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I want to live in a world in which ads like this actually exist, even if they are intended as a parody/social satire of early-mid 1900s sensibilities.
Oh, and before anyone says that ads like that didn't actually exist, these ARE real...
Oh, and before anyone says that ads like that didn't actually exist, these ARE real...
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The political incorrectness of the early Savage ads is legendary:
Bad Indians, helpless females unless they have a Savage pistol that "even a woman" can point ....
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Hey, I'm very offended by that Savage rifle ad. It just so happens that I'm 1/4 Cherokee...no...wait...I'm 1/8 Apache...no...wait a minute...I'm 1/16 Comanche...no, wait...I'm
1/25 Crow...yeah...that's it...no...wait...I'm...
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I dunno if I'd go so far as to call them "sexist" simply because they were a product of their time, and considering the sensibilities of the time, women weren't exactly known for being gun-savvy, so the ad made sense considering the target demographic.
However, I agree that they are amusing, if for no other reason than simply being so unapologetically politically incorrect by today's standards...
Honestly though, I like their attitude towards guns being a means to protect your loved ones or recreation with family, not as instruments of murder which apparently not even policemen can be trusted with.
However, I agree that they are amusing, if for no other reason than simply being so unapologetically politically incorrect by today's standards...
Honestly though, I like their attitude towards guns being a means to protect your loved ones or recreation with family, not as instruments of murder which apparently not even policemen can be trusted with.
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Hey, I'm very offended by that Savage rifle ad. It just so happens that I'm 1/4 Cherokee...no...wait...I'm 1/8 Apache...no...wait a minute...I'm 1/16 Comanche...no, wait...I'm
1/25 Crow...yeah...that's it...no...wait...I'm...
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Who do you think you are? Liz Warren?
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That one ad makes me want a Thompson!
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Saw an ad years ago where the Thompson was described as the perfect ranch gun. Ideal for taking out wolves and coyotes , maybe grizzly.
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50 rounds of .45 should slow down a grizzly pretty well.
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They represent the generally accepted views of the time, and have to be seen in the context.
It is characteristic that they're not selling the gun to the lady who is supposed to use it, but her husband. The ads were likely placed accordingly.
I would think that even back then there were plenty of farmers wives and ranching women out West who would have shoved the pistol up some private part of the marketing genius who came up with these characterizations. But these were "city pistols" and in polite middle class society this was perfectly appropriate.
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I honestly feel that in many ways, women were tougher in the past...
Seriously, hear me out here, in decades past, women had significantly less rights, were expected to behave a certain way with those who didn't often times ostracized/slandered, they typically didn't have jobs, let alone careers, and lived as housewives who were essentially responsible for the entire upkeep of the household. They had to cook, clean, take care of the children, etc, leaving them with very little time to themselves. In many ways, the average housewife worked harder tham her husband, because it was essentially a full-time occupation with no days off.
Think about it, I mean, really stop and consider all of the work involved, not to mention the responsibilities involved.
I also strongly suspect that the timid, subservient, mild-mannered temperament of the stereotypical early to mid 1900s housewive was by and large an act that was perpetuated by the sensibilities of the time. In other words, they acted in a manner which society deemed acceptable for a proper, respectable, and most importantly attractive woman to behave.
I don't know this for certain because I wasn't alive back then, and by the time I was even old enough to think of such things, the sexual revolution had long since run its course, the career woman was already a long since established thing even if it was uncommon, and gender roles of the past were often criticized even if many of them were still common practice. However, even watching old movies, it is clear that the image of the stereotypical house wife wasn't quite as accurate as some folks assert it was, and the role of the housewife seemed to be treated much more reverently as well, with housewives often portrayed as being more level-headed than their husbands, and their responsibilities being beyond what men were capable of fulfilling.
Granted that cinema shouldn't be taken as representative of reality, but it still often times reflects the idealized sensibilities of the time, so even if they weren't realistic, they still reflected society's image of contemporary sensibilities.
