sticker shock at local gun show...

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Went to a local show in south Louisiana last weekend, and it was quite the experience.

Attendance was very good, so that was nice. I know we don't talk politics here, but given the current climate, it was reassuring to see the large, diverse crowd (it wasn't just 1 type of person, there were lots of folks, families, multiple ethnicities, everyone milling around and generally being friendly with each other in the crowd).

But the prices- wow. I know there's some anxiety about potential changes, and there's always a markup to give you wiggle room to negotiate your price... but it seemed like most things were so high that you'd insult the seller if you offered a "good" price as a buyer.

I made a mental note of some pistols I already own, and what I saw them ticketed at on the various tables.

A Norinco Tokarev, in 9mm, with the Tokagypt (wraparound) grips... $300. No box, one mag. I know it's been a long while since I got mine, but I paid $150 for one of those, LNIB with 2 mags and the cleaning rod.
A lone Daewoo DP 51 with 1 mag, $399, in fair condition. I grabbed one off Gunbroker earlier this year for $249.
I saw several older .32 acp pistols, I've begun to take an interest in these because they WERE cheap.
I saw several CZ 27's, they ranged from $650 to $900, all were just a gun in fair to good condition with 1 mag. And before you mention the historical context/WW2 angle, the cheapest of these was at a table with other WW2 guns, the others were just sitting in random groups, seller didn't try to call them wartime. I've picked up 3 of these since Feb 2017 (my son's birthday), the first was $225, the second was $150, the 3rd was $250.

Saw 2 Mauser 1914's, one was $850 and the other was $1000. I picked one off gunbroker last fall for $199, and honestly mine was in better (and more original) shape. The one listed for a grand had a far different bluing on the sideplate, so I think it was a mixmaster.

I did see a single, lone S&W 5906 and a 659 at one table, they wanted $400 for either. Both were scuffed up and no box, and the 659 didn't have original grips. I considered haggling on the 5906, but decided to let that one go.
Couple of Rugers, saw a 89 in decent shape for $350, and a lot of polished/shiny slide later models for about $375 or so.

Beyond that, disappointedly, I didn't see much in the line of used pistols. Didn't see a single CZ 75, only saw 1 Beretta 92S (wanted $400 for it).

I will say that I did see one very good deal (I beleive), but I ended up pausing, but passing because I don't shoot the caliber:
one guy had a Tanfoglio Witness in 10mm with 3 extra mags, for $399. It was in fair/good condition, blued, and it's the one gun I still find myself thinking "I don't need that, but maybe I should go grab it while I can".

As for other guns:
several tables were set up selling ARs, advertised as PSA, for $700+. A couple entire rows were taken up by local gun shops with new pistols, Glocks etc, with their regular instore markups listed.

Of note, I saw one guy selling a bunch of different mags, he lad them sorted and set in labeled bins saying what they were for (like he knew), but he couldn't tell me when I asked about the High Standard .22 mags whether they would fit my Sport King (I think they were for a Duramatic); when I tried to strike up a conversation he walked off, and it wasn't a busy table. He went to talk to another vendor :mad:. That aggravated me, because I own over a dozen different models of pistol, and definitely would have been in the market for some mags if the price was decent.

One old fella with plenty of older surplus guns was very friendly, we chatted awhile, and I bought the correct leather sling for my Argentine Mauser from him.

Overall, it was a fun time to walk through, but it seemed like things were more for display than for sale. This was the first gun show I'd been to that I didn't come away with at least 1 new (to me) gun in tow.
 
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The show I went to last weekend had the same batch of tables they always do, but it seemed like I saw FAR more pistols than I did AR's. I was looking for the M&P-15 and saw a few in the $550-600 range, and told my friend that was with me that I'd seen them for $499 online. I didn't ask for a "what would you take" price, so they might have gone lower but it was the first day of the show, and the place was packed so they may not have.

I noticed a table with $299 AR kits was very busy, thanks to the gun climate of late.
 
A Norinco Tokarev, in 9mm, with the Tokagypt (wraparound) grips... $300. No box, one mag

I bought one with the stock grips for $75 a few years back.
 
