Why No 30 or 33 Round M&P Mags?

Smoke said:
Bottom line? No market or not enough market to turn a profit.
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There's no market for hicap mags???? Pistol caliber carbines are very popular. AR9s, AK9s, Ruger PCC, Kel Tec Sub2k, etc... These all use Glock mags. One of the selling point they'll of Glocks are the fact that they except hicap mags, AND the fact that the same mags work in PCC's.

Not only that, if S&W created a 30+ round mag, other manufactures would created firearms and adaptors that supports them...
 
Harper said:
I personally would never bother with a 30-33rd mag in my pistol. I think people might buy them for the "coolness" factor.

IMO, for anyone who thinks they really NEED one, whatever the situation, what they really need is better training, more discipline.
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I agree. Using that same line of thought, I think no one NEEDS those 15-17 rounder M&P mags. No one who owns and carries the aforementioned M&Ps NEEDS to carry a spare mag as well. Like you said, they need better training....
 
If S&W doesn't want to offer 30 round mags for the M&P, then that's their business. Mec-Gar could do it, of course. I wouldn't want a Pro-Mag. Had enough of them 20 years ago to know they're trash.

All I know is I haven't owned a Glock in 20 years. When I got the Ruger PCC-9, I immediately switched out the magwell for the Glock one. I also bought 3 33 round Glock mags (just because). I also bought 3 10 round Glock 26 mags, and several Glock 17 mags. And buying all of those mags has made me consider having a pistol to pair it to, specifically a Glock 19 or 17. And if there were quality 30 round mags for the M&P, and a mag well insert for the PCC-9, the Glock wouldn't even be considered. Making 30 round mags doesn't require research or development. It's a steel tube and a longer spring. Just seems dumb to not invest the very small investment for an easy return.

But I guess I'm a "child" for liking the versatility. And I guess I don't see the difference in offering a 30 round mag option for a rifle, when they ship every M&P 15 with one. Seems to me 17 rounds in a .223 is "enough", as well. And do you think that just maybe Ruger included a Glock adapter because it would be a drawing point to those who not only owned Glocks (NOT like myself), but to also include those who wanted the option of 30 rounds in a home defense or sporting Carbine (like myself)?
 
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I shoot for fun
More rounds = more fun time
In a self defense situation...more is ok or even better .
We are talking pistol calibers...tactics call for multiple hits for immediate stops...
again more is better.

So the entire .....stop liking what I don't like thing is ignorant ...IMO
 
If you want to increase magazine capacity for your M&P pistols, consider magazine extensions from Taylor Freelance and others. That way you can expand capacity when you want, and keep capacity standard when you want. Best of both worlds.
 
kbm6893 said:
Just wondering. If the M&P is a competitor to Glock, especially the new 2.0 Compact to the Glock 19, and the Kel Tec Su-2000 has an M&P version, why wouldn't S&W make a 30 or 30 plus round magazine to compete with the factory Glock 33 round mags?
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I have never considered Glock to be Smith and Wesson's competitor

Glock will never be the well rounded firearms company that Smith and Wesson is

With the exception of the Glock Model 18, I have never seen a need for a 30+ round magazine in a handgun. The 33 round Glock mag was designed for the Model 18. That is why the 33 round Glock mag initially appeared in their lineup. However most are probably purchased for the cool factor

The 15+1 rounds in my M&P357 do me just fine.

If I am going into a situation where I feel the need for a 30 round magazine, then I want something more than a hand gun to go with that extra ammunition.

In those situations I take a carbine or SMG and look for cover.

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But this is America and there does not have to be a NEED for something, just a want or desire.
 
S&W probably doesn't offer 30+ mags because of one reason. Not enough profit in it for them.

I have a few 32 round mags for a Ruger I own and though they are fun range toys, I don't envision using them for HD and efinitely not for ccw.
 
It's profit driven.

You aren't going to make anymore money on a 30rd mag compared to a 17rd mag. Yeah, it's just a longer tube and spring, but S&W would have to put some capital (even a small amount is still capital) into development, testing, and production. Production itself would require assembly line time that would compete with existing product. That existing product (17rd mags) brings S&W the same amount of profit. It really doesn't make any sense to make 30 rd mags from a profit standpoint.

They will sell the 17rd mags for sure. They come with the guns. They come with contracts. They get sold as separate spares. The 30 rd mags are a very limited market. You would be stopping production of a sure sale, to produce something with less market appeal. You would be only making a couple bucks per mag. The same couple of bucks they will make on the standard size.

It's just not worth it to S&W.
 
I have three recently manufactured 32 round M&P ProMags for my Keltec Sub2k. So far, 500 rounds through it with no malfunctions. Just out of curiosity, I ran a few full mags through my 2.0 compact with no issues as well. I did not like the way the compact felt with that large of a mag, but I think it's a viable option for anyone that feels the need for a 30 plus round handgun.
 
"Making 30 round mags doesn't require research or development."

If that is true, why is it that mag and often times mag springs is the #1 cause of malfunctions? Why is it that the shield and S&W had such bad "rap" for mag spring failures?


If it was so easy peasy, with no testing necessary these things would not even be a discussion point on these forums.

If there was auch a profit margin to be made for 30+ round M&P, then the after market mag makers would be all over it other than promag. The fact they are not suggests the industry has concluded there is not enough profit to get into the business.


I think whats needed clearly is belt fed handgun with unlimited length belts of ammo. It sure would be fun at the range and drive the mag capacity limiters crazy!


Same story on RSA springs as well.
 
Once the liberals figure out there are 30+ round magazines for semi-automatic pistols, said pistols will go the way of the AR and the dodo bird.

Just looking into the future .... didn't say I liked it ... enjoy them while you still can.
 
msauter said:
Once the liberals figure out there are 30+ round magazines for semi-automatic pistols, said pistols will go the way of the AR and the dodo bird.

Just looking into the future .... didn't say I liked it ... enjoy them while you still can.
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BigSky! said:
I don't know the answer. However, I for one get tired waiting for the end of a 17 round magazine to arrive. Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly enjoy loading and re-loading magazines. It just seems as though it takes forever. I guess I felt the same way loading my 33-round Glock magazine the first time. In the middle of that loading I said to myself, "self, I'm getting rid of this thing". I got rid of it.
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Trust me,if you're ever in a fight with it you won't get tired of waiting for it to run dry!:eek:
 
Reading this thread, some of you make excellent arguments on why "high capacity magazines" aka +10 rounds aren't needed in any gun or rifle for that matter. Would be funny if ainties did a gun control PSA using screen shots of what some gun owners post on gun forums.
 
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gonerydin said:
Promag make 32 round magazines for the M&P9 if you must have them.


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Thanks, but NO thanks!

Friends, do NOT let friends use Promag magazines, they are complete junk IMHO and I wouldn't waste a penny on them.

Soooooo, thanks, but NO thanks! ;)
 
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