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Sadly, the anti-constitutional legislation is flowing out of committee, multiple bills combined, but otherwise with very few changes. This morning I read an email from the VCDL indicating that the Democrats are not even following their own rules when it comes to passing these bills out of committee. Sad, but it seems the new Democrat party is a party of tyranny with no respect for rules, laws, or constitutions.
 
I've spoken to my representatives. Response - "we don't care about the gun owner's and their protests." Of course, I'm in NOVA
 
I've spoken to my representatives. Response - "we don't care about the gun owner's and their protests." Of course, I'm in NOVA

Well, that said it all, didn’t it.
There’s hardly a comment in the msm about the NRA rally yesterday.......
If I say more, I’ll get dinged.
 
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I've spoken to my representatives. Response - "we don't care about the gun owner's and their protests." Of course, I'm in NOVA

It's okay to say their names here. We've called out the governor by name, along with the attorney general and other Virginia reps here on this forum.

So who are the representatives who said that to you? I'm sure all Virginia gun owners/voters would like to contact them and voice their opinions on Virginia's proposed gun bills.

It shouldn't be a secret who's pro-gun and anti-gun in the Virginia legislature. Voters need to know who's with them and who's against them.
 
Sadly, the anti-constitutional legislation is flowing out of committee, multiple bills combined, but otherwise with very few changes. This morning I read an email from the VCDL indicating that the Democrats are not even following their own rules when it comes to passing these bills out of committee. Sad, but it seems the new Democrat party is a party of tyranny with no respect for rules, laws, or constitutions.

Which is why I never vote for one, ever.
 
This is VCDL's report on Monday's action:
Several thousand gun owners turned out at the temporary General Assembly Building on Monday, January 13! The hearing room was divided into two areas - the larger area for gun-rights supporters and the other was a smaller area for gun-control supporters.
Gun owners filled up their side of the room quickly, while the gun controllers side was still pretty empty. To make it looked like they had more people and not look so pitiful, a search for gun-controllers in the waiting line outside the meeting room doors was conducted. Countless gun owners in the line were skipped over in the search for more gun-controllers. Whenever a gun controller was found, they were allowed to go into the meeting room, but no more gun owners were allowed in.
Sheriff Scott Jenkins of Culpeper County and Sheriff Richard Vaughn of Grayson County were in the room in support of gun owners. Sheriff Jenkins spoke twice during the hearings.
The meeting was chaired by Democrat Senator John Edwards. The Republicans on the committee pointed out multiple mistakes and even rules that were broken in the running of the committee, but the Democrat-controlled committee ignored the complaints and lurched forward anyhow, rules be damned.
Republican Senator Bill Stanley, who could not be at the hearing due to a trial he had to attend, had been promised by John Edwards that no gun bills would be heard on Monday, but Senator Edwards went back on his word and gun bills were heard anyhow. Senator Mark Obenshain brought up that broken promise, but to no avail.
Each side was only given 5 minutes total to speak on each bill.
The first gun-control bill to pass out of committee was SB 69, a one-handgun a month bill, which reinstated the last version of that law before it was repealed. Senator Saslaw's version of that same bill, SB 22, was rolled into SB 69 and SB 69 was passed out by a partisan vote of 9 to 5. Republican senators Mark Obenshain and Ryan McDougle put up strong resistance, as did speakers who pointed out that the law had been a failure, but to no avail.
Next up was SB 70, a Universal Background Check bill. Saslaw's version of the same bill, SB 12, was rolled into SB 70. A substitute bill was then offered for SB 70, which made the background checks only apply to sales of guns and not transfers, which fixes the problems with letting a friend or family member use one of your guns without you being constantly present. However, it still strips an 18, 19, or 20 year old from being able to own a handgun, since a dealer cannot process a handgun purchased by federal law for someone that age. Also, a background check would have to be run on all sales, even sales to immediate family members, friends, etc.! SB 70 passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5.
Senator Barker's Red Flag Law bill, SB 240, was eviscerated, as all the flaws and dangers of that bill were brought up by Republicans Obenshain, McDougle, and Chafin on the committee, as well as by the pro-gun speakers. None of the concerns were addressed and the bill was passed by a partisan vote of 9 to 5.
Finally, SB 615, SB 450, and SB 505, all of which allow localities to pass various gun-control ordinances, were rolled into a substitute version of SB 35, making SB 35 an omnibus bill that destroys preemption by allowing Virginia localities to create a confusing set of local gun-control laws. Again, speaker after speaker spoke against SB 35, but it passed by a partisan 9 to 5 vote.
The gun-control bills that passed out of committee will now head to the Senate Floor to be voted on in a few days. VCDL will have an acton item shortly to bombard Senators with calls and emails encouraging them to opposed the four bills.

