Tips on da/sa revolver shooting?

alexfitch225

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I shot my first revolver the other day and I wasn't too bad with it but nowhere near as good as I am with an autoloader. Any compelling advice?

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Probably need some dry fire practice. An old academy trick was putting a quarter on top of the barrel for double action. Well made revolvers are capable of extreme accuracy, so it is just a matter of getting used to them. I grew up shooting SA revolvers so SA is my favorite style. But DA has it's purpose.

One of the things you also need to do is do dry fire, and not aim. Instead watch the front of your barrel to see how much you are moving it as you manipulate the trigger. After some time there will be no movement, they start working on your sight picture.
 
Practice and grip.

I'm like you. I can shoot semi autos more accurate, more consistent and faster.

I can shoot revolvers more accurately. I've been able to shoot out just the X with 6 rounds on more than one occasion however, it is slow fire DA and today I may be able to do it but tomorrow I'll be shooting left or low or not as tight. For me it also depends on the revolver. Some are just more comfortable depending on the type of grip.



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I have a few revolvers and just one semi-auto. I just like revolvers a lot more.
However, like you (and most, I think), I find it a lot easier to shoot the semi-auto. I believe they're just inherently easier to master... lighter trigger pulls, shorter reset, most shots in SA, usually more ergonomic, better sights, etc.

Not much I can add to what has already been said: All I'll say, from personal experience, is that the time and effort required to learn to shoot the DA revolver is worth it, and it will translate to your pistol shooting. You'll find it even easier than you do now.

Don't give up on the wheelgun! They're awesome! :)

PS:Just curious... what revolver were you using?
 
True!

No big secret - just go out to the Range with plenty of ammo and practice, practice, practice.... You will have fun along he way and one day everything you practiced will just "click-in".

Truer words were never spoken. BUT, you can compress the time taken to "clicking in" by getting good instruction from someone that knows how to shoot and more importantly knows how to instruct. Find that person to coach you and get a two to three 2 hour sessions on the range, you will be taken back at how rapidly you will become as good as possible. Then after a few weeks of practicing perfectly go back to that coach for a followup tuning. That will correct any slight errors in technique that you have slipped into. After that, it is as 'chief38' said, practice and practice some more regularly.

BTW1: The coach should be watching you and every aspect of you while you shoot. If a coach is watching your target as you shoot, find another coach.

BTW2: It really helps to get a handgun as close in configuration, weight and design as your big bore, in 22 Long Rifle. Take it to the range and do 50% of your practice shooting with the 22 LR. Take away the concussion and recoil of firing the big bore and you can become aware of slight technique errors on your part much quicker and at less expense, wear and tear. Working with a 22 LR handgun will amaze you in just how fast you become an accomplished shot with your big bore handgun. ....
 
We shoot a double action only revolver league every year. Shoot 2 matches a night for 8 weeks for a total of 16 matches. We use the bullseye format but change it a little. Slow fire is 5 minutes for 10 rounds, timed is 2-5 round strings in 25 seconds each and rapid is 2-5 round strings in 15 seconds each. Guns down till the target turns. Center fire guns only. We use silhouette targets. Each shot is 10 points with a total of 300 per match. I normally shoot in the low 270's.


Most have a narrow trigger on the revolvers, wrap your finger around the trigger and pull till your finger touches the frame. This should occur just before the hammer drops. Keep your front sight on the bullseye while you pull the trigger back. When your finger touches the frame, realign the sights and pull the little more required to shoot the gun while concentrating on the front sight. Watch your front sight ONLY making the rear sight and the bullseye a blur. We shoot 50 ft one handed.


When I shoot I automatically pull the trigger back till I touch the frame kinda RAPIDLY while holding on the bullseye. If I goof up and the gun goes off, I should be in the scoring rings. If all goes well, I realign and pull slowly till it fires. Rapid is interesting shooting 5 rounds in 15 seconds 2 times, you need to index quickly.


The only other thing is what I call follow through. After the gun fires, keep it up there like when you were aiming. Keep your sights aligned and pull again. When I shoot, it's mostly double action. The .22's are cheaper to practice with and all my revolver shooting is practice for the league. Right now we are shooting on week 4 of the league. Dry fire is a good way to learn but use a center fire gun. Good luck, Larry
 
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While it probably isn't in a lot of people's budget, I'll go along with Big Cholla's suggestion of a similar gun in .22.
Quite a few years ago, I picked up a Model 18-3 that the previous owner had done some work on. Great action job, red ramp front sight and a smooth polished trigger face. I added the same type grips I use on my center fire revolvers and now its a .22 clone for my defensive wheel guns. I shoot this gun more than any other revolver I own and do most of it DA. I give this gun full credit for teaching me how to shoot a DA revolver. ;)
 
It seems for me I can hit beautifully in sa but as soon as I try in da I'll stray left. Maybe I'm putting too much finger into it since I've gotten used to the sa pull length. The one I've shot was a Taurus 4 inch barrel in 38. Could I also negate the fact the gun was a rental, and I wasn't used to how the sights were set up? (Cut u style rear sight and painted green front sight) only shot 100 rounds through it. Really wasn't that bad with it but it was apparent that I hadn't shot revolvers much judging from my hits on the silhouette. Thank you all for advice though, I'll get back with y'all later on and let you know what I find.

