When will it end? Ammo shortage

[llowry61]

The current situation may be the thing that finally kills off almost all the shooting sports.
That would make a lot of people very happy.
Expect one or more ammunition companies to go out of business, further aggravating the shortages.

How could that happen with the high-demand for ammo, you ask?
The answer is de-monetization of the ammo companies.
When banks and insurance companies are pressured with threats of retaliation by their peers for not being “ woke “ enough, ammo companies’ insurance and lines of operating capital will start to dry up. Credit card companies are preparing to ban firearm and ammo transactions using their cards as well.
Hard to run a business of any size without those two thing
And we all thought the government would be the entity that killed off our sport and rights.

Look up Operation Choke Point - this type of activity is illegal and was completely reversed. A regulator informally advising a banking institution that they will create regulatory burdens if you do business with a legal business just because they do not like it, is nothing short of blackmail. The lawsuits that ensued, which the defendants settled knowing the plaintiffs would win, makes the chances of a repeat unlikely. While politically driven, this is unlikely to be tested again in the future. It is as gross an abuse / misuse of and weaponization of governmental power as could ever be imagined.

 

[Bumpus13]

It will not pass this time.
Expect some increased a availability in metallic ammo, but not at anywhere near the “ old “ prices.
Shotgun shells may come back some, except for slugs and buckshot, or anything that would be seen as potential anti-personnel loads.
I am operating under the assumption that what ammo I have now is all I’m ever going to be able to get for the rest of my life, which means what I have is too precious of a commodity to wantonly burn up in extended target practice sessions. I have not fired a metallic cartridge in over 8 months, and don’t plan on shooting any at all for the next year, except to test fire a .380 Bodyguard when I get it back from S & W after warranty work.
I have switched over to shooting black powder guns exclusively.
They will do anything I need to do with a gun, and I have a good supply of powder, lead, bullet molds, flints, caps, and wad punches. Also primers for my all-brass shotgun shells.

Yawn.

Of course it will. But, hey, don’t let my rationality get in the way of your panic spreading. How’s that armadillo hat coming along?

 

[armadillo]

I guess I'm lucky to live between 2 big Academy stores that are only 6 miles apart. From 2013-16, I spent many mornings standing in line for 2 hours or more to buy ammo. I met a lot of friendly people doing that.

I had enough ammo on hand, so I didn't get involved in the madness this time - until LAST WEEK. It seems that my Academy stores have been getting A LOT OF AMMO. There are always 30-40 people in line when the doors open, but everything is orderly and there is always a little left over for the people at the end of the line.

So, after waiting in line for 2-3 hours on 4 different days and going to both stores each day, I bought 400 rounds EACH of 9mm, 45 and 223 (lead core) and 150 rounds of 380. Even at Academy prices (and a 2 box limit), it is getting expensive - so I will slow down for a while.

 

[ddixie884]

Mid-Way has their the cheapest Lee press in stock at $54.99 with free shipping. That is about what a 100 rnd box of target .38spl costs if you can find one...........

 

[Chino74]

Getting into reloading. Got everything but need more primers, more powder. Cause I am not paying 96 bucks for a 100 round box of .45 hardball. I actually have plenty of ammo, made it a habit of picking up a box or 2 every time I went to my LGS for several years now. Now I think my money is better spent making my own.

 

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[uncleted327]

The cheapest C type Lee press is available at Mid-Way with free shipping and .38spl dies are in stock too. If I was having trouble finding ammo, I'd be trying to remedy that problem........

Who cares if presses and dies are available when powder and primers aren't...

 

[CH4]

My LGS received a shipment of Remington .223 today. I didn’t ask what the price is but Big Green is coming to the shelves.

I just picked up a box of 20 gauge. Looks like new packaging.

 

[p8riot]

I haven't bought a single round in 5 years. Between my stash and my handloading (yes I have components too), I will be set for years to come.

 

[357-RevolverGuy]

My guess is shortage will end in 2028.

Everyone needs to get the vaccine.
Only way to end it.

Honestly I don't think it will ever end. It's always going to be around. The virus is mutating and there will be a shot every year to keep up with it, just like the flu. Even if everyone gets the vaccine it does not mean they'll not get Covid. There's no cure for the common cold either and we've learn to live with it.

 

[BSA1]

Arg! I had to throw a live 22 L.R. cartridge away yesterday.
I have started shooting a Ruger Wrangler that I brought in 2020 PC about every week or two. Yesterday at the range I had a Remington cartridge that would only go halfway into the chamber. Close inspection showed part of the brass case mouth had folded backwards when it was manufactured. I tried removing the offending piece of brass but the case was to far out of spec.

I felt like I was throwing away gold coin.

Shooting my Wrangler is slowing how many rounds I use at the range. Four or five cylinders full is enough for a session. With it’s small grip and hard to see front sight this little gun is a bit of a challenge to shoot accurately. It is going to take a lot of regular range trips for me to master shooting it well. By only shooting 30 rounds a session a 500 round bulk pack will last four 16 trips which will keep me occupied for next 4 or 5 months.

 

[smithra_66]

Getting into reloading. Got everything but need more primers, more powder. Cause I am not paying 96 bucks for a 100 round box of .45 hardball. I actually have plenty of ammo, made it a habit of picking up a box or 2 every time I went to my LGS for several years now. Now I think my money is better spent making my own.

No doubt...you're on the right track for sure!

 

[smithra_66]

Who cares if presses and dies are available when powder and primers aren't...

They are available.

 

[mnshutterbug]

My guess is shortage will end in 2028.


Honestly I don't think it will ever end. It's always going to be around. The virus is mutating and there will be a shot every year to keep up with it, just like the flu. Even if everyone gets the vaccine it does not mean they'll not get Covid. There's no cure for the common cold either and we've learn to live with it.

Even if everyone gets vaccinated, the spread of Covid will not totally end but will get to the to the point where we will learn to live with it just like the common cold. That will in essence end the problems we've been dealing with for more than a year.

 

[ddixie884]

If anyone is in a real bind for .38spl. Buffalo bore has their standard pressure 158gr swchp in stock. The price is high as usual. They have not raised them to panic levels. This round will clock 850fps from a 2" barrel and faster from longer barrels. Most factory rnds don't do much over 800fps from a 2" and if you check the Lucky Gunner gel tests you will see that it takes at least 850fps for full expansion..........

 

[Muss Muggins]

Even if everyone gets vaccinated, the spread of Covid will not totally end but will get to the to the point where we will learn to live with it just like the common cold. That will in essence end the problems we've been dealing with for more than a year.

Guessing you've missed the plethora of people who have contracted the virus after receiving both shots . . .

 

[SchemaEnigma]

Guessing you've missed the plethora of people who have contracted the virus after receiving both shots . . .

plethora: abundance; great quantity

Yeah. I've missed that.

 

[HEADKNOCKER]

Local Gun Store had plenty of ammo today..
ALL Where $2ea bullet, Didn't matter what caliber or brand..
All where overpriced..
I'll have to live off my stash for quite a while it looks like..
I will not pay $2 a bullet unless it's a 50cal then it's $5ea

 

[BE Mike]

Guessing you've missed the plethora of people who have contracted the virus after receiving both shots . . .

I don't think that this is a plethora: "In mid-April, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 5,800 breakthrough infections to date among the millions of Americans who have been fully vaccinated."

 

[rockquarry]

I don't think that this is a plethora: "In mid-April, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported 5,800 breakthrough infections to date among the millions of Americans who have been fully vaccinated."

If that's an accurate figure, it represents an incredibly low percentage. Perhaps those that claim otherwise aren't advocates of the vaccine.