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On My Way to the Land of Enchantment -- Deming, New Mexico!
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It's a traditionally a holiday fixing and I may post it for that.
Congrats on your new gig! Sounds like you'll be doing good things in your work. I trust you'll find it real rewarding.
My people are all either up in Portales, or over in the Taos area.
Next time I'm up that way, maybe we'll meet.
All the best.
Jim
My people are all either up in Portales, or over in the Taos area.
Next time I'm up that way, maybe we'll meet.
All the best.
Jim
Abbynormal
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Track down and take to lunch Bart Skelton (Skeeter's son) and give a good report!
All I know about New Mexico comes from Breaking Bad.
LoboGunLeather
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"Spanglish" is an excellent description of much daily communication in southern Colorado and northern New Mexico! There has been a lot of cultural and language mingling over the years.
As for studying Spanish, if that is of interest be sure to specify Latin American Spanish (or Mexican Spanish), which is quite a bit different than modern European Spanish. In the San Luis Valley area (south-central Colorado extending into north-central New Mexico) many of the Spanish-speaking families have been there for 250-plus years, and much of the Spanish spoken there is more closely related to the "high Spanish" (Castillian Spanish) of the 17th-18th Centuries. Some scholars recognize the Spanish language spoken in this part of the country as a dialect, given its differences from the Spanish spoken in Latin America or Europe. An interesting area of study.
"Spanglish" is fairly common, usually among families that originated locally during the early-to-mid 20th Century. A mixture of English with Spanish (or Spanish slang). Confusing to outsiders (English or Spanish speakers) at first, but over time it becomes quite normal. I'm sure the more recent immigrant Spanish speakers have as much difficulty with it as many Anglos.
My home is less than 90 miles from the north border of New Mexico. Pueblo has always been a hub of travel and commerce for the southern Colorado and northern New Mexico region. Many similarities in the land, the economy, and the people.
Best regards.
Welcome to New Mexico. Let me know if you're ever in the Albuquerque area.
Dave
Dave
I lived east of Deming on Lewis Flats Road for 8 years. If you like to shoot jackrabbits, rattlesnakes, and quail, you've made it to Heaven! There are just miles and miles and miles of empty desert where no one cares about shooting, and something interesting everywhere you turn. 'Big' shopping is in Las Cruces, 70 miles east, or El Paso, 110 miles east, and if you need specialized medical care there is one of the best hospitals in the world, Mayo Clinic, in Tucson, about 5 hours west. You'll want to explore Ft. Cummings, Cooke's Peak, and some of the lesser-known interesting historical spots that hardly anyone knows about; you can also see a disappearing river (the Mimbres) that suddenly just stops about 17 miles north of Deming - it feeds the black sand aquifer under Deming that has the very best well water I've ever tasted, and I come originally from limestone water country in SW Missouri.
Once folks see you've bought a house there and intend to make a home, you'll be in good standing with all. There are good churches if you're interested; the flattest golf course in America is there at the Country Club. There are sweet Mimbres onions, better green chiles than in Hatch, and the soil is so rich that if you put water on it, anything at all will grow, which is why there is so much agricultural enterprise (where there are water rights). You can cruise to the International Port of Entry at Palomas, south of Columbus, and walk across the border to buy U.S. prescription meds cheaper than your co-pay (not narcotics nor painkillers), eat at the Pink Cafe, then take home some not-for-export Carta Blanca beer in the squatty brown bottles with an opener cast into the bottom of each one. I think Bart Skelton now lives in Silver City rather than Deming, but I lost track of him a couple of years ago - he and I worked for the same outfit for a few years.
You'll also find all kinds of folks who've retired there because of the great weather and very low cost of living - it's nice to be around folks of a certain age (I'm Social Security eligible right now).
I would still be there, but the mountains called me - I'm now living near Ruidoso when not contracting (currently in Baghdad), and that's where they will bury my bones.
Is your MH facility what used to be called Border Area Mental Health Services across the street from the hospital?
Once folks see you've bought a house there and intend to make a home, you'll be in good standing with all. There are good churches if you're interested; the flattest golf course in America is there at the Country Club. There are sweet Mimbres onions, better green chiles than in Hatch, and the soil is so rich that if you put water on it, anything at all will grow, which is why there is so much agricultural enterprise (where there are water rights). You can cruise to the International Port of Entry at Palomas, south of Columbus, and walk across the border to buy U.S. prescription meds cheaper than your co-pay (not narcotics nor painkillers), eat at the Pink Cafe, then take home some not-for-export Carta Blanca beer in the squatty brown bottles with an opener cast into the bottom of each one. I think Bart Skelton now lives in Silver City rather than Deming, but I lost track of him a couple of years ago - he and I worked for the same outfit for a few years.
You'll also find all kinds of folks who've retired there because of the great weather and very low cost of living - it's nice to be around folks of a certain age (I'm Social Security eligible right now).
I would still be there, but the mountains called me - I'm now living near Ruidoso when not contracting (currently in Baghdad), and that's where they will bury my bones.
Is your MH facility what used to be called Border Area Mental Health Services across the street from the hospital?
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cowboy4evr
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The Mayo Clinic is not in Tucson ! It's in Scottsdale . I should know , I took my now departed wife there numerous times . Regards, Paul
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Glad to see that you got everything worked out for your employment. I was born in New Mexico and lived there as a youngster. Different place, different experiences, and I am sure very different from the NM. of my youth, heck everywhere is different now! I have lived where you are coming from, and the one thing I can remember from my time in NM. BE SURE TO CHECK YOUR SHOES BEFORE PUTTING THEM ON! 
Best of luck and have a great time!
Best of luck and have a great time!
kthom
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Ματθιας;140358940 said:
It is in some places, but here at my house, it's an at least once a month treat, and usually more often, and year round! My cook makes up a pretty good sized pot full so that we have it for left overs maybe three or four times unless we have company for supper! And posole gets better every time it's warmed up! I like mine best with corn tortilla chips or cornbread! YUM!!
Please post that recipe and I'll be glad to give it a test, compared to that that momma makes! There are lots of variations on posole, depending on whose doing the cooking! Haven't ever tasted any really bad posole, but some are sure better than others, at least according to my taste buds!
kthom
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Jim,
Portales was town for me all my growing up years and I also still have family there. I grew up on a dry land farm and dairy about 20 miles southwest of Portales. Went to school (as did my dad) at the small place known as Floyd which is west of Portales about 18 miles or so. I have LOTS of memories, mostly good, of having grown up in that area. I lived and worked in New Mexico for over 60 years before moving to West Texas. Folks here are mostly as friendly or better than I was used to in NM, and especially as of late, the political climate here is soooo much better than it has turned in NM! But I do miss the fact that there was so much public land in NM and places where shooting and hunting could be done easily without having to pay for the privilege was great!
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charlie sherrill
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New Mexico and Mississippi are always listed on the bottom end of worst places to live list. I've got a 23 acre little farm and a house for under $150,000.00 that would cost over a million dollars in some other states. I live less than two hours from Florida beaches, New Orleans, and plenty of good hunting, fishing, college and pro sports, and my own shooting range and some of the best gun laws in the country. A+ medical facilities are only minutes away. Most things are a lot cheaper than other parts of the country. I suspect N.Mexico is the same way. I was in Deming a couple of years ago and while exploring we found and old 30 something Plymouth that had run off into a gully never to be recovered. I pulled the grill off of it and it hangs in my barn. All the glass was gone and nothing else on the car was usable. It didn't have any bullet holes in it like it should have so we fixed that.
ShivasIrons
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Looks like Jamestown is #2 by a hair....this is what I dug up:
- St. Augustine, Florida (1565)
- Jamestown, Virginia (1607)
- Santa Fe, New Mexico (1607)
- Hampton, Virginia (1610)
- Kecoughtan, Virginia (1610)
- Newport News, Virginia (1613)
- Albany, New York (1614)
- Jersey City, New Jersey (1617)
- Plymouth, Massachusetts (1620)
- Weymouth, Massachusetts (1622)
Scholars seem not agree on exact dates, but this list has Virginia with 4 of the 10 oldest cities. According to these guys Jamestown and Santa Fe were both 1607, but I have found 1609 and 1610 referenced for Santa Fe as well. Wish I had a time machine!
Jamestown is first English settlement.
AZretired
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I lived in New Mexico from 1977 when the Army sent me to White Sands until I retired from LE in 2006. I spent my LE career in Grants and Rio Rancho. I am Anglo but I have many friends close enough to be called family in Bibo and Seboyeta (near Laguna). I still visit the Albuquerque area frequently as my daughter is a high school english teacher.
I think NM often gets a bad rap as far as education goes I raised 3 kids K-12 and College) on NM schools and they got a fine education. A lot of negative comments about NM crime and I don't think it's really changed all that much since the 70's, it's just reported on TV and the internet more.
I currently live south of Phoenix because my wife's allergies seem better here and AZ doesn't tax your Social Security income.
The big thing I miss here is good New Mexican food. Arizona's version of mexican food just ain't the same!
I think NM often gets a bad rap as far as education goes I raised 3 kids K-12 and College) on NM schools and they got a fine education. A lot of negative comments about NM crime and I don't think it's really changed all that much since the 70's, it's just reported on TV and the internet more.
I currently live south of Phoenix because my wife's allergies seem better here and AZ doesn't tax your Social Security income.
The big thing I miss here is good New Mexican food. Arizona's version of mexican food just ain't the same!
THE PILGRIM
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Jamestown is first English settlement.
My Folks were early in Jamestown, maybe.
Or later nearby, I haven't been able to positively who I'm kin to.
Speaking of Santa Fe-
The Spanish settlers had that 1680 Pueblo Revolt and got run out of Dodge!
But they had a successful re-conquest in 1692 and a re-start.
Re-date?
Pueblo Revolt - Wikipedia
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Española, New Mexico, predates Santa Fe.
Don Juan de Oñate declared Española, NM a capital for Spain on July 11, 1598. It was/is the first European-established capital in the New World. It was first called San Juan de los Caballeros from 1598 until 1610, and from 1610 onward the capital was La Villa Real de la Santa Fe de San Francisco de Asís - aka Santa Fe.
On a related but different note:
The colors of New Mexico's Flag, red and yellow, are the same as Spain's national colors.
Arizona also has red and yellow in its state flag in honor of its Spanish heritage.
Also NM's unofficial state symbol is the orange road construction barrel.
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My wife's ancestry goes back to early Seboyeta. We need to get out there sometime. And you nailed it on the food. Nobody competes with NM on proper southwestern food. No, not Mexican.
Texas Star
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The late author Donald Hamilton lived for many years in New Mexico and his Matt Helm thrillers will tell you a lot about that state.
I found pictures of him in his home. It looked rather rustic. I see from photos here that many of the places seen look very run down.
I haven't been there since I was about ten, on a family vacation. We had a pretty good hotel called, I believe, La Fonda in either Santa Fe or Albuquerque. I remember ordering barracuda in the hotel restaurant. In New Mexico! At the time, I didn't know that barracudas often contain a poison called ciguatera, possibly lethal. I guess the fish I ate didn't have that issue as I didn't get sick. But I wouldn't eat barracuda now!
Some of the wild country we saw was quite pretty. But I learned the hard way not to drink from a stream. My father had this idea that flowing, clear water is safe. NOT! I had to see a doctor and was miserable and probably lucky to have lived. I recall that every time I see people drink from a jungle stream on TV or in a movie.
Green chile, even the look of it, repels me. Chili should be brown.
I'm allergic to jalapenos and maybe other hot peppers. I have asthma and almost died when a Mexican restaurant in Dallas served me a chicken breast that was grilled where they'd just cooked something with jalapenos in it. If you have asthma, be SURE to carry your Albuterol inhaler in New Mexican restaurants. It may save your life. Of course, you should carry it everywhere.
I remember an episode of the Aussie TV series, Sea Patrol where a boy on an island had an asthma attack. His Ventolin (albuterol) inhaler was back on a tour boat. The Royal Australian Navy managed a rescue by rushing to the boat and back with that inhaler. The patrol boat didn't have inhalers in their medic's supplies!
I'm mentioning this in case it applies to some here who may go to NM. If you do, their cooking so much with hot peppers may trigger an attack.
Another caveat applies to taking pictures in Indian pueblos. My mother took some and and an Indian wandered over and demanded a fee for that!
I enjoyed seeing the old governor's palace and the artists in Santa Fe. And saw trout swim in gin-clear mountain streams.
But be careful of buying things like moccasins that they claim are authentic Apache stuff. The pair I got turned out to have been made in Japan!
I found pictures of him in his home. It looked rather rustic. I see from photos here that many of the places seen look very run down.
I haven't been there since I was about ten, on a family vacation. We had a pretty good hotel called, I believe, La Fonda in either Santa Fe or Albuquerque. I remember ordering barracuda in the hotel restaurant. In New Mexico! At the time, I didn't know that barracudas often contain a poison called ciguatera, possibly lethal. I guess the fish I ate didn't have that issue as I didn't get sick. But I wouldn't eat barracuda now!
Some of the wild country we saw was quite pretty. But I learned the hard way not to drink from a stream. My father had this idea that flowing, clear water is safe. NOT! I had to see a doctor and was miserable and probably lucky to have lived. I recall that every time I see people drink from a jungle stream on TV or in a movie.
Green chile, even the look of it, repels me. Chili should be brown.
I'm allergic to jalapenos and maybe other hot peppers. I have asthma and almost died when a Mexican restaurant in Dallas served me a chicken breast that was grilled where they'd just cooked something with jalapenos in it. If you have asthma, be SURE to carry your Albuterol inhaler in New Mexican restaurants. It may save your life. Of course, you should carry it everywhere.
I remember an episode of the Aussie TV series, Sea Patrol where a boy on an island had an asthma attack. His Ventolin (albuterol) inhaler was back on a tour boat. The Royal Australian Navy managed a rescue by rushing to the boat and back with that inhaler. The patrol boat didn't have inhalers in their medic's supplies!
I'm mentioning this in case it applies to some here who may go to NM. If you do, their cooking so much with hot peppers may trigger an attack.
Another caveat applies to taking pictures in Indian pueblos. My mother took some and and an Indian wandered over and demanded a fee for that!
I enjoyed seeing the old governor's palace and the artists in Santa Fe. And saw trout swim in gin-clear mountain streams.
But be careful of buying things like moccasins that they claim are authentic Apache stuff. The pair I got turned out to have been made in Japan!
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Erich
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Erich should be chiming in soon, especially about restaurants.
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