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[bunkshaner]

Open carry is legal here in Delaware as well as I have my permit 2 carry concealed. I was just responding to someone's post regarding me allowing someone 2 see the bottom of my holster. And yes I probably should have been carrying a pocket piece instead of my regular carry .45 m&p (full size)

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[Ivan the Butcher]

In Ohio hospitals are no gun zones, my doctors office is part of a hospital. I could "not go", but my wife would end up paying for that. So I don't carry INSIDE the docs office. Also in Ohio, Churches are no Gun zones except if you have direct permission (in our church it must be in writing). So I'm carrying in church one Sunday, and a man who should know better walks up and grabs the small black tubular object sticking a 1/2" below my shirt tail. He starts to make a big deal out of it. EVERYBODY, who is a regular at our church assumes I carry, I'm the head Deacon and the head of security. The half dozen people that he has attracted are looking at him and me wondering what I'm going to do with the idiot. I firmly clutch his wrist with my left hand and hold him as I raise my shirt with my right and show everyone my flashlight hanging in the holder. Then in a clear voice explain that raising a panic is a unkind thing to do, and walk with him to get a cup of coffee. The next week the ushers were wanting an explanation, I said never keep you pistol where someone else can take it from you, and showed them the pistol in the pocket holster on the right hand side. If the man wasn't a lifelong friend, I might have embarrassed him a little more or not at all, it just depends. By the way, I don't issue the permission for carry in church, but the leaders let me know every person that is allowed to carrying our church, so that leaves LEO's and I'm pretty familiar with all the locals. Ivan

 

[hotrod150]

If you allowed the guy to get close enough and let him get into a situation where he was looking at your waistline enough to see a half inch rise in your jacket, and identify your holster...you were too close, talking to the wrong kind of person and not exercising good conceilment.....

In this situation, I don't know what his options were with regards to the nut-job being too close and talking to him. Push him away & duct-tape his mouth shut maybe?

 

[SgtLumpy]

In this situation, I don't know what his options were with regards to the nut-job being too close and talking to him. Push him away & duct-tape his mouth shut maybe?

Obviously duct tape and pushing is a little too dramatic. But I'm not bashful about asking people "Please take a step back" or similar if they're too close to me in line, at the ATM or anywhere else. I'm polite about it, never had anyone get offended.


Sgt Lumpy

 

[Doug M.]

State laws about prohibited locations vary so much that discussions of them on a nationwide forum are likely to be pointless. Each of us is responsible for knowing about the legal restrictions for places we go. I don't go to places in which I cannot lawfully carry unless it simply impossible to avoid. Private entities in Washington can post their fantasy signs, but violations are not criminal unless you are detected (slap yourself) and refuse to leave when requested. (It becomes trespassing.)

Crazy people like the idiot you encountered simply can't be fixed. If I pay any attention to their actions, I quietly tell them that their actions are making me uncomfortable as they are consistent with an uncontrolled mental health problem.

 

[Buford57]

That fellow in the Dr.'s office sounds like a walking advertisement for the prudence of going armed. Situational awareness is a good line of defense against criminals, but the mentally disturbed have a way of sneaking up on you.

 

[W.E.G.]

Did you ask your doctor if he thought it would be better that you left your gun in the parking lot where somebody could steal it?

 

[feralmerril]

I cant recall ever having the problem.

 

[SMSgt]

You did nothing wrong, OP. The world is full of wackos, some of them posting here.

If you want to carry and it's legal--do so. It sounds like OC is legal there (?) so your "exposure" wasn't illegal. If you're comfortable NOT carrying in the doctor's office then don't. It's your call until the Doc says "Leave." If the nut job is that much of a problem at the doctor's, the Doc should simply discharge him as being too disruptive to his staff and patients.

 

[G.T. Smith]

I do conceal carry when going for just blood work.

And I'll bet it is a 627 PC, right?
I go ahead and carry everywhere but I make sure that if I go into a place where they have a sign on the door, I use the other door, and I make darn sure that my gun is concealed and stays concealed.
Peace,
Gordon

 

[sac-gunslinger]

I saw an advertisement a while back for a badge that was lettered "Concealed Permit Holder" or something like that. How 'bout showing the whacko the badge and whispering "it's legal," with no implied authority stated. If he is scared of guns he probably would be calmed by a badge (which he probably couldn't read anyway) Looked like a pretty nice badge, was priced like it also.

