642 & 1 reload
How many reloads do you carry for revolvers?
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digiroc
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My 360PD is on me about 95% of the time. I feel that reloading a revolver is a good way to get shot if in a gunfight, of course so is running out of ammo.
If I'm relying on the 5 shot only, I'll throw a speed strip in my pocket. If I'm going very far from home I'll have a NY reload ready, usually a 3rd gen Smith of some type.
My 404PD is the usual choice, as it conceals well. I just received a 3914DAO that may occasionally replace it once a few more boxes of ammo go through it without failures of any type.
I also have a 3914 LS that has proven itself enough for carry and a CS9 that sometimes replaces the 360PD in appendix carry.
When carrying a semi-auto, whether as primary or back-up, I'll slip an extra mag or two in my back pocket.
digiroc
If I'm relying on the 5 shot only, I'll throw a speed strip in my pocket. If I'm going very far from home I'll have a NY reload ready, usually a 3rd gen Smith of some type.
My 404PD is the usual choice, as it conceals well. I just received a 3914DAO that may occasionally replace it once a few more boxes of ammo go through it without failures of any type.
I also have a 3914 LS that has proven itself enough for carry and a CS9 that sometimes replaces the 360PD in appendix carry.
When carrying a semi-auto, whether as primary or back-up, I'll slip an extra mag or two in my back pocket.
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These were the two thoughts I was going to post. I carry 5 spare rds in a speedstrip, with the occasional round of snakeshot when warranted.
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I typically carry 1-3 speedstrips. Depends on how I'm dressed (I pocket carry my snub.)
Sometimes an additional speedloader, in addition to the speedstrips, if I'm wearing a jacket.
Maybe a pair of speedloaders if I'm not carrying speedstrips.
Sometimes to 5 speedloaders if I'm dressed and carrying my camera case (used to be my common motorcycle riding setup).
You're looking at a case that barely holds a J-frame in the main pocket, and easily 5 speedloaders in the outside (front) film roll pocket.
Now, that's for an off-duty/retirement weapon.
If I were to return to full-time active duty I'd only carry a snub as a secondary weapon, or at most as a meeting, conference or court appearance weapon. Not as a primary duty weapon, even if only plainclothes.
A 6-8 shot revolver as a primary duty weapon? Sure. 1-3 more rounds in a larger and more easily controlled primary weapon.
Given my druthers when it came to returning to carrying a smallish pistol for plainclothes duties? I'd go back back to carrying a 4513/4013/3913TSW, or one of my G26/27's ... or a Shield 9/.40, at the smallest.
However, that's presuming the timer and repeated duty course-of-fire scores reflected no significant differences between running the smaller guns against the larger "compact" or full-size guns.
There's probably a difference when it comes to frequency of potential elevated risks, in your daily risk assessment, comparing being armed off-duty (or retired) and being actively engaged in having to go out and repeatedly insert yourself into the lives of folks who have demonstrated a tendency to run afoul of the law and the criminal justice system.
Dress accordingly.
G26 with a snub as an approved secondary? Probably more realistic, and "better prepared", than carrying a snub as a "primary" (and no secondary).
Just my thoughts.
Sometimes an additional speedloader, in addition to the speedstrips, if I'm wearing a jacket.
Maybe a pair of speedloaders if I'm not carrying speedstrips.
Sometimes to 5 speedloaders if I'm dressed and carrying my camera case (used to be my common motorcycle riding setup).
You're looking at a case that barely holds a J-frame in the main pocket, and easily 5 speedloaders in the outside (front) film roll pocket.
Now, that's for an off-duty/retirement weapon.
If I were to return to full-time active duty I'd only carry a snub as a secondary weapon, or at most as a meeting, conference or court appearance weapon. Not as a primary duty weapon, even if only plainclothes.
A 6-8 shot revolver as a primary duty weapon? Sure. 1-3 more rounds in a larger and more easily controlled primary weapon.
Given my druthers when it came to returning to carrying a smallish pistol for plainclothes duties? I'd go back back to carrying a 4513/4013/3913TSW, or one of my G26/27's ... or a Shield 9/.40, at the smallest.
However, that's presuming the timer and repeated duty course-of-fire scores reflected no significant differences between running the smaller guns against the larger "compact" or full-size guns.
There's probably a difference when it comes to frequency of potential elevated risks, in your daily risk assessment, comparing being armed off-duty (or retired) and being actively engaged in having to go out and repeatedly insert yourself into the lives of folks who have demonstrated a tendency to run afoul of the law and the criminal justice system.
Dress accordingly.
G26 with a snub as an approved secondary? Probably more realistic, and "better prepared", than carrying a snub as a "primary" (and no secondary).
Just my thoughts.
I'm not any kind of an LEO. I don't think I'll ever need a reload.
When I go to my office I carry a small briefcase and there is one speedloader in there and one leather strip with 6 rounds - because I can. I have extra rounds in my car, too. Because I can and it's easy to do. Otherwise, I virtually never carry a reload.
In the event that I go someplace where I think there might be an issue and if I don't switch to a hi-cap semi-auto I might carry one speedloader but that's it.
When I go to my office I carry a small briefcase and there is one speedloader in there and one leather strip with 6 rounds - because I can. I have extra rounds in my car, too. Because I can and it's easy to do. Otherwise, I virtually never carry a reload.
