?” I have always been taught that this is incredibly unsafe behavior and I could really see someone seeing this happen and misconstruing the situation in a very bad way.

I have always been taught that unholstering your weapon for show and tell is generally not acceptable behavior. I have only done it one time and even that was in a closed locked room and quite a few people took me to task over it when I wrote about it here and on another forum. ( I would link to the thread but it was locked so I don't want to start the discussion again) That was enough for me to learn my lesson and now I certainly would never do it with someone I didn’t know well and even if I knew you not out side of my home.

So what is the general consensus on this?

Depending on the situation, I don't have a problem with it.
My wife and I were visiting a friend at their home on Christmas day. He (a County Sheriff and NRA Instructor) said to me, "Hey, let me show you my new toy". He knew that I knew EXACTLY what he meant, and would want to see it. We went to another room and he pulled back his cover garment, un-holstered, and handed me his new Kahr .40. He knows that I know how to handle a "hot" firearm.
Also, new "toy" is a common calloquialism that men apply to many things, which is fine by me.

 

[Smoke]

He knows that I know how to handle a "hot" firearm.

I'm sorry but in my experience the only proper way to handle a "hot" fire arm in that situation is to "cool it off" by clearing the action then handing it over.

The rules aren't made for when things go as planned they're made to cover your butt when things go wrong

 

[Hodgin]

I've never been asked to show my CCW but I wouldn't do it in public. Of course, I'd show it to a friend in private, as in my home or his home. Definitely be unloaded before I'd show. Both my CCWs are easy to load and unload so I don't mine taking the time to do so.

I'm reminded of an incident I heard about a year or two ago. Can't recall exactly where it was but I think it was around here. After church services a guy was showing him CCW to a friend. They went into a small room. The gun went off but didn't hit anyone.

I don't understand how someone can be so unsafe for something like this to happen. Even min safety, like don't touch the trigger, would prevent such a thing.

 

[gdnagle]

Anytime for any reason if my firearm leaves my possession for someone to see, 1 mag out 2 round ejected and slide locked back and not in public. No one needs to know I'm carrying, and if someone want to show me their firearm it would be in private with same actions taken as if I were letting someone look at mine not in public. Here showing in public can be construed as banishing even though we have open carry.

I carry when ever I leave the house, unless I go through a unfree state. No one knows if I'm carrying even my grandkid's that use to live with us no one at church, no one anyplace. I would wait until the grandkid's were out of the room before I saddled up and when I came home I made sure they didn't see me removing and placing, loaded, into the safe. No one needs to know as far as I'm concerned especially if out in public. I don't need to look at someone else's in public either.

 

[feralmerril]

All my life I have had close friends and co workers that were gun people and we had hit the gunshops and shot together. Hell yes we would show each other our guns but wasnt dumb enough to do it where others we didnt know was nearby. It wasnt and aint no big deal.

 

[Smitty357]

Rule #1. Every weapon is a loaded weapon.

I'm a firm believer in the old saying "Out of sight, out of mind"

 

[venomballistics]

I wouldn't call it "unsafe" exactly.
For as long as handling protocols are properly observed, there should be no real problem.
Unwise however, is a different word.
presentation of your carry piece is at the expense of its secrecy.
Now one person knows your armed, and assumes as much from that day forward. Whats worse is that you also risk that persons inability to keep their mouth shut.
Let some time and social situations come and go for a while and arguments eventually arise. Now they might be looking to you to resolve the unnecessary escalation they caused as it costs them far less than it will you.
NOW we have a problem

 

[rn4j0r]

I would never let someone know I have a CCW on me. It could be used against you in a situation.

 

[chud333]

Not in public, but i have no problem showing someone my Concealed carry
piece if i am comfortable with that person.
I would of course unload it and double check it then hand it to said
person and ask them to do the same.
Not a problem. I am breaking no laws and i always carry "concealed".

I Don't understand the fuss on this issue.

A stranger gets told "go pound sand".

Chuck

 

[feralmerril]

I have told this one before but it bares repeating. I and my best friend that I worked with, shot with and did everything else with once stopped to a gun store and I seen a pair of herritt grips that I had wanted for my model 60 smith. Since we were only a few blocks from his house we went over there to get a screwdriver to put them on. Thank God his wife wasnt home. I unloaded it, put the grips on and of course we both dry fired it. With him sitting directly across the coffee table looking me in the eye I reloaded it. I should have put it in my pocket but didnt probley thinking I would when I stand up. Bill reached over and as I yelled "HEY!" He fired at a picture throw rug of a moose tacked to a wall! At least he hit the moose. The first thing he said was, "Well, you rotten xxx! He was sure I had played a trick on him! He was highly gun experienced besides being a cop!

 

[Protected One]

He was sure I had played a trick on him!

Well, I'm sure he learned something from it.

 

[snubbyfan]

About the only time anyone sees my carry snubby is at the range. Otherwise it stays concealed.

 

[jimmib]

I was asked today at a repair shop by the owner if I was carrying in front of 5 people and I lied and said "NO"...he knows I do...I called him later and asked to never do that again