 

[mcmar]

IMO, a building owned by a hospital does not make it a hospital.

We are around guns so much, we don't think it unusual. But we are in the minority, and a lot of average citizens freak out with the thought of "Man with a gun."
So, best to stay concealed.

IMO a doctors office or a clinic isn't a hospital. But being a public facility their should be a "no guns" sign posted. If not, I would feel free to enter. However, if a doctor requested I not carry inside, I would certainly abide with his request. If I didn't I would be breaking the law.

 

[Hodgin]

And I'll bet it is a 627 PC, right?

I wish. Normally a 9c but sometimes a BG 380.

 

[Rastoff]

I saw an advertisement a while back for a badge that was lettered "Concealed Permit Holder" or something like that. How 'bout showing the whacko the badge and whispering "it's legal," with no implied authority stated. If he is scared of guns he probably would be calmed by a badge (which he probably couldn't read anyway) Looked like a pretty nice badge, was priced like it also.

In CA this would really be walking a fine line. The law specifically prohibits a person with a CCW from acting or portraying himself as a policeman. Regardless of how innocuous the intent, a badge like that could easily be misconstrued. It would likely find you in court arguing for your release.

 

[gaucho1]

Simple answer is to have a brief case in the car.

Carry it in a natural fashion and no one will feel threatened.

Just be sure not to leave it sitting somewhere........

 

[kip_j]

My doctors are all gun guys, but I still lock my pistol in the car.

Like Donn said, concealed carry is not allowed in Michigan hospitals. The big problem with that is a lot of doctor offices are owned by hospitals, so you may be in violation of law and not even know it. Our open carry law allows you to carry in hospitals, but it really freaks them out when you do.

I work in a Michigan medical center and I have never seen anyone open carry inside the building. I'm quite sure if someone did, it would cause a huge stir.

Back in the early 90's, a physician was shot and killed by one of his patients inside the clinic attached to our hospital. The shooter was an older man who was being treated for an ongoing ear problem. I always think about just how lax the security truly was and remains, despite the lip service given.

 

[Smoke]

I saw an advertisement a while back for a badge that was lettered "Concealed Permit Holder" or something like that. How 'bout showing the whacko the badge and whispering "it's legal," with no implied authority stated. If he is scared of guns he probably would be calmed by a badge (which he probably couldn't read anyway) Looked like a pretty nice badge, was priced like it also.

Really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,
really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really

Bad idea

 

[Lost Lake]

I think the badge idea has been discussed ad nauseam and determined to be a bad idea....

Let's leave displaying a badge to the law enforcement group where it belongs.

As for what I would do.... I have no honest idea. I just pray I don't get in that situation!

.

 

[cmort666]

In Ohio hospitals are no gun zones, my doctors office is part of a hospital.

No, they aren't.

Most if not all Cleveland Clinic facilities are POSTED, but hospitals are most definitely NOT statutory CPZs. If not posted, you're free to enter. Lakewood Hospital didn't used to be posted, and I entered it armed on several occasions. Perfectly legal. I THINK they may be posted NOW.

 

[cmort666]

I saw an advertisement a while back for a badge that was lettered "Concealed Permit Holder" or something like that. How 'bout showing the whacko the badge and whispering "it's legal," with no implied authority stated. If he is scared of guns he probably would be calmed by a badge (which he probably couldn't read anyway) Looked like a pretty nice badge, was priced like it also.

1. I'm not a cop.
2. I don't want people to think I'm a cop.
3. I don't pander to the psychopathologies of imbeciles.

CCW badges are an EXCEEDINGLY bad idea. They:

• have no legal relevance in Ohio. You still need your CHL (or recognized equivalent) and a second form of ID. You might as well carry a dead sparrow as one of those badges.
• invite accusations of impersonating a police officer.
• imply motivations for carrying, unrelated to legitimate defense of self and others.

Just say "no" to CCW badges.