That all being said, call me old-fashioned, but I kind of prefer the sort of accentuated femininity of the classic American housewife. Although I honestly prefer strong, capable, intelligent, free-thinking women, modern women strike me as distinctively un-ladylike, and I honestly feel that the housewives of the past were stronger, more capable, and more disciplined women because they were able to thrive in their environment so well in spite of having lesser freedom overall. Women these days seem to lack the poise of women of the past, speaking of strength while displaying a distinctive lack of willpower, self-control, or patience. That's just my own personal opinion, based on my own personal experiences, and your mileage may vary, so please refrain from bombarding me with indignant responses as if I were personally speaking of women that you know and love. I won't lie, the life I've lived is peculiar in the way that I seem to have been exposed to a lot more bad people than good, ergo my opinions on society are decidedly negative, as is my view of people in general. I know that there are people who don't act like that, but unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of meeting them.
Seriously, hear me out here, in decades past, women had significantly less rights, were expected to behave a certain way with those who didn't often times ostracized/slandered, they typically didn't have jobs, let alone careers, and lived as housewives who were essentially responsible for the entire upkeep of the household. They had to cook, clean, take care of the children, etc, leaving them with very little time to themselves. In many ways, the average housewife worked harder tham her husband, because it was essentially a full-time occupation with no days off.
Think about it, I mean, really stop and consider all of the work involved, not to mention the responsibilities involved.
I also strongly suspect that the timid, subservient, mild-mannered temperament of the stereotypical early to mid 1900s housewive was by and large an act that was perpetuated by the sensibilities of the time. In other words, they acted in a manner which society deemed acceptable for a proper, respectable, and most importantly attractive woman to behave.
I don't know this for certain because I wasn't alive back then, and by the time I was even old enough to think of such things, the sexual revolution had long since run its course, the career woman was already a long since established thing even if it was uncommon, and gender roles of the past were often criticized even if many of them were still common practice. However, even watching old movies, it is clear that the image of the stereotypical house wife wasn't quite as accurate as some folks assert it was, and the role of the housewife seemed to be treated much more reverently as well, with housewives often portrayed as being more level-headed than their husbands, and their responsibilities being beyond what men were capable of fulfilling.
Granted that cinema shouldn't be taken as representative of reality, but it still often times reflects the idealized sensibilities of the time, so even if they weren't realistic, they still reflected society's image of contemporary sensibilities.
That all being said, call me old-fashioned, but I kind of prefer the sort of accentuated femininity of the classic American housewife. Although I honestly prefer strong, capable, intelligent, free-thinking women, modern women strike me as distinctively un-ladylike, and I honestly feel that the housewives of the past were stronger, more capable, and more disciplined women because they were able to thrive in their environment so well in spite of having lesser freedom overall. Women these days seem to lack the poise of women of the past, speaking of strength while displaying a distinctive lack of willpower, self-control, or patience. That's just my own personal opinion, based on my own personal experiences, and your mileage may vary, so please refrain from bombarding me with indignant responses as if I were personally speaking of women that you know and love. I won't lie, the life I've lived is peculiar in the way that I seem to have been exposed to a lot more bad people than good, ergo my opinions on society are decidedly negative, as is my view of people in general. I know that there are people who don't act like that, but unfortunately I haven't had the pleasure of meeting them.
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Who can forget the Ruger ad with the guy holding a 44 carbine standing next to that gorilla??? Or that S&W ad showing a burger shaped like a revolver with the caption "Thick is good in a burger but not in a revolver" Classics for sure
I have read and re-read your above post and it makes no sense to me. Please explain in 20 words of less.
Or do I assume you just don't like women?
Seems to me that he's saying he just doesn't like people in general.
I work with a guy like that. My co-worker pretty much hates everybody. Must suck to have such a negative view of the world...
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Women of the past were stronger than anyone gives them credit for, and I prefer them to modern women.
+1. My father was born in a town so small (in North Central Texas) that it isn't even on most maps anymore. When he was a kid in the '30's his mother killed a rattlesnake that made it into her kitchen. Grandma was tough but I sure felt safe around her when I was a kid.
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CAJUNLAWYER
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Maybe so but one thing modern women have going for them is that they are still alive and useful for many purposes.
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Hey, I'm very offended by that Savage rifle ad. It just so happens that I'm 1/4 Cherokee...no...wait...I'm 1/8 Apache...no...wait a minute...I'm 1/16 Comanche...no, wait...I'm
1/25 Crow...yeah...that's it...no...wait...I'm...
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Now we know Elizabeth Warren's user name.
