I thought the movie "The Cowboys" was far better than the book too but those would be the only two
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I thought the movie "The Cowboys" was far better than the book too but those would be the only two
Texas Star
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The Australian-filmed TV series, "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's The Lost World" was better than the book. It added women characters and made all characters more interesting than in the book. The rub is that the series used actor Peter McCaulay's real wife for Challenger's wife the few times she apperared. I think she was also a director. She is actually older than Peter. (I think he's 64 this year.) In the book, Jessie Challenger seemed much younger than her husband, who treated her with contempt, as he did most people. The character was supposedly based on a medical professor that author Doyle knew. He must have been a real so-and-so!
McCaulay played Challenger as becoming more social and relating to his companions better, rather than just seeing Science as his god and having a vast ego. He mellowed in later seasons, as did the sharp-tongued Marguerite Krux, played by Rachel Blakley. I quite liked Finn, played by blonde actress Lara Cox. She was born in Canberra, but can fake a US accent well. Some of you have seen her in the DVD movie, The Marine 2. She played Robin, the hero's wife. The guy who played her boss is also Australian, and also appeared as a guest star on, The Lost World.
A fan fiction author got Finn and Challenger together, with the Jessie Challenger of the show dying of influenza. Some readers initially objected, mainly on the basis of Challenger being in his 50's. Finn was 22, the only character to actually mention her age. But each met emotional needs of the other and no other suitable mate for either was on hand on that remote jungle plateau. Finn needed a father figure who would also support her emotionally and financially when they left the Plateau. And her youth, curiosity, and wry humor revitalized Challenger. In a TV episode, Finn gave blood and told the others how to rig the transfusion equipment. She saved Challenger after he drank one of his experiments that went badly. Most fans were surprised to find the Jessie of the show so different from the younger one of the book. When seen in that light and the issue of their respective emotional and financial needs was explored, Finn and Prof. George Challenger made a quite plausibe couple.
That Fic author also had Finn replace her little crossbow from the show with guns, including a S&W M&P .38. (Five-inch bbl, Model of 1905, Fourth Change.) But even the TV show had mostly correct guns for the 1919-1922 time frame.
Sir Arthur C. Doyle had very limited knowledge of guns and no desire to learn. That's why he was so vague about arms in his Sherlock Holmes books, and what the characters had in, The Lost World was poorly chosen and described. The TV show did much better. And adding the girls helped, too.
The 1950 version of, "King Solomon's Mines" was pretty good, and the guns seemed logical. But the book was more specific about armament. Unlike Doyle, Sir Henry Rider Haggard knew something about guns and he was a veteran of the Second Zulu War of 1879. I have been unable to determine just what he did in the war, but suspect that he was a staff officer with Lord Chelmsford's column. He was definitely not killed at Isandlwana, nor was he at Rorke's Drift in that epic battle that produced 11 awards of the Victoria Cross!
Haggad included Colt and Winchester guns in his book, as well as heavier British Express double rifles. It's likely that he selected guns that he saw used in South Africa at that time. The book was published in 1883, and is, I believe, still in print. It is a real classic of adventure literature.
The 1950 movie is good, but I think the book is even better.
But of, The Lost World, the TV series and the movie version of the 1960's with Michael Rennie as Lord John Roxton and Jill St. John in a female role were both better than the book. This does not mean that TLW is a bad book, just that it could have easily been better. It is the sole case that I know of where the book was worse than the films or the TV versions.
However, the movie version of another Benchey book, "The Deep" was close to the book and was very well done. The only actor it shared with, "Jaws" was Robert Shaw, but not playing Quint. Did any of you see, "The Deep"? It was a very good film, and not just because of Jacque Bissett's wet tee shirt!
In that case, the book and the movie were about on par. That's rare.
McCaulay played Challenger as becoming more social and relating to his companions better, rather than just seeing Science as his god and having a vast ego. He mellowed in later seasons, as did the sharp-tongued Marguerite Krux, played by Rachel Blakley. I quite liked Finn, played by blonde actress Lara Cox. She was born in Canberra, but can fake a US accent well. Some of you have seen her in the DVD movie, The Marine 2. She played Robin, the hero's wife. The guy who played her boss is also Australian, and also appeared as a guest star on, The Lost World.
A fan fiction author got Finn and Challenger together, with the Jessie Challenger of the show dying of influenza. Some readers initially objected, mainly on the basis of Challenger being in his 50's. Finn was 22, the only character to actually mention her age. But each met emotional needs of the other and no other suitable mate for either was on hand on that remote jungle plateau. Finn needed a father figure who would also support her emotionally and financially when they left the Plateau. And her youth, curiosity, and wry humor revitalized Challenger. In a TV episode, Finn gave blood and told the others how to rig the transfusion equipment. She saved Challenger after he drank one of his experiments that went badly. Most fans were surprised to find the Jessie of the show so different from the younger one of the book. When seen in that light and the issue of their respective emotional and financial needs was explored, Finn and Prof. George Challenger made a quite plausibe couple.
That Fic author also had Finn replace her little crossbow from the show with guns, including a S&W M&P .38. (Five-inch bbl, Model of 1905, Fourth Change.) But even the TV show had mostly correct guns for the 1919-1922 time frame.
Sir Arthur C. Doyle had very limited knowledge of guns and no desire to learn. That's why he was so vague about arms in his Sherlock Holmes books, and what the characters had in, The Lost World was poorly chosen and described. The TV show did much better. And adding the girls helped, too.
The 1950 version of, "King Solomon's Mines" was pretty good, and the guns seemed logical. But the book was more specific about armament. Unlike Doyle, Sir Henry Rider Haggard knew something about guns and he was a veteran of the Second Zulu War of 1879. I have been unable to determine just what he did in the war, but suspect that he was a staff officer with Lord Chelmsford's column. He was definitely not killed at Isandlwana, nor was he at Rorke's Drift in that epic battle that produced 11 awards of the Victoria Cross!
Haggad included Colt and Winchester guns in his book, as well as heavier British Express double rifles. It's likely that he selected guns that he saw used in South Africa at that time. The book was published in 1883, and is, I believe, still in print. It is a real classic of adventure literature.
The 1950 movie is good, but I think the book is even better.
But of, The Lost World, the TV series and the movie version of the 1960's with Michael Rennie as Lord John Roxton and Jill St. John in a female role were both better than the book. This does not mean that TLW is a bad book, just that it could have easily been better. It is the sole case that I know of where the book was worse than the films or the TV versions.
However, the movie version of another Benchey book, "The Deep" was close to the book and was very well done. The only actor it shared with, "Jaws" was Robert Shaw, but not playing Quint. Did any of you see, "The Deep"? It was a very good film, and not just because of Jacque Bissett's wet tee shirt!
In that case, the book and the movie were about on par. That's rare."The Deep" was a great movie and cast with a group of much better actors. It was Robert Shaw's next to last movie. It appears he took "The Deep" more seriously than "Jaws." Robert Shaw dropped dead of a heart attack near his home...If I recall, Peter Benchley died young too. Anyone know what happened to him????
From BBC news/ America 02/13/2006
"US author Peter Benchley, whose novel Jaws was made into one of Hollywood's most famous films, has died aged 65.
He died of complications from pulmonary fibrosis, a progressive scarring of the lungs he had been diagnosed with last autumn, son-in-law Chris Turner said."
Mr. Benchley was 65 at the time of his death.
cmj8591
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Jaws was filmed on Martha's Vineyard, just off of Cape Cod. Filming started just about the time they were wrapping up The Great Gatsby in Newport, RI. I remember it was a big deal around here and a few people I knew from college spent time hanging around the sets trying to get bit parts during the summer. The Great Gatsby, the original not that insult that they just made, is a good example of a movie being better than the book (Sorry to all you literary purists out there!). Another movie that out did the book is True Grit. The Cohen brothers version, not the John Wayne version (Sorry to all you b grade movie purists out there!). Jaws is a good example of a movie and book both being really good. It doesn't happen very often.
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I happen to think the Movie was huge vast improvement over the book...it isn't even the same story. The characters in the book were all a bunch of shady weasels...the shark was more likeable.
Spielberg did a great job on the movie. The shark was mechanical...nothing anybody can do about that...that was the technology of the day....Jaws would have been a great movie even if we never saw the shark.
Spielberg did a great job on the movie. The shark was mechanical...nothing anybody can do about that...that was the technology of the day....Jaws would have been a great movie even if we never saw the shark.
Frank46
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Capt. Frank Mundus used to run shark fishing trips out of Montauk Point Long Island and think they used him as a character for Robert Shaw to play. They used to go out and catch sharks and then shoot them before bringing them on board. Frank
I think this would be a good time......
I think this would be a good time to switch from bear caliber threads to humongous shark caliber threads. I wonder how a one gauge bang stick would work??
I think this would be a good time to switch from bear caliber threads to humongous shark caliber threads. I wonder how a one gauge bang stick would work??
rdcl
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I agree with this.........except I didn't find chief Brody a weasel. The book had too much "potboiler" stuff with all the mob subplot and Hooper having a fling with the chiefs wife.
In fact......the book made me HATE Hooper for dis-respecting another mans marriage.......after having dinner at the mans house no less.
The movie Hooper (and Mrs. Brody) are much more likable.
As far as the guns in the movie.....I always thought Brodys gun was a S&W m19.
Also, a shame Quint's M1 Garand went down with the ship! I don't think I remember him paddling back to shore with it on those pontoons.
One thing for sure. All that salt water could'nt have been good to any of the guns on that boat.
Russ
Yes it did. But sadly in real life people aren't always as nice as they should be...
A great site for people who like movies and firearms.
Jaws - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
Alk8944
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Why does everyone keep guessing when the answer is so easy to find just by looking??????????????????????????
The answer is S&W M-15 per IMFDB. See link: Jaws - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
The answer is S&W M-15 per IMFDB. See link: Jaws - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
MOONDAWG
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S&W Model 15...here ya go...
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Double-O-Dave
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Thank you for the photos, Moondawg. Isn't that interesting that in your first photo, Chief Brody has the piece holstered on his left side - indicating he is a southpaw (left handed), but in the second photo, he's preparing to fire the piece from his right hand? As I recall, one of the scenes in the Chief's house showed a police marksmanship trophy - I guess this just adds to the flavor of the movie.
Regards,
Dave
Regards,
Dave
MOONDAWG
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In the second photo you'll notice he's wearing his badge on the wrong side of his uniform shirt too. In continued to do so in every version of Jaws.
In the first picture you can see that the fly of his jeans is reversed from normal. The picture is mirrored.
Double-O-Dave
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Yes, I noticed that also. I've been around enough LEOs to know the badge, or shield, or star is supposed to be worn on the left side - over the heart, and I always thought it was supposed to show how laid back and relaxed the town, and the Chief were. This is a good contrast when the Chief finally has to get tough with Bruce (the shark).
Regards,
Dave
Double-O-Dave
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Tom K: I actually dreamed about the movie last night and remembered (this morning) seeing the Chief strap on his gun belt and draw his revolver (right handed) from the holster. I also remember him reloading, and he did that as a right handed shooter would. Now why can't I dream about some really good old movie like Raquel Welch in "One Million Years B.C."?
Regards,
Dave
captorquewrench
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Me gusta mucho la pelicula 'Jaws' en espanol.
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