The assorted 32 acp's from war-time, depends on who made them and if proof/acceptance marked by the germans. But, CZ27's usually sell for $450 and up - $650-$750 for a complete rig in very nice condition.

Gun shows usually have higher prices because the sellers don't know the market for specialty items, well, I saw a PPK go for $1500 - so this 7.65mm (32 acp) must be worth almost that!
 
In my experience, almost exclusively in CA, guns at gun shows are uniformly overpriced. I have bought them there from time to time (nothing current production) because they had what I wanted and I was willing to pay the price.
 
The days of the $300 5906 police trade in are gone. Same for $200 foreign 9mm surplus pistols. Once the supply dried up, the prices increased.

CZ27s fetch stupid money IMHO. It's just an older, 380 blowback gun. The CZ24 holds far more interest for me.
 
It's been a long time since I've found any kind of deal at a gun show. Most everything is overpriced or at the least at MSRP. I'm not one to want to play the haggle game so if you can't give me the best price from the start I don't even try to buy from you. Most of the time I can get a better price online even with the FFL fee. The only reason I go is to check out whatever guns I might be thinking about buying.
 
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But you can meet some good people, and just look at all the eye candy on the tables. I sometimes buy a little ammo. I just wander around and look mostly. Some are interesting, some a waste of time.:rolleyes:

Same here. I can't ever recall seeing a good price on a firearm at a show. Ammo? Maybe. Accessories? Actually, yes.

I go with the thought that my getting something is slim to none.
 
I guess it depends on the show, and what area its in. I go to a few now and then here in central PA, and usually I come across at least a few guns that are what I would consider to be "good deals". The big question is it something I want? Last show I went to a month or so ago, I picked up a new Kahr .380 for $275.00, which I thought was a good price. As far as prices go, I have generally had better luck at local garage sales and estate sales. A few years back I went to a garage sale that had two heavy boxes full of reloading gear - dies, scales, bullet moulds, and RCBS jr press, ect. $10 per box..:)

Larry
 
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And I have not been to a gun show since the early 70's....gun shows have gotten stupid.


Dude, that was 45 years ago! How do you know it is the same now?
At least OP found his sling.


I have had the exact opposite experience in the past few years at local shows. Within 50 miles to be exact. I only make 4-5 a year but have scored some pretty good deals.

Last year I rented a table at a small show 25 miles away to sell my buddy's dad's ammo he had squirreled away but got sent to a 'home' and couldn't take it with him. I had a 2 1/2" model 19 walk up that was priced at $355 and wouldn't take a nickel less. I gave it to him.
At the same show I bought a Winchester 75 Sporting Model that is most likely the prettiest gun I own. Gave the vendor $600.

Four years ago on a Sunday I was manning my buddy's table at Dallas Arms Collectors Show early, before opening, and had a pre-19 walk up in the hands of a vendor who needed cash for something else. He knew what he had but priced it at $600. I tried not to look foolish in getting my wallet out so fast.

I have a semi-friend, really an acquaintance, a couple of years ago at the hometown show who had an Ashland 4" 617 he wanted to trade for a blued gun. I told him what it was worth but he wanted the pre-18 I had. I still feel a little bad about that one but he was warned.

At the same show, a vendor had a Model 700 Varmint Special from 1981 in .223 for $450. This was on Sunday and it is in extremely nice shape and shoots lights out with a 55 grain Sierra BTHP. I thought it was a good deal.


I don't find stuff every show but it does still show up.


Ed
 
We haven't had a gun show here in over year. I wonder if the dealers still think they can get over $700 for a nice M36 with no box or docs. . .one from the 1970's.
 
Our gun shows have two types of sellers. Two or three dealers have decided to go high volume/low mark-up and do lots of business. The rest of the vendors are the usual small-timers who dream of finding the dummy of the day who will make them rich by over-paying.
 
Ever since I got into bolt action shotguns the gunshows have been fun. Last show in Vallejo i picked up a like new western field slugster for $65.
 
Gun shows here in Pensacola are mostly sky high and I suspect they take home most of what they bring in. I normally can find a deal on mags, powder, primers and beef jerky but not on guns. I've always done better on local gun ads. I don't expect it get any better any time soon.
 
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