In the event that I go someplace where I think there might be an issue and if I don't switch to a hi-cap semi-auto I might carry one speedloader but that's it.
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Nothing wrong with that.
I often carry more than 1 speedstrip/loader because it's a longtime ingrained habit, from the days when I carried a pair of speedloaders on and off-duty when I carried a service revolver.
Now that I'm coming up on having been retired for 8 years, I've noticed that I'm more increasingly more comfortable carrying a single speedstrip, or a single spedloader when I pocket a J-frame (or a single magazine for whatever pistol I may choose to carry).
I'm no longer deliberately going out to put myself in Harm's Way every few minutes of every day, so I'm not against adjusting my gear to reflect a diminished risk environment and risk assessment.
My camera case carrier dates back to several years before I retired, when I was still carrying a little more gear against the potential that I might find myself coming across a situation where I decided to invoke my status and take an enforcement action.
That camera case was the only one I could find that had a stitched belt loop (versus snap or Velcro), and it handily rode on my belt when I was wearing my jeans and leather riding jacket. That way I could keep my weapon on my person, while removing my riding jacket and enjoying the sunshine in one of our beach towns. Nobody ever gave it second glance, and none of my LE peers ever realized that it contained a weapon (unlike how a fanny or belt pack attracts their trained eyes
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When I do carry a revolver, usually it's my Charter Arms Pitbull .45acp which is a 5 shot. For backup ammo, I carry two 7 round 1911 .45acp magazines, one in my left front pocket and one in my right rear pocket. I have practiced pushing rounds out of a magazine, right into the cylinders of the revolver. For me it's works very well. That's 14 backup rounds.
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Probably 90% of my time is either in the office or in court. The rest is my field days. I dont feel undergunned with the snub. Our state department has only had 1 shooting in its history and the 1 round fired worked. I will still carry the glock on my field days so the snub will be my primary gun for mostly office and court days. We dont do any high speed tactical stuff and we just have the local PD handle our arrest warrants for us. I have just stepped up my reloads now its 1 speedstrip in back pocket with 4 rounds 1 speedloader front pocket and an extra speedloader in a jacket pocket. I think you guys are right if i run the snub dry 4 times and still havent solved the problem then it was a problem i wasnt going to be able to solve by myself.
Richard Simmons
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My M49 reloads every time I pull the trigger so I guess that means I carry four reloads.
Lee's Landing Billy
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2 5 shot 38s. Carry every step..Shoot everyday!!!
Live in a very low crime place so I do not always carry but when I do it is a M60 3".
I am a real believer in hitting what I am shooting at or don't pull the trigger. If the 5 in the gun are not enough, I went to the wrong place.
I am a real believer in hitting what I am shooting at or don't pull the trigger. If the 5 in the gun are not enough, I went to the wrong place.
Two speedloaders and one Bianchi speed strip... And if I'm in the woods an MTM ammo wallet.
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You need to consider that about 95% of all self defense shoots, even officer involved shoots are over and done with 5 rounds or less, fired at 5 yards or less in 5 seconds or less.
In fact, the FBI looked at 12 years of agent involved shoots and found that 75% involved 3 rounds or less at 3 yards or less.
Reloads are just not a factor in the vast majority of self defense shoots.
I'm not sure where you're working or your office policies, but my guess is that as a probation officer, you are not going to go into known hot situations, make calls in known hot areas, or go out to arrest a violator without a officer along to back you up.
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With that said, my preference is to carry a Model 66 or a Model 686+ as the K and L frame revolvers are much more effective shooters and the ballistics are better with a 2.5" or 3" barrel in either .38 +P or .357 Magnum loads.
They are a bot heavier, but in a good IWB holster they are not really any less comfortable to carry all day long and not much less concealable.
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Either way, a speed loader is still nice to have, and is much faster than a speed strip, but for concealment purposes you'll want to carry it in a slip over hold that slips over the belt and gives it a lower profile.
In fact, the FBI looked at 12 years of agent involved shoots and found that 75% involved 3 rounds or less at 3 yards or less.
Reloads are just not a factor in the vast majority of self defense shoots.
I'm not sure where you're working or your office policies, but my guess is that as a probation officer, you are not going to go into known hot situations, make calls in known hot areas, or go out to arrest a violator without a officer along to back you up.
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With that said, my preference is to carry a Model 66 or a Model 686+ as the K and L frame revolvers are much more effective shooters and the ballistics are better with a 2.5" or 3" barrel in either .38 +P or .357 Magnum loads.
They are a bot heavier, but in a good IWB holster they are not really any less comfortable to carry all day long and not much less concealable.
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Either way, a speed loader is still nice to have, and is much faster than a speed strip, but for concealment purposes you'll want to carry it in a slip over hold that slips over the belt and gives it a lower profile.
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I carry a 5 shoot 44spec 396 and 2 6 rod speed loaders. I have very little to actually worry about, but am a big bore guy. If I were working a job that constantly exposed me to the kind of people that are on parole I might chose differently, practice more with my light weight commander length 1911 and carry it. One on one in an office with other officers is one thing. Out on the street where you would never be sure about who else is around and what is going on a whole different story.
Does your agency have a position on this?