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It seems for me I can hit beautifully in sa but as soon as I try in da I'll stray left.

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I would guess you are a right handed shooter. Shooting left and probably a little low is because you a squeezing the grip fame with your right hand and not concentrating on the trigger pull. Two handed hold, squeeze the grip frame with your left hand over your right hand fingers, relax your right hand, and concentrate pulling the trigger with your trigger finger! This is my system for 5 bowling pins off the table in 5 secs with three different revolver calibers! The sad part is I'm not as fast as the GOOD guys!
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I would guess you are a right handed shooter. Shooting left and probably a little low is because you a squeezing the grip fame with your right hand and not concentrating on the trigger pull. Two handed hold, squeeze the grip frame with your left hand over your right hand fingers, relax your right hand, and concentrate pulling the trigger with your trigger finger! This is my system for 5 bowling pins off the table in 5 secs with three different revolver calibers! The sad part is I'm not as fast as the GOOD guys!
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Why does it seem shooting revolvers is so different to auto loaders. Simply put the recoil (or lack there of) shocked me.

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Get a copy of Ed McGivern's book "Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting." It's dated but has some good, basic information and is very entertaining.
 
alex, once you do away with the reciprocating mass of the slide popping around high up top, the recoil goes away. Enjoy that revolver. You're sure to get hooked!
I honestly felt no recoil with the magtech 38 I fired. A little Smokey with a bit more muzzle flash than in used to but no big deal.

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This is where you separate the men from the boys. It is more challenging to skillfully shoot a revolver and shoot it well.

Learning revolver trigger management is more demanding. But once you have mastered the revolver, you can shoot anything.
 
Working with an instructor who knows how to run a wheelgun is probably the best way to develop good DA revolver skills. However, that's not always feasible, so here are a few tips that work for me...

Pull the trigger straight through, no hesitation or stopping. Keep it as smooth and steady as possible until the gun fires. You also want to avoid going either too slow or too fast. The goal should be to pull the trigger quickly while maintaining a smooth and steady motion. If you have difficulty maintaining alignment, you're going to slow. If you're jerking the gun off target, you're going too fast. Trigger control is more important than sight alignment.

Follow-through is also important. Don't ignore the trigger return. Use the same principles as the trigger pull, just in reverse.

I've found it helps to grip the gun with the shooting hand using front-to-back pressure. I visualize my shooting hand as a C-clamp, with my middle, ring, and pinky finger across the frontstrap as one jaw and the heel of my palm across the backstrap as the other jaw, applying pressure. A hard grip also seems to make it easier to isolate my trigger finger's movement. If shooting two-handed, the support hand applies pressure side-to-side in similar fashion. With a two-handed grip, I apply the same amount of pressure: Maximum pressure until the gun and your hands start to shake, then back off until the shaking stops.

This front-to-back grip pressure also helps with pulling the trigger straight back. Using the crease of your index finger's distal joint will give you the best leverage, but the important thing is to apply pressure straight back. If you can keep the pressure moving rearward in a straight line, it doesn't really matter how much or how little finger you have on the trigger (within reason, of course). But it's generally easier if you can get the trigger face somewhere between the center of the pad and the distal joint.

LOTS of dry fire. Get some snap caps. Establish a safe practice area (i.e., safe backstop with no live ammo present), triple check your gun to make sure it's unloaded, load in the snap caps, and do some focused dry fire practice, i.e., all of the previously mentioned tips. Just cranking on the trigger isn't going to help much, other than possibly strengthening your trigger finger. 5-10 minutes a day should be plenty. Don't practice until you're physically and/or mentally exhausted. Being tired leads to bad form.

Speaking of hand strength, building up the strength of your hands can help, too. Stronger hands mean you can exert more force with less effort, i.e. you can apply more grip force without your hands shaking. I like Captains of Crush grippers.

When you get to the range and working on trigger and sights, performing ball-and-dummy drills can be a great help. It's best if you have a partner do this, but if you're solo it can still work. Basically, mix up live ammo and empty cases in the cylinder. Ideally you don't want to know which is which, which is why it's good to have a partner for this exercise. Otherwise, give the cylinder a spin before closing it properly (DO NOT FLICK THE CYLINDER CLOSED!) if you're alone.

This is what works for me. It may or may not work for you. Give it a try and see. Try the other members' suggestions. You should be able to find something that works for you and gives you the results you're looking for.
 

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