Elections have consequences and we are in a real fight to protect our rights.
 
So there was a big turnout by pro gun folks, or at least dwarfing the anti’s, guess you can’t believe the “reports”.
 
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No, you cannot believe the media reports, they have an agenda and it is not exactly pro-constitution, which is surprising as they supposedly hold the first amendment in such high regard.
 
This is VCDL's report on Monday's action

Do you have a link for that? Because I can't find it on VCDL's website.

No, you cannot believe the media reports, they have an agenda and it is not exactly pro-constitution, which is surprising as they supposedly hold the first amendment in such high regard.

And everything Phillip Van Cleave says is gospel, right?

I'm playing Devil's Advocate here...I'm still waiting to see the photos of "thousands of people" who showed up in Richmond yesterday, especially when a non-media person is talking about a disappointing turnout. Don't tell me if thousands of people were there, none of them had cameras or cell phones and/or no one made any photos. And only one S&W Forum member from Virginia showed up? Kudos to him, at any rate. Oh, and photos posted by VCDL on their website of rallies from a year or two ago don't count.

If the VCDL is supposedly the Big Dog in Virginia's Second Amendment battles, then let's hear something from them besides a bunch of barking and howling.
 
It's okay to say their names here. We've called out the governor by name, along with the attorney general and other Virginia reps here on this forum.

So who are the representatives who said that to you? I'm sure all Virginia gun owners/voters would like to contact them and voice their opinions on Virginia's proposed gun bills.

It shouldn't be a secret who's pro-gun and anti-gun in the Virginia legislature. Voters need to know who's with them and who's against them.
I’ve been wondering the same thing myself...
 
Wasn’t this an NRA rally? VCDL’s rally is next week, the 20th, right? Is the NRA now working with VCDL in an organized Two-front effort?
Ive had my head down recently, so may have missed some key points here.
 
VCDL kicked things off and I think next Monday’s rally ( VCDL) will be bigger.
For some reason the NRA rally was not publicized well and arrived late.
I’m all for holding a rally EVERY Monday until this is put behind us.
 
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Got this VCDL update last night: AP Exclusive: Northam to Ban Guns From Capitol Grounds – NBC4 Washington

Here's a local TV station's report from this morning: Governor Northam to ban guns at Capitol Square ahead of rally | 8News

If you are coming to the rally by car look at the GRTC web page to see the current road closures plan. I plan to park on a side street and ride the bus as far downtown as it will go. Stay current on local Richmond news if you're planning to attend and wear good walking shoes.

Lobby Day Road Closures and GRTC Detours | GRTC
 
Just heard that Va dems want to pass a bill to shut down indoor shooting ranges. Tucker reported this on Fox.
We in NH that love freedom will hope and pray you can overcome this wave of gun legislation. We are fighting for our freedoms here also.
Jim
 
I read where it’s indoor ranges that have at least 50 employees. Which is a rather large range indeed. Perhaps it was a typo and they meant 50 members?
What’s the purpose in that? Obviously it would also sell guns and ammo and offer that “ deadly” self defense training.
They always have a purpose, even if it’s insane.
 
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I read where it’s indoor ranges that have at least 50 employees. Which is a rather large range indeed. Perhaps it was a typo and they meant 50 members?
What’s the purpose in that? Obviously it would also sell guns and ammo and offer that “ deadly” self defense training.
They always have a purpose, even if it’s insane.

There is a public shooting range in the basement of the NRA headquarters building in northern Va. That's the target of this bill.
 
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