K-32 vs model 16

I bought my Model 631 .32 Mangum Kit Gun in 1992. Great little gun. I then hoped feverishly they would finish the Kit Gun series with a 4 inch Model 60 .38 Special Kit Gun.

I've got a donor Model 15 Combat Masterpiece revolver, a nice K-22 6 inch blue barrel and a similarly nice K-22 cylinder

I just don't know where to go next.
 
I watched another K32 sell for
$3500 on gun broker Sunday.
It was a very nice gun with letter.


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I also went the build your own route with a shooter grade Model 19-3 as a donor gun and an 8 3/8" Model 16-4 barrel found on eBay. Also used a K22 cylinder and built it as a .327 Federal Magnum K Frame. Shoots as you would expect. I'm so pleased with the results that I have another at the gunsmith's now being built with a 4" barrel. I know it's a totally different animal than a collectible K32 or Model 16 but the loading and shooting joy is still the same.
 

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I had the extreme fortune of finding a late 40's mfg K-32 at a gun show in the Seattle area a few years ago for what I would consider to be a bargain price of $2,000. No box, but it does have the LERK feature and is in pretty darn good shape. When I saw it on the guys table he had it tagged at $2,500 and when I asked his best cash price I could not get the $$$ out of my pocket fast enough!

Sometimes you eat the bear......and sometimes the bear eats you!

Keep your powder dry!
 
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First, the Model 16 is a K-32 Masterpiece. Here's how it plays out.

1. In the early postwar period, S&W introduced the K-32 Masterpiece as a companion to the K-38 and K-22. At that time it had only a name - K-32 Masterpiece.

2. In the summer of 1957, S&W decided to add model numbers to the names of various revolvers. The K-32 was given the Model 16 designation, and examples began shipping in 1958. This, then, was the Model 16 K-32 Masterpiece. It had both a name and a number. The Model 16 with no dash number is extremely scarce and we assume few were made.

3. In 1961, the Model 16-2 was released. This was the first three screw Model 16 K-32 Masterpiece. Apparently there were no Model 16-1 revolvers made.

4. In 1967, the Model 16-2 was replaced by the Model 16-3. It had the same engineering change as the Model 14-3 and Model 17-3 (K-38 and K-22, respectively). The change entailed the relocation of the rear sight leaf screw, to avoid flame cutting at the screw location.

5. In 1974, the Model 16 was discontinued. It should be noted that all the Model K-32 Masterpiece revolvers up to that time (model marked or not) were chambered for the .32 S&W Long cartridge.

6. In 1989, the Model 16 was reintroduced as the Model 16-4. However, at this time it was a slightly different animal. It had a full lug barrel, which it had never had before. And, it was chambered for the relatively new .32 H&R Magnum cartridge. Production lasted until 1993.

I hope this brief history helps you. :)

Just to add to Jack's excellent summary - there was a "pre" war K-32 Target, similar to the K-22 Outdoorsman of the era except in .32 Long. If you find one, expect to add another digit to the asking price of a later K-32 (and you shouldn't convert that one to .32 Magnum anything either ;)).
 
No 32 Mag conversions for me.
I know how sweet the 32 long k32 would be.


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Question for the experts. This revolver was shipped 10-1952 and is the heavy Masterpiece K-32 model. Which is more prevalent and which is more desirable to the collector? The heavy or the light type? BTW, keep your eyes open on the For Sale ads here. I bought this in 2011 for a little over $2,000. I was lucky to be first in line as the seller had many other folks lined up to buy it. I even had a Forum member send me a box of period ammo for it,FREE. Big Larry
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I am not the local K-32 expert, but I think the post-war/pre-model K-32s are the most common. As you know none are common or undesirable, but the pre-war and model stamped examples tend to bring the biggest values. There has been discussion of early post-war K-32s with the LERK but I don't recall if anyone has even seen one.
 
I am not the local K-32 expert, but I think the post-war/pre-model K-32s are the most common. As you know none are common or undesirable, but the pre-war and model stamped examples tend to bring the biggest values. There has been discussion of early post-war K-32s with the LERK but I don't recall if anyone has even seen one.

Common? Why then the $3,500 price tags? My question was, which is scarcer, the wide rib or thin rib types? I rather doubt a 4 screw will bring more than a 5 screw. Big Larry
 
I bought my Model 631 .32 Mangum Kit Gun in 1992. Great little gun. I then hoped feverishly they would finish the Kit Gun series with a 4 inch Model 60 .38 Special Kit Gun.

I've got a donor Model 15 Combat Masterpiece revolver, a nice K-22 6 inch blue barrel and a similarly nice K-22 cylinder

I just don't know where to go next.

I don't know whether you saw this when it was current. I went through the same process in stainless a few years ago to create Project 616 (see http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/260686-project-616-a.html ) and AFAIK all of the information contained therein is still current except for the boring of the barrel... I've heard that Clearwater/Delta Gun is no longer in business. If you CAN find someone to rebore your barrel, the rest of the job will be pretty straightforward, and I was/am happy with the job Andy Horvath did for me. BTW, I had dreams of doing what you plan, even to the point of finding a good K-22 cylinder and a narrow rib K-22 barrel cut for a LERK!! but lost interest before I found a suitable donor gun. :(

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Common? Why then the $3,500 price tags? My question was, which is scarcer, the wide rib or thin rib types? I rather doubt a 4 screw will bring more than a 5 screw. Big Larry

Didn't say "common", but "'most' common" :).

My impression is the narrow barrel rib guns were made in far smaller numbers than the wide. However, there were many more 5-screw K-32 Masterpieces than 4- (or 3-) screw versions. I don't know if this translates to higher selling prices for later guns but if you have a five-figure gun buying budget, let me know...
 
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