Need help on mp 9 pro for plate gun

[1hotrodgun]

Would like to build a mp 9 pro with low recoil. I keep looking at the one carver custom build. I have called and left my number but never heard back from anyone there. Ever time I dial phone rings and answer machine picks up. Maybe they are out of business I guess. To bad looks like the have some nice product.
So my question is do I start with 4.25 barrel model or 5"?
Do I build with a compensator of the front or send out to magna port and have ported.
And I am sure what grain bullet might have something to do with it to.
Any help to point me in right direction greatly appreciated .

 

[Dlister70]

I would think the 5" would have a softer recoil than the 4.25" based solely on weight. Plus you get a longer sight radius. In my opinion, if you aren't going to use it as a carry gun, there is no reason not to get the 5".

I've found that 147 grain bullets shoot softer than 115 grain in terms of recoil, but your point of impact may change a little too.

I can't comment on the other stuff as I haven't had that kind of work done, but for the lightest recoil M&P 9 experience that you can make, I'd start with those two things.

 

[1hotrodgun]

I would think the 5" would have a softer recoil than the 4.25" based solely on weight. Plus you get a longer sight radius. In my opinion, if you aren't going to use it as a carry gun, there is no reason not to get the 5".

I've found that 147 grain bullets shoot softer than 115 grain in terms of recoil, but your point of impact may change a little too.

I can't comment on the other stuff as I haven't had that kind of work done, but for the lightest recoil M&P 9 experience that you can make, I'd start with those two things.

I was thinking the five also just didn't know if they offered more performance style parts for one or the other.
I shoot alot 45 now seems the 200 gr bullet for that shoots the best for me. I have tried 160 185 and 225 and 230 .
What are you loading for the 147's?

 

[Dlister70]

What are you loading for the 147's?

I don't have a press to load my own.

The 147s that I get are from Freedom Munitions and they advertise as 890 fps. They also have a 165 grain in their HUSH line of ammo that advertises 700 fps, but I haven't forked over the price for that one yet to see how soft it shoots.

The felt recoil of the 147s in my 5" M&P Pro is similar to shooting CCI mini mags in my Ruger SR 22. But I guess that's all subjective, so you'd have to try it out and see what you like best.

 

[Bkreutz]

Would like to build a mp 9 pro with low recoil. I keep looking at the one carver custom build. I have called and left my number but never heard back from anyone there. Ever time I dial phone rings and answer machine picks up. Maybe they are out of business I guess. To bad looks like the have some nice product.
So my question is do I start with 4.25 barrel model or 5"?
Do I build with a compensator of the front or send out to magna port and have ported.
And I am sure what grain bullet might have something to do with it to.
Any help to point me in right direction greatly appreciated .

I had a 5" Core Magnaported, didn't do much recoil reduction (a little bit, but not that much). I have another 5" M&P that I put a compensator on and use 9 Major ammo, it's the softest shooting pistol I own. The compensator does the most to reduce recoil and minimize muzzle rise, but you have to tailor a load to make it work. I tried the compensated pistol with minor power factor ammo and even with the lightest recoil spring (10#) I couldn't get the slide to cycle reliably. There's no real easy answer for recoil reduction. 9 Major works well, but a lot of people aren't prepared to do the homework to use it safely. My load is a 124 gr bullet at 1400 fps. I use Autocomp powder because it produces the amount of gas needed to work the comp. Good luck

 

[1hotrodgun]

I had a 5" Core Magnaported, didn't do much recoil reduction (a little bit, but not that much). I have another 5" M&P that I put a compensator on and use 9 Major ammo, it's the softest shooting pistol I own. The compensator does the most to reduce recoil and minimize muzzle rise, but you have to tailor a load to make it work. I tried the compensated pistol with minor power factor ammo and even with the lightest recoil spring (10#) I couldn't get the slide to cycle reliably. There's no real easy answer for recoil reduction. 9 Major works well, but a lot of people aren't prepared to do the homework to use it safely. My load is a 124 gr bullet at 1400 fps. I use Autocomp powder because it produces the amount of gas needed to work the comp. Good luck

Thanks that's basically what I had in mind for both guns.
I don't mind working on load for gun it's actually the challenge that I enjoy.keeps me shooting alot also.
Both guns look good. Thanks for input . Think I am gonna build comp. Style thanks.

 

[mlk18]

Did I miss something or has no one chimed in that S&W already make a 4.25 & 5" ported model? From the videos I have seen it definitely helps with muzzle rise.

Product: M&P®9 PERFORMANCE CENTER® PORTED

 

[Bkreutz]

Did I miss something or has no one chimed in that S&W already make a 4.25 & 5" ported model? From the videos I have seen it definitely helps with muzzle rise.

Product: M&P®9 PERFORMANCE CENTER® PORTED

The ported models have been discussed numerous times here (and other forums). Porting does help some, but having shot all 3 variations (Magna ported, S&W ported, and compensated) the compensated wins hands down. I don't judge by videos, but if competition is any measure of effectiveness, just look at USPSA Open division, the overwhelming majority shoot compensators. Since porting and compensators are in the same division by rule, the only people shooting ported are the ones that are just doing it for fun. Now if you look at 3 Gun, then you see a lot more ported, but again, that's because of the rule structure. What I'm saying is you can't judge effectiveness by video or internet recommendations, you need to shoot the different options before buying them.

 

[mlk18]

While I have not shot a ported M&P, I carried a "compensated" (using Glock terms) Glock 23C for years on duty and also owned a non-C model G23. The "compensation" made a huge difference in the .40S&W, in fact it made it feel like a 9mm. Ditto that with my former G35 with ported barrel. While it might not reduce the flip as much as a compensator hanging off the end, which might be in part because of added muzzle weight, I would be surprised to find porting does not reduce the flip to a noticeable degree of an already very soft shooting round. (And yes, I am well aware the 40 already has much more flip than the 9.) I will know for sure next week when my M&P Pro Ported 4.25" arrives.