bear defense question

[rwsmith]

What were those old ads????

What were those old ads (comic book ads??) that had a Daniel Boonesque character diving headfirst out of a tree onto a Grizzly bear with a Bowie knife in his teeth. Probably said something like "Real Bowie Knife" for 50 cents.

 

[quneur]

I would ask several Alaskan guides and see what they use. I bet it would be the older 45/70 or .444 Marlin guide gun.

 

[BCDWYO]

Amazing photos Bill!

 

[pawncop]

With regards to the old slow/fat friend technique, I would point out the other method using a 25 ACP. One round to the kneecap is usually sufficient.

 

[redneckemt]

With regards to the old slow/fat friend technique, I would point out the other method using a 25 ACP. One round to the kneecap is usually sufficient.

The perfect use for the Governor.


Real question. Would a 12ga Bird Bomb shell (basically a 12ga firework used for scaring away birds) be effective?

 

[BigBill]

A handgun on a charging bear. I don't know. All we have is a frontal section shot. The fog of bear spray sounds interesting.

 

[BigBill]

I would ask several Alaskan guides and see what they use. I bet it would be the older 45/70 or .444 Marlin guide gun.

There probably carrying the marlin 450 guide gun or the wild west 457 magnum lever co- pilot as its called. Big bore slow lumbering bullets that hits like a Mack dump truck.

 

[BigBill]

Did Elmer Keith have riflemen as backups when he was hunting large and dangerous game with a handgun?

 

[BearBio]

I have given up on responding to bear threads. There is too much BS and too little experience, in general. I have experience in the wild with bears and live in grizzly country. If asked, I will say what I carry.

Texas Star: Can't remember us ever disagreeing, but I do feel people should use spray first and a gun second.

I will comment on one thing I have noticed: Over the last 5-10 years, there has been a decided shift from Macho man ="all I need is a big bowie" to the more rational response of bear spray

 

[Bill Bates]

The reason I will reach for my bear spray first isn't because I don't want to shoot or harm the bear. I'll go for the bear spray first because it take much less skill to use and deploy in a high pressure situation.

I've never been charged by a bear. I have seen a bear charge another bear. After watching a bore make continued passes at a sow and cub over a two hour period the sow grizzly charge the bore grizzly that was trying to split off the cub. She covered 100 yards in a split second. A mad charging grizzly bear makes a good quarter horse look slow.

Honestly bear spray or gun in a holster might be little to no use if a bear charges without warning. Luckily the few bears I've photographed that took exception to my presents did a little jaw popping and minor two or three step false charges. I can take a hint. I backed off slowly with the spray in hand just in case.

This momma with two cubs didn't need to ask twice.

 

[BigBill]

Bill let explain about the jaw popping or snapping of there teeth. That's a warning before you get charged and bit. If anyone doesn't know it. Dogs do it too.

Thanks for the tip on the bear spray.

 

[BearBio]

Been jaw-popped twice, maybe three times, and a full bluff charge once. The bluff charge also slapped the ground and slobbered a lot. That's out of over 2 dozen wild grizzlies and over a hundred black bears that I've seen. Never had to shoot or spray, yet.

 

[Arik]

Saiga of Vepr Molot 12. Mag, or drum, fed semi auto 12G.

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[A10]

I carry these

[/QUOTE]

Nice older 29! Did you have the barrel trimmed or did it come that way? Gotta love a 5" .44!

 

[Frank237]

As per normal with "Bear" threads. Some of the comments here are clearly from people who have NEVER been exposed to truly BIG bears that wish to kill you.

I'm trying to be positive...so have nothing further to add. Here's a shot of a local MT resident...

 

[Comrad]

Due to the frequency of human-bear encounters, the Fish and Wildlife Division is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen and any persons that use the out of doors in a recreational or work related function to take extra precautions while in the field.

We advise the outdoorsman to wear little noisy bells on clothing so as to give advanced warning to any bears that might be close by so you don’t take them by surprise.

We also advise anyone using the out-of-doors to carry “Pepper Spray” with him is case of an encounter with a bear.

Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity, and be able to tell the difference between black bear feces and grizzly bear feces. Black bear feces is smaller and contains lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear scat has bells in it and smells like pepper.

 

[BearBio]

I think I KNOW him! They don't really WANT to hurt you but will take a taste to try it.

 

[Sailfish 40]

Been jaw-popped twice, maybe three times, and a full bluff charge once. The bluff charge also slapped the ground and slobbered a lot. That's out of over 2 dozen wild grizzlies and over a hundred black bears that I've seen. Never had to shoot or spray, yet.

i was false charge once near cold bay, alaska. didnt have the shotgun with me and got a little to close taking pictures. it was terrifying to see how fast that big bruin could move. thats what got me thinking about the semi auto 308. i bet i would be doing a lot of missing but hopefully have enough ammo to get a few on target.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Here's an interesting research project for someone.
Just how many bear threads have there been here?
I'm not talking about thread drift or the occasional bear gun posting in a "It's not a 'cowboy' hat dammit" thread-no I'm a talking about an honest to goodness dedicated bear thread.

 

[BearBio]

i was false charge once near cold bay, alaska. didnt have the shotgun with me and got a little to close taking pictures. it was terrifying to see how fast that big bruin could move. thats what got me thinking about the semi auto 308. i bet i would be doing a lot of missing but hopefully have enough ammo to get a few on target.

People who have not seen a serious charge (bluff or attack) have absolutely NO IDEA how fast they are. We spooked a black bear above Santa Maria, Cali on a muzzleloader hunt in a dense foggy rain. My BIL said "That's the biggest, fastest *** wild pig I've never seen". I answered it weren't no pig-just a bear.

Remember, they go THROUGH stuff you gotta go around or over!

I have a video of a grizzly chasing down (and catching) a